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Comments on news posted 2010-07-30 09:25:12: As CNET explores, Netflix has been doing rather well financially -- which resulted in Hollywood very quickly begging them for more money. ..

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Z80A
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Mark Cuban is a dummy

He is a media whore Paris Hilton wannabe who really needs to do the world a favor and drink a gallon of Drain-O.

SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA

Steaming service stinks

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.


cableties
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It's true...

I was questioning a Netflix rep about how impressed I was with their title turnaround (obviously NOT new titles) and how their selection from 12 months ago has increased significantly with older titles.
I was shocked to learn from her on how postage is their biggest cost and that streaming is actually preferred.
She even mentioned how successful they were with innovating licensing deals with manufacturers on integrating Netflix streaming features.

I just wish studios would wake up and embrace netflix...or buy it!

Network Guy
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Yes, I've noticed more good older titles are showing up for streaming, which I'm happy about.

Not crazy about new releases. If I wanna see a new release that bad, I'll take a walk to nearest Blockbuster. Those still exist, for now.


herb77

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Fort Myers, FL

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reply to SixSpeed

Re: Steaming service stinks

Sorry but you're wrong. I find new things to watch everyday.
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FFH5
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reply to SixSpeed
said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
And much of what they offer is available On-Demand for free from the cable companies.
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herb77

join:2005-02-23
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reply to Network Guy

Re: It's true...

I'm with you, I don't care a hill of beans about new releases. 1997 was the last time I went to the movies.
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aztecnology
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reply to SixSpeed

Re: Steaming service stinks

said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible.
The streaming works flawlessly...

The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.
Sounds like your a curmudgeon. Hollywood has their hands tied on what they can offer...

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.

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SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA

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said by aztecnology:

said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible.
The streaming works flawlessly...

The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.
Sounds like your a curmudgeon. Hollywood has their hands tied on what they can offer...

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
I don't care why the content is garbage, I just know that it is. I supposed if you are 60+ years old, you will find the title selections great.

Also, its a heck of a wait to get anything current. After having Iron Man at the top of my queue for 2+ months, I just got it yesterday.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to SixSpeed
There is so much streaming content on Netflix that appeals to me I can't watch it all. More comes each week that I add to the queue than what I can watch. Seems those who only like generic mainstream titles don't like Netflix. There's an awesome (in the true sense of the word) amount of quality/quirky stuff.. indie, foreign and obscure. What you can't get streaming can be simply sent in mail.

Hope to see them continue titles like Memento, Pan's Labyrinth, Dragon Tattoo, Jackie Brown and Wild China. Sounds like they'll be focusing on TV content in the next year but I hope to see more Discovery/NatGeo type stuff rather than mindless network tv junk.

Have dumped cable for Netflix/Hulu/Playon and am finding it meets my needs.

Great way to check daily Netflix content, sort by new...

»instantwatcher.com


Jason Levine
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reply to SixSpeed
Well, I'm only 34 and I find their streaming selection prety good. It could be better but that's more the fault of the studios than Netflix. Netflix is making deals as quick as they can and would toss everything on streaming if they could.

Meanwhile, my 2 sons (age 6 and 3) love Netflix streaming. There are tons of kids shows on streaming (current like Dora and older like Rugrats). I hand the oldest the Roku remote and they go to town watching show after show.

I guess it all boils down to your taste vs what Netflix is currently allowed to stream.

As far as waiting to get DVDs, I've never run into that problem. After I send a DVD back, I typically have a new one in 3 days. I think I've only had one time when the item on the top of my queue wasn't available. Then again, most of the stuff I have on my queue isn't new release material. YMMV.
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Jason Levine
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Re: It's true...

And even when it comes to new releases, I don't need to watch them immediately. I'll add them to my queue and they can sit there under the hundred other titles until they become available or until I get around to them.

Meanwhile, the "delay new release" deals open up more titles for streaming which is what I really like.
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fuzzholio

join:2002-04-30
Shingle Springs, CA
reply to xenophon

Re: Steaming service stinks

yeah i dumped cable about nine months ago to cut costs from being laid off ...saved me $75 a month...i built a HTPC for my 52" HD TV and stream everything from the net...and with Netflix and Hulu and the likes added by networks offering episodes of there current shows after they air... i have more control of what i want to watch and when to watch...no DVR rental fee...slightly less commercials (though they are repetitious)... my average bandwidth usage is between 140-165 gb per month.... my wife and i like this model that we probably will not go back to any form of cable/sat again...


Uncle Paul

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reply to Jason Levine
I'm 41 and find the Steaming selection while large mostly B movies or old titles. Typically anything you'd go to a B&M store and find dust on. If you really like old, foreign, obscure, or indie stuff then they have plenty of content for you. If you're looking for stuff typically released in the last year... not so much.

My 5yo daughter finds the kids selections 'ok'.

It's good if you want to watch old TV series though.

fuzzholio

join:2002-04-30
Shingle Springs, CA
reply to Network Guy

Re: It's true...

said by Network Guy:

Not crazy about new releases. If I wanna see a new release that bad, I'll take a walk to nearest Blockbuster. Those still exist, for now.


where i live..Cameron Park CA... the only dvd rental place we had was Hollywood Video...they closed that or just about closed(they were selling off all ther dvd's at 40-60 percent off...now our town is stuck trying to rent movies from 3 redboxes, 1 dvd2nite and 1dvdplay kiosk....these little boxes are great but in no way can they supply our entire town with movies...


bionicRod
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reply to Jason Levine
There are certain new releases I like to see fairly soon; I'm as vulnerable to advertising as the next guy I guess, and if there's one I really want to see during a Friday night at home I'll go to the local Hastings and grab it. Other than that I put a dvd in the mail Monday and have #1 on my queue Wednesday, almost all newer titles.

And the streaming is great. Anyone who says they can't find anything to watch on streaming is just not trying hard enough, or is only interested in brand new AAA releases. I've seen so many great films and tv series I may not otherwise have seen it's well worth the price of admission.

iansltx

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reply to xenophon

Re: Steaming service stinks

Never had payTV. Been Hulu or Netflix for me, and it works just fine. When Netflix doesn't have some content...well, that's the studios' faults, not Netflix's.

As for bandwidth costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they're paying a penny or two per gigabyte nowadays, since they aren't buying from Akamai. Which means a full-on movie takes a nickel, maybe two, to stream. Which is actually pretty cool compared to mailing a DVD...


espaeth
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Netflix is a different model

Internet delivered content has limitations on the number of simultaneous viewers that can be served, so while Netflix style delivery works good for serving up things like Dexter Season 1 episodes to a couple million folks who want to watch on their own time, it doesn't make sense (technically or financially) for things like live broadcasts of American Idol.

Video delivery isn't going to go 100% Internet distribution. There are cases that make clear sense for IP-based delivery, but there are a large number of cases for which IP delivery would represent a massive increase to the cost of delivery -- for those cases traditional broadcast methods will still continue to exist.


milnoc

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Interesting...

It's interesting that the studios want to keep their 30 day window to protect DVD sales, as pointless as that may be. That just gives video pirates 30 days to rip a DVD and distribute it on-line for free!
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Thatgeekinit

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reply to espaeth

Re: Netflix is a different model

I gave up cable tv and kept internet-only back in may. I have not lacked for things to watch on Netflix, Youtube or Hulu and dozens of other video sites plus DVD rentals.

I pay $59.95 for a premium cable modem speed tier (12/2 I think, who knows they change it so often and don't disclose well) and $18 for Netflix. That is opposed to $129 for my cable mode + cable tv bill.

Now I can afford alcohol and snacks to go with my tv watching.

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espaeth
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It all depends on what you want to get out of your TV viewing. While it clearly doesn't apply to you (based on your described services), the sports broadcasting market is a massive entity that is unable to be adequately served by Internet distribution. The numbers simply don't work for the quantity of simultaneous realtime viewers and the bitrate required for HD video delivery.

Thatgeekinit

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reply to milnoc

Re: Interesting...

I can understand why the studios want that window as it will encourage people who frequently buy new DVD's at $20 new release prices not to "wait for it on Netflix"

They just want to protect their dying business model which is based on charging people many times for the same content in different formats.

First they charge you $10/ticket in the theatre. Then $10 to PPV in a hotel. Then $5 to PPV on cable/dish. Then they charge you $20 to buy it on DVD. Then they will want to charge you $30 to buy it on Blue-Ray or $1-2 for a netflix- rental after your DVD gets scratched or you want to just see if Blue-Ray is worth it.
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88615298
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reply to FFH5

Re: Steaming service stinks

said by FFH5:

said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
And much of what they offer is available On-Demand for free from the cable companies.
you get cable for free?

You know you can watch all your network shows for FREE and in HD without having to pay for cable. It's called an antenna.


Diablitoo

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reply to xenophon
When i saw u post dragon tattoo (men who hate women) Swedish title , i had to comment . That movie was off the chart it was mind boggling; If i did not have a netflix account i wouldnt have found it since they try to find your likes and recommend movies according to your preferences. I think the service is pretty good and will get better as long as Hollywood plays along. Also, advancement in technology to provide more bandwidth they will be able to some day provide Blue-ray quality movies without connection problems. I see hollywood like old people, set on their ways, never wanting to change. Hopefully little by little they will see that this is profitable business and what people really want. I cant remember the last time i bought a DVD or CD. So if they want to change consumer behavior tough luck cause i'm never going back, i love netflix streaming service.


Jovi
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reply to SixSpeed
said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.


Streaming quality is superb on my end and always find something to watch.
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msmisfit

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Lawrenceville, GA
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reply to Thatgeekinit

Re: Interesting...

Just got a Roku box, and Netflix streaming for me has been terrific... 4 bars and no interruptions. Flawless operation as someone else said.

Of course, I'm the type that can wait for movies I want to see, and have more than I can watch with all the British TV comedy and mystery series available for streaming. [MI-5, Inspector Morse, etc.].

If that $10 mo. was a problem, I could drop a cable digital tier that I have now [to see one channel out of 30 junk ones]. Plus free on-demand on my cable service is worthless as well.


w0g
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reply to SixSpeed

Re: Steaming service stinks

It works pretty well and the movie selection is pretty good. It doesn't have all the newest 'blockbusters' but if that's all you watch then you're not watching much... my only complaint is the compression is too great and bitrate far too low for my taste. I'd like to see them kick out a 5-8Mbps+ stream with high quality audio at least that rivals iTunes 128kbps per channel, but preferrably lossless or original Dolby Digital (same bitrates or better). Audio hardly uses any bandwidth anymore and the muffled detail-less audio is a drab to hear.
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Kearnstd
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reply to espaeth

Re: Netflix is a different model

sports also looses another thing with internet delivery. absolute control of the blackout restriction. with TV the only method one could use is a big old C-Band dish(and odds are the sports people would sue people for that claiming its illegal).
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Kearnstd
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Re: Mark Cuban is a dummy

Entertainment goons dislike new systems because they are far too customer friendly. look how long it took music to even start to latch onto internet delivery and even then at 99c a track they still wanted more and more money.
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espaeth
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Re: Netflix is a different model

said by Kearnstd:

sports also looses another thing with internet delivery.
They actually work that out in the ESPN Live engine that drives mlb.tv / NHL GameCenter Live by usiing geoIP database information. Even for online access you get blocked out based on where you are at the time. For example, when I traveled to Nashville I was able to watch a Minnesota Wild game that would normally be blocked out when accessing the site from home, but I couldn't watch a Nashville Predators game taking place the same night.

The problem is that even though the NeuLion codec brought some reasonable improvements to quality that make it quite watchable on an 11" netbook screen, it looks absolutely horrific if hooked up to a 55" HDTV.