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Comments on news posted 2010-08-12 15:40:18: Google continues to work on damage control over their deal arrangement telecom policy lambada with Verizon. ..

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Murdoc
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join:2009-02-08
Manitowoc, WI
reply to MSauk

Re: US of CA

said by MSauk:

United States of Corporate America.

Welcome to the club
You mean the "United corporate police states of america"?

Bubba Rock

join:2010-04-21
reply to TCub

Re: Google Voice Search..

said by TCub:

I sent a letter to Google demanding they stop this crap.. Letters have been sent to the FCC and other important political figures to get this crap straightened out.
wish I had your enthusiasm and optimism toward such things!!

Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

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reply to Jim Kirk

Re: leave

Well...actually

The largest corporations and interests have heavy influence on our government, in order to get special benefits to themselves or to lobby against the competition.

Most of the time when government interferes, the end result is usually either more power or more benefits to the most powerful few, and usually disruptive or detrimental interference for the rest.

It's a vicious cycle.

Ever hear of the dead peasants insurance scam?

Companies like DOW chemical and Walmart have been secretly taking out life insurance policies on their own employees, paying the premium and collecting all the money when they die. (I wonder why they hire a lot of elderly folks.. hmm)

That's where government regulation SHOULD come into play, is enforcing anti-fraud laws.


LairdDrambeg

join:2002-08-30
Denville, NJ
reply to omegabit

You seem to be forgetting that the destruction of the common carrier model by the Powell FCC's fraud upon the nation was what reduced competition and eliminated innovative offerings and services from agile small ISPs who were able to respond to users requests and needs. Now we're reduced to dealing with a couple of huge bureaucracies who seem to not even be capable of internal communication to resolve customer problems

Now we're told that the FCC does not have the power to undo the Powell blunder? This is madness. Take a look at the nations around the world which are leaving the US in a cloud of dust and note that what works elsewhere, and encourages vibrant competition, is "common carrier" rules. Or are you of the opinion that because the "incumbents" own poles, wires, rights of way and metro-cable plant that they are to be endowed with a monopoly on Internet Provisioning and Services?



funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

You need to keep government out if a company is going to make a profit.
Yawn.


FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5

said by funchords:

said by FFH:

You need to keep government out if a company is going to make a profit.
Yawn.
Pithy comment. Is that the best you can do?
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MrHappy316
Wish I had my tank
Premium
join:2003-01-02
Monterey, CA

Don't forget Sen. Demint

Our good Senator has the new google complex here in Goose Creek, SC so don't forget he is bought and paid for this year in the elections, but again our only challenger is Alvin Green.


saiga6360

join:2010-08-09
Jersey City, NJ
reply to FFH

Re: leave

Good enough for me. Thanks!


saiga6360

join:2010-08-09
Jersey City, NJ
reply to Jim Kirk

Re: Google Voice Search..

I'd like to see them go "oh well, it was just a suggestion" shrug and leave. Then I will applaud.

But I get a feeling that's not gonna happen.



thender
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Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1

1 recommendation

reply to morbo

Re: So

said by morbo:
And yes, Google was good and better than the rest. Go back and read. This change is a significant move away from that path. If it makes you feel smarter than everyone else for not believing Google was different then go nuts.

I'm going nuts.

For years I got called a loony for implying Google was less than perfect. It all went downhill when we collectively agreed bots could scan our personal email in exchange for a superior free email service. It's not the end of the world, but it was the first step down a slippery slope to where we are now.

I use an android phone and Google calendar everyday. It's impossible to avoid them, their free apps are better than paid alternatives. I gave up a long time ago arguing against using their products, because they are made for our generation.

The generation of piracy. The generation that expects everything cost no money.

Google is capitalizing on that. Their phone OS beats everything else and look at its cost. Their calendar system is better than what I could pay for as far as portable device integration & functionality, $50/yr for big business & free to myself. Look at their email service in 2007 vs. yahoo mail.

Look at all the shit they offer for free.

It's not free, people. It's not free.
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mackey
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join:2007-08-20
kudos:12

regulation bad, anti-consumer good!

I like this part:

we have agreed to a proposal that allows this market to remain free from regulation for now
They make it sound like regulation would be a BAD thing... Then again, it WOULD be bad for them (but good for consumers!)

/mackey


morbo
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reply to thender

Re: So

said by thender:

It's impossible to avoid them, their free apps are better than paid alternatives. ...

...

It's not free, people. It's not free.
It is possible to avoid them but people like their products and believe that the tradeoff -- a loss of privacy -- is worth it. People that don't think it's worth it are still free to use other, usually inferior products.


cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
HarperLand
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Lawyers

Google retard writes:

MYTH: This proposal will allow broadband providers to “cannibalize” the public Internet.

FACT: Another aspect of the joint proposal would allow broadband providers to offer certain specialized services to customers, services which are not part of the Internet. So, for example, broadband providers could offer a special gaming channel, or a more secure banking service, or a home health monitoring capability – so long as such offerings are separate and apart from the public Internet
Last I checked retard, this is already available. Why should I have to pay my ISP for a service I already get for free.

Special gaming channel = Steam, steam is a free channel. The games if course are not.

I already have an online secure banking service, guess what its free.

When I get old and decrepit, 911 on a cellphone on speed dial is better. Im already paying for 911 fees.


funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6
reply to FFH

Re: leave

I put as much thought into my response as you put into your original comment.



FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to tiger72

Re: 5 groups protesting at Google friday

said by tiger72:

yeah i keep getting emails from credo. They no doubt purchased my name from MoveOn.

What irony.
Only 50 people showed up to protest.
»www.dailyfinance.com/story/prote···9593288/
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TahoeBlue

join:2010-08-12

Fuzzy semantics of net neutrality

Preferential treatment by ISPs for back-scratching partners, and outright discrimination against competitors, are of course totally improper and should be illegal.

There is a another aspect to the fervor behind net neutrality which is perhaps not so clear, related to how it takes on a life of its own as a perhaps too simplistic black-and-white issue via fuzzy interpretations of what else it means beyond that.

»tahoeblue.wordpress.com/2010/08/···trality/

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