 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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1 edit | I have to Give New York City Credit At least New York did not do what San Fransisco did with the purposed free city wide system Google wanted to install in San Fransisco The city council bargained like a bunch of legendary rug merchants. Google was going to install and maintain the system for free, and access was to be free but the City Council acted like Google owed the city for being a successful business with all kinds of demands that caused Google to drop the whole thing. New York at least got a Wifi system that might be expanded, who knows but it is a start. I personally think .99 cents a day is a bargain. Good show New York.
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| sold at too low a price for the type of banwidth that could be consumed in a PARK of all places.. it should've been free, unlimited for what the cable companies got in return!
nyc is selling out to businesses at TOO LOW A PRICE! in return the people of nyc got screwed. |
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 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | 99 cents a day.. has the taxpaying New Yorker all shook up?
Is he also concerned that taxi cabs make money off taxpayer funded streets?
TW And cablevision are FOR PROFIT Companies..not charity organizations. The point of what they're doing is that they're putting up front 10 million dollars so that people can have a service in the parks if they want it and if they choose to use it.
That doesn't and shouldn't make it be a free service.
The fact that they're going to spend the 10 million and allow everyone a free 30 mins a month on the service is well intended I think and targets the casual user who might want to check their email ..maybe get directions if they're a traveler or whatever. It's not about providing someone a 24/7 connection to replace their home connection. And, if that's what they want..99 cents a day..priced PER DAY mind you..is also a very fair price to ask for such a considerable upfront investment.
It's great that NY will have this. And the price and terms are fair. |
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| Profit in the parks There are hot dog / soda carts in the parks. I assume the vendors are there to make a profit. We pay money to get a Coke; why should WiFi be any different?
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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Cheyenne, WY Reviews:
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Re: sold at too low a price said by tmc8080: the people of NYC got screwed. From where I sit in the High Plains of Wyoming it would seem to me the People of New York City are getting screwed on a daily basis by the City anyway. The tax system in New York City to my point of view is so Byzantine it is running people and business out of the city. With this WiFi system a person and sit back with their iPad and plan their vacation, perhaps to Wyoming where they can sit with their backs to a log pole pine taking in the wide open vistas, and relax.
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 NickPurveyor of common sensePremium,VIP,MVM
join:2000-10-29
Smithtown, NY | Probably free for subscribers For what it's worth, Cablevision already offers FREE WiFi across parts of Long Island. The SSIDs on the WiFi stations also advertize Comcast's Xfinity and Time Warner SSIDs with the intent being that if you are a Cablevision/Comcast/Time Warner subscriber you roam for free on the other MSOs network.
What the article is probably not saying is that service will be free for subscribers of Time Warner and Cablevision (And probably Comcast) but people without subscriptions will have to pony up a dollar for a day. For people who travel internationally, a dollar for a day's worth of internet access is very cheap.
And the terms are still being worked out on this....
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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1 edit | Great for Tourists This would be a great thing for Tourists. To what ever device they have they could download maps, restaurant locations, museums, etc. It just adds one more information source.
I keep thinking of what San Fransisco could have had. Google was going to have a push advertising system, it would have kept track of your location and then offer up ad's for businesses in your intimidate area. You see an interesting restaurant across the street and you refer to your smart phone or Touch and look for that eatery and pull up their menu. I remember the Businesses in the City were absolutely clamoring for it. Alas San Fransisco was more i interested in Blackberry's for Bums then helping out their tax base.
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Re: Profit in the parks said by Bobcat79:There are hot dog / soda carts in the parks. I assume the vendors are there to make a profit. We pay money to get a Coke; why should WiFi be any different? I think you missed the point.
Those hotdog sellers have to pay for inventory. To provide wifi access, all an ISP has to do is setup some APs and run an internet connection to them. After that, the service runs itself. You only need to send people out for maintenance. ISP's do NOT pay per amount of data, they pay for the speed of data (assuming they don't have a backbone of some kind). Which I'm sure when the smoke clears, they will have some sort of cap for that .99c simply because they want to continue the illusion that they pay per byte.
So, some of the costs would be:
+ Equipment (one time)
+ Maintenance
+ Cost of the speed of bandwidth/month
Which, to an ISP the last item is pennies compared to the amount of profit they can get from this deal. |
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eggboardPremium
join:2000-11-18
Seattle, WA | Cable firms pay 5% of gross revenue NYCwireless is forgetting that the cable firms are already paying 5% of gross revenue as a franchise fee. This is a side deal over and above that. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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Re: 99 cents a day.. I'm curious about whether TWC/CV/Comcast customers get free park WiFi. If so, the deal's even sweeter. Folks with FiOS pay 99 cents per day, people with cable get the service for free. The $10 million is NOT taxpayer money so I see no problem with this. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to Nick
Re: Probably free for subscribers Y'know, if OptimumWifi also had the 99 cent per day access fee...well, that would be really useful since I hear it's all over the place in NYC, but is currently limited to OOL/TW/Comcast users (no FiOS). |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to eggboard
Re: Cable firms pay 5% of gross revenue No kidding. So if you're paying $50 per month for internet $2.50 of that goes to NYC gov't. Pretty sweet deal for them (the gov't). |
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NickPurveyor of common sensePremium,VIP,MVM
join:2000-10-29
Smithtown, NY | reply to iansltx
Re: Probably free for subscribers I don't understand what your point is. Since it's a free service to subscribers, opening it up as a commercial enterprise MAY result in an insufficient infrastructure being in place and not being able to handle the load. Much like AT&T complains about iPhone users.
There are other business purposes to have WiFi available for B2B applications. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Non-Profit Tantrums NYCWireless appears to be upset that they didn't get to dine at the table and suck up more taxpayer funds to provide [more of] their so-called "free" service.
(It ain't free. Contributions to their 501(c)(3) deprive the Treasury of tax revenues.) |
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1 edit | reply to iansltx
Re: Cable firms pay 5% of gross revenue Cable modem service or internet service in general is not subject to franchise fees. This is based on a FCC ruling. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Transmaster
Re: I have to Give New York City Credit True - $0.99/day is a bargain, assuming there's no upfront user cost.
$0.99/day would work out to ~30/month... hmmm not much different than a hard line, or a 'cheap' 3G connection. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to Nick
Re: Probably free for subscribers Not opening it up for free...opening it up for pay. More people would get on the network, sure, however only those folks who don't have cable already can't access it anyway... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to fifty nine
Re: Cable firms pay 5% of gross revenue Ah k. |
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Re: Profit in the parks said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by Bobcat79:There are hot dog / soda carts in the parks. I assume the vendors are there to make a profit. We pay money to get a Coke; why should WiFi be any different? I think you missed the point. Those hotdog sellers have to pay for inventory. lolwht...?
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Re: 99 cents a day.. For that price, you can get a cell phone data plan and have access while moving and in places other than the parks.
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