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Comments on news posted 2010-07-30 09:25:12: As CNET explores, Netflix has been doing rather well financially -- which resulted in Hollywood very quickly begging them for more money. ..


Z80A
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Mark Cuban is a dummy

He is a media whore Paris Hilton wannabe who really needs to do the world a favor and drink a gallon of Drain-O.
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Re: Mark Cuban is a dummy

Entertainment goons dislike new systems because they are far too customer friendly. look how long it took music to even start to latch onto internet delivery and even then at 99c a track they still wanted more and more money.
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Ulmo

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SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA

Steaming service stinks

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.

herb77

join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL

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Re: Steaming service stinks

Sorry but you're wrong. I find new things to watch everyday.
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Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
Aptos, CA

Re: Steaming service stinks

In my experience, Netflix streaming is light on content, but not too close to empty. It's way better than Cable's original VOD.

As the model grows, Netflix either will or will not be able to license reasonable amounts of content. That's the big Q.

At this point, I don't care if Netflix dies and croaks. (1) they don't allow the streaming to be tracked for alternate users of the account, littering my main account person profile with someone else's tastes, and Netflix hasn't offered a tool to move their preferences from one person to another because of this horrible situation. (2) Netflix doesn't allow you to delete another person, so when you change the name, their old preferences influence the new person. (3) They don't take PayPal or prepayment (including money orders). If someone replaces them that does all this better, I'd be happy.

I lost a bank account due to Netflix, because they were the only company that auto-debited my account without my specific each-time approval. I didn't have this problem with any other recipient, because all the other recipients didn't auto-deduct: I had to specify each amount to go to them and the time.

So, if Netflix's business model withers and fades, good riddance. The online streaming is a no brainer. Their implementation of it technically is quite good. Their administration of it sucks raw sewer.

FFH
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said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
And much of what they offer is available On-Demand for free from the cable companies.
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88615298
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Re: Steaming service stinks

said by FFH:

said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
And much of what they offer is available On-Demand for free from the cable companies.
you get cable for free?

You know you can watch all your network shows for FREE and in HD without having to pay for cable. It's called an antenna.

aztecnology
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said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible.
The streaming works flawlessly...

The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.
Sounds like your a curmudgeon. Hollywood has their hands tied on what they can offer...

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.

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SixSpeed

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USA

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Re: Steaming service stinks

said by aztecnology:

said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible.
The streaming works flawlessly...

The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.
Sounds like your a curmudgeon. Hollywood has their hands tied on what they can offer...

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
I don't care why the content is garbage, I just know that it is. I supposed if you are 60+ years old, you will find the title selections great.

Also, its a heck of a wait to get anything current. After having Iron Man at the top of my queue for 2+ months, I just got it yesterday.

Jason Levine
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Re: Steaming service stinks

Well, I'm only 34 and I find their streaming selection prety good. It could be better but that's more the fault of the studios than Netflix. Netflix is making deals as quick as they can and would toss everything on streaming if they could.

Meanwhile, my 2 sons (age 6 and 3) love Netflix streaming. There are tons of kids shows on streaming (current like Dora and older like Rugrats). I hand the oldest the Roku remote and they go to town watching show after show.

I guess it all boils down to your taste vs what Netflix is currently allowed to stream.

As far as waiting to get DVDs, I've never run into that problem. After I send a DVD back, I typically have a new one in 3 days. I think I've only had one time when the item on the top of my queue wasn't available. Then again, most of the stuff I have on my queue isn't new release material. YMMV.
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Uncle Paul

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Re: Steaming service stinks

I'm 41 and find the Steaming selection while large mostly B movies or old titles. Typically anything you'd go to a B&M store and find dust on. If you really like old, foreign, obscure, or indie stuff then they have plenty of content for you. If you're looking for stuff typically released in the last year... not so much.

My 5yo daughter finds the kids selections 'ok'.

It's good if you want to watch old TV series though.

scott2020

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Inspector Gadget FTW!
My kids love it, and brings back memories for me!

Jason Levine
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Re: Steaming service stinks

Inspector Gadget was one of the first titles they found and burned through. My son still pretends that he has "gadgets" like Inspector Gadget has.
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Eek2121

join:2002-10-12
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You are clearly a troll, stuff like 2012, (»www.netflix.com/WiMovie/2012/70108779) etc. are available. There are over 100 movies on netflix streaming that were released within the past 3 years.

Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
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Re: Steaming service stinks

said by Eek2121:

You are clearly a troll, stuff like 2012, (»www.netflix.com/WiMovie/2012/70108779) etc. are available. There are over 100 movies on netflix streaming that were released within the past 3 years.
How many movies are on netflix streaming that did over $50 million in the box office and were released to DVD in the last six months?

Streaming on Tivo is good quality (sometimes has issues properly detecting bandwidth), PS3 is also good. Sony Bluray player stutters and is poor quality. All systems are on Cat 6 structured wiring on a managed GB switch to Comcast 20 mb service.

The bottom line still depends on what kind of titles you're looking for in the streaming catalog. If you like more obscure or older movies than Netflix has you covered in spades. If you're looking for titles that did reasonably well in the theaters and was released to DVD in the last 6-8 months then the selection if relatively bare.
Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
Aptos, CA
Yes, correct. Netflix streaming technically is good. The titles available are bad because of Hollywood, not Netflix, AFAIK.

I reiterate that Netflix sucks at user profiling and billing. Baby boomers are dying, and depending on them for their sole bread and butter is a failed business model except for Wall Street fast-backers.

If Hollywood never lets Netflix get good content, then that'll be a nail in Netflix's coffin, as far as I'm concerned. And, because Netflix sucks at the customer side of its business (besides the streaming technically), I'd be glad for Hollywood to kill Netflix off. However, that would still leave the current void of a good streamer. Hulu might replace Netflix.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
There is so much streaming content on Netflix that appeals to me I can't watch it all. More comes each week that I add to the queue than what I can watch. Seems those who only like generic mainstream titles don't like Netflix. There's an awesome (in the true sense of the word) amount of quality/quirky stuff.. indie, foreign and obscure. What you can't get streaming can be simply sent in mail.

Hope to see them continue titles like Memento, Pan's Labyrinth, Dragon Tattoo, Jackie Brown and Wild China. Sounds like they'll be focusing on TV content in the next year but I hope to see more Discovery/NatGeo type stuff rather than mindless network tv junk.

Have dumped cable for Netflix/Hulu/Playon and am finding it meets my needs.

Great way to check daily Netflix content, sort by new...

»instantwatcher.com
fuzzholio

join:2002-04-30
Shingle Springs, CA

Re: Steaming service stinks

yeah i dumped cable about nine months ago to cut costs from being laid off ...saved me $75 a month...i built a HTPC for my 52" HD TV and stream everything from the net...and with Netflix and Hulu and the likes added by networks offering episodes of there current shows after they air... i have more control of what i want to watch and when to watch...no DVR rental fee...slightly less commercials (though they are repetitious)... my average bandwidth usage is between 140-165 gb per month.... my wife and i like this model that we probably will not go back to any form of cable/sat again...
iansltx

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Never had payTV. Been Hulu or Netflix for me, and it works just fine. When Netflix doesn't have some content...well, that's the studios' faults, not Netflix's.

As for bandwidth costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they're paying a penny or two per gigabyte nowadays, since they aren't buying from Akamai. Which means a full-on movie takes a nickel, maybe two, to stream. Which is actually pretty cool compared to mailing a DVD...
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Re: Steaming service stinks

said by iansltx:

Never had payTV. Been Hulu or Netflix for me, and it works just fine. When Netflix doesn't have some content...well, that's the studios' faults, not Netflix's.

As for bandwidth costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they're paying a penny or two per gigabyte nowadays, since they aren't buying from Akamai. Which means a full-on movie takes a nickel, maybe two, to stream. Which is actually pretty cool compared to mailing a DVD...
Actually they are still using akamai, but akamai is a "last choice" provider since it's expensive. The other CDN's are eating up the primary "cheap" bits.

Akamai is pitched as "quality" bits.

Funny part is akamai has enough cash in the bank to buy both netflix and 4 of the big CDN's. and not even break a sweat.
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iansltx

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Re: Steaming service stinks

Are you sure they're buying from Akamai? I heard they were getting their bits from LimeLight and Level3.

Billy994

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Re: Steaming service stinks

said by iansltx:

Are you sure they're buying from Akamai? I heard they were getting their bits from LimeLight and Level3.
They dropped Level3 and now use Akamai and Limelight. Their contract with Akamai states they must give Akamai at least 51% of their business.

This is 100% fact there have been press releases and tons of information from completely reliable sources about it. If you still care use Google to easily find the proof.

Diablitoo

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When i saw u post dragon tattoo (men who hate women) Swedish title , i had to comment . That movie was off the chart it was mind boggling; If i did not have a netflix account i wouldnt have found it since they try to find your likes and recommend movies according to your preferences. I think the service is pretty good and will get better as long as Hollywood plays along. Also, advancement in technology to provide more bandwidth they will be able to some day provide Blue-ray quality movies without connection problems. I see hollywood like old people, set on their ways, never wanting to change. Hopefully little by little they will see that this is profitable business and what people really want. I cant remember the last time i bought a DVD or CD. So if they want to change consumer behavior tough luck cause i'm never going back, i love netflix streaming service.

odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL

Re: Steaming service stinks

Yes Dragon Tatto was awesome but when I told my cousin about it he said it was on redbox around the same time
BosstonesOwn

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Re: Steaming service stinks

The girl with the dragon tatoo ? Good movie.

First seen it thanks to netflix.

Jovi
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said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.


Streaming quality is superb on my end and always find something to watch.
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w0g
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It works pretty well and the movie selection is pretty good. It doesn't have all the newest 'blockbusters' but if that's all you watch then you're not watching much... my only complaint is the compression is too great and bitrate far too low for my taste. I'd like to see them kick out a 5-8Mbps+ stream with high quality audio at least that rivals iTunes 128kbps per channel, but preferrably lossless or original Dolby Digital (same bitrates or better). Audio hardly uses any bandwidth anymore and the muffled detail-less audio is a drab to hear.
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aurgathor

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I guess the service must be a bit overheated if it's "steaming" ,
but as far as I, and my 5 years old concern, the streaming selection is not bad at all, especially since it doesn't cost anything extra.

Would it be better if they had more titles available? Of course! But that doesn't mean it's bad.
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45612019

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said by SixSpeed:

Netflix streaming is horrible. The titles are old and after having the service for a few weeks, there is noting to watch.

The bandwidth costs didn't go up because their streaming content is garbage.
This guy is right. Netflix streaming is garbage. There are numerous issues with it.

-Not detecting connection speed properly half the time and giving you a low quality stream. This means you have to go through a process of "play video, did Netflix detect it for HD? God damn it, of course they didn't! Back out, start video again. "Presented in HD" well duh, you retards! Why not just give me an option to skip your stupid connection test every time?"

-Low quality. I was unimpressed with the quality; it's obviously not on par with Blu-ray so for any title on Blu-ray Netflix streaming is worthless. It's not even as good as iTunes Store purchased 720p releases, so it's worthless for anything on iTunes... even HDTV channel captures are usually better quality.

Further issues with Netflix's quality: half their content that should be in HD is only in standard definition. I regularly scroll through the catalog of Instant Watch titles and see loads of material I know was shot in HD and no HD icon next to it.
xenophon

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Re: Steaming service stinks

I have a 60" panel streaming Netflix via PS3. Even SD content is passable. For about $12/month and BR disc checkout once a week, I have no complaints. Better than paying $3-$6 each on pay per view.

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nonsense

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Sorry, Netflix streaming is great. I use a Samsung Blu Ray with integrated streaming (includes Pandora and YouTube) connected via Wi-Fi plus over the air digital and a little very cool HD DVR to time shift my wife's soap operas and record PBS and the ocassional domestic show. Netflix has great "instant play" titles, especially foreign films and domestic TV shows. Quality is getting better every year. Netflix and Google fight evil everyday. Lets hear it for the monopoly busters. Freedom!!!
NyNexit

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THAAAAANK YOU.... although its a good start. and Kudos to Netflix for shaking things up
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Uncle Paul

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Anytime I've set up a merchant to auto bill they always auto charge at the end of the billing cycle... that's why it's called auto billing. If you gave them a debit card, I'd fully expect them to take the money at the end of the bank cycle. I wouldn't expect them to ask permission. Your complaint here makes no sense.
Goldman

join:2002-06-21
Maumelle, AR
I think the streaming service is pretty good. Th only problem I have had is with my ATT service slowing or becoming unstable.

The movie selection for streaming isn't bad, but I have to agree that newer titles need to be added faster for most people to get any value out of it.

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cableties
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It's true...

I was questioning a Netflix rep about how impressed I was with their title turnaround (obviously NOT new titles) and how their selection from 12 months ago has increased significantly with older titles.
I was shocked to learn from her on how postage is their biggest cost and that streaming is actually preferred.
She even mentioned how successful they were with innovating licensing deals with manufacturers on integrating Netflix streaming features.

I just wish studios would wake up and embrace netflix...or buy it!

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espaeth
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Netflix is a different model

Internet delivered content has limitations on the number of simultaneous viewers that can be served, so while Netflix style delivery works good for serving up things like Dexter Season 1 episodes to a couple million folks who want to watch on their own time, it doesn't make sense (technically or financially) for things like live broadcasts of American Idol.

Video delivery isn't going to go 100% Internet distribution. There are cases that make clear sense for IP-based delivery, but there are a large number of cases for which IP delivery would represent a massive increase to the cost of delivery -- for those cases traditional broadcast methods will still continue to exist.

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milnoc

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Interesting...

It's interesting that the studios want to keep their 30 day window to protect DVD sales, as pointless as that may be. That just gives video pirates 30 days to rip a DVD and distribute it on-line for free!
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Bill Neilson
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I am very critical of all services that I own

but I love Netflix and use it often

Well worth the money as long as they keep updating their lists

thundar

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Scottsdale, AZ

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Cheap for what you get!

I have been paying for DIRECTV since 2003 and yes they keep adding more HD the same out the door price has gone up from $54/m to over $85 and add in the extra charges for "leasing" or as they say access fee for boxes that I bought on eBay and now charge for multiroom... I have just about had it with all the nickel and dimeing. So for $8.99 I gave Netflix at try and I have been very happy with what they offer for such a cheap price. Yes everyone says they don't have the newest movies and such, but as everyone here knows you can find that stuff pretty easy from the net. I think this should be a wakeup call to all the greedy TV and execs that want to charge people to watch shows that are free OTA but want $ a day later. As others say Netflix is a good model at a good price I hope they keep proving the man wrong. Side note I pretty much only do streaming so don't know much about waits for DVDs (you can get Blurays for $2 more a month) but I will say that the HD video stream looks acceptable but having sound in HD with only 2 channels and not 5.1 is not acceptable. They up the video bitrate and 5.1 sound for people that have the Bandwidth and then you have a real winner.

kg1

@bresnan.net

netflix

People are always going to find something to complain about. Netflix is amazing, thing about it, even if there is only one tv series season you would like to watch, its $9 month compared to the $40 or to buy. Blockbuster I think does a $10 for a week thing now for TV series but thats only one season! I'v watched the Sarah Conner Cronicles ( so mad there isn't a third season) all of Prison Break, Veronica Mars and many others. Anything new I want to see I head on over to Red Box. . . Netflix is adding so so so much all the time and not charging us anymore for it. Thank you Netflix for not being greedy. And yeah in a few weeks all the seasons of Family Guy will be available instantly!

clickwir

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what about Linux?

If bandwidth isn't an issue, then bring on the better quality. I know some machines cannot play decent quality content (Wii) but other systems do and should be allowed to.

So I have a Wii and a bunch of Kubuntu boxes. If I want to watch something, it's blocky and looks like RealPlayer from 1998... or I'm told to install Windows so they can be sure I cannot copy the movie. Pfft. Just let me watch it. They put more restrictions and bullshit in the way of actual paying members than anything.