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Re: Profit in the parks Neither hot dogs nor bandwidth is free. |
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:ISP's do NOT pay per amount of data, they pay for the speed of data (assuming they don't have a backbone of some kind). I thought they only paid for the amount of data, not necessarily the speed. |
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chimera
join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC | reply to Bobcat79
Those vendors pay the city for the right to sell in the park. TW isn't being charged for this by the city. |
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NyNexit
join:2009-11-01
Huntington, NY | harsh reality Why do so many people insist on everything being free on the internet? If you don't want to pay ONE DOLLAR, then conduct your internet related business at home before you leave for the park. DONE, end of story.
Nothing is free, and it shouldn't be. If the cable companies are willing to light up 32 parks, they should at-least recoup their equipment,labor and up-keep investment.
If you don't want to pay a dollar to surf the web in the park on a nice day, then pay $4 for a latte, sit at a tiny wobbly table and get online that way, or go to the library. Better yet get a JOB.
The funny thing is, I'll bet the same people who complain about paying a dollar for Wi-Fi, are the same people with overpriced phones and data plans.
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 cabanaDepartment of AdjustmentsAssistant
join:2000-07-07
New York, NY
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Park - novel idea - how about go there to get away from wireless sigh ... I like to be as connected as the next person. It is annoying enough when I visit the park to have to seek out places where I am not sitting next to "she who must spill all of her gripes at the top of her lungs" cellphone girl - or "he who must yell at subordinate for not pulling his weight" cellphone man - or "she who must yell at her boyfriend for fill in the blank" cellphone woman.
While you do see laptops now - most people seem to get - parks should be a haven to get away a bit. With wireless I guess that means even more people will be toting all sorts of this and that on their "picnic" blanket.
I look forward to seeing someone perched in a tree with the laptop up there 
Yes ... I know this is not the point of the conversation ... and Yes ... I know "bizness" ... is business ... but I am annoyed anyway  |
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1 edit | hmm I know everybody is PRO FIOS around here and bashes the cablecompanies every chance they get but how come this part was left out?
"In addition to WiFi, the cable companies agreed to provide more than $30 million in new upgrades to the city's communications infrastructure and to increase the number of Public, Educational and Government (PEG) Channels available on their systems to 17 from nine.
Time Warner also agreed to set up 40 community broadband access centers in local neighborhoods, while Cablevision agreed to work with the Department of Education to establish media centers in certain public schools.
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Timewarner and cablevision as part of the deal will help upgrade The cities communications infrastructure for the city government, aand education . |
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ernstk
join:2001-05-08
Middle Village, NY | Fee waived for TW/CV subscribers nycwireless.net has the Cable Franchise Media Briefing and it says there on page one (right after the 99 cent bit):
"Fee waived entirely for TW/CV broadband subscribers"
Klaus Ernst NYC |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to majortom1029
Re: hmm Since thats the typical municipal extortion of cable companies. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
2 edits | reply to Bobcat79
Re: Profit in the parks said by Bobcat79:Neither hot dogs nor bandwidth is free. I'm sure the ISP's can squeeze at least 1Mbps from their Tb/sec backbone.
..not to mention most ISPs get a discount for getting a huge pipe. What frustrates me is some charge by the byte when they're getting charged by the speed. |
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1 edit | reply to chimera
And the hot dog vendors don't give away three free hot dogs per person per month.
Apples to oranges. |
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 jslikThat just happenedPremium
join:2006-03-17 | reply to patcat88
Re: hmm Do you want government run more like a business or not? Shouldn't any property owner at least try to maximize the amount of compensation for use of their property, especially when approached by a multi-billion dollar corporation?
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| said by jslik:Do you want government run more like a business or not? Shouldn't any property owner at least try to maximize the amount of compensation for use of their property, especially when approached by a multi-billion dollar corporation? The Government does not own utility easements. Those of us who own real property do.
Therefore you as a private land owner cannot negotiate with utility companies to provide service. It has to be done through the franchising authority. So essentially the Gov't decides how your property is used and you have little to no choice in the matter. Get it? |
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Re: harsh reality said by NyNexit: Why do so many people insist on everything being free on the internet? If you don't want to pay ONE DOLLAR, then conduct your internet related business at home before you leave for the park. DONE, end of story. Nothing is free, and it shouldn't be. If the cable companies are willing to light up 32 parks, they should at-least recoup their equipment,labor and up-keep investment. If you don't want to pay a dollar to surf the web in the park on a nice day, then pay $4 for a latte, sit at a tiny wobbly table and get online that way, or go to the library. Better yet get a JOB. The funny thing is, I'll bet the same people who complain about paying a dollar for Wi-Fi, are the same people with overpriced phones and data plans. -Sorry had to get that out. My point earlier wasn't about getting something for free.. it's about the exchange of goods and services in kind. Cablevision and Time Warner haver a LOCK on lots of NON-FIOS deployed regions of NYC for 10 YEARS in exchange for what amounts to chicken feed... no doubt NYC gets to charge some money too as part of the cable-tv bill per "HEAD" in addition, but could have gotten unlimited used in the parks instead of limited usage. Deals of these kinds are called CROSS SUBSIDY whereby neither party has to spend oodles of money to promote one another. The upkeep of WIFI cable-modem hotspots isn't really that expensive once the initial investments are in place. It's usually a bank of about 4-20 wifi endabled cablemodems on 4-10 channels depending upon geogrpahy covered. Nevertheless the wifi deployed is the CHEAPER "G" variety as well so costs are coming down between $20 - $40 per cablemodem/wifi-g combo unit compared with $60 - $300 upto 5 years ago in volumes.
If we look around.. Verizon isn't exactly falling all over themsleves to DOLE-OUT free wifi across NYC any time soon to cannibalize the nascent WIRELESS BROADBAND they charge for.
The notion of giving anything away for free anymore means it must not be good or has this conservative leaning negative connotation of socialism attached to it. Let's face it, Bloomberg woudln't allow that kind of socialism to rear it's head in NYC any time soon-- there always had to be a catch.
We're entering a new cycle in which the big chill in the political climate moves on to invade/infect the ECONOMIC CLIMATE. Started about 2007ish and gearing up for a "Heck of a 2011" |
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | reply to Nick
Re: Probably free for subscribers Confirmed over at CED magazine. Free to subscribers.
»www.cedmagazine.com/News-Time-Wa···510.aspx
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jslikThat just happenedPremium
join:2006-03-17
1 edit | reply to fifty nine
Re: hmm What are you talking about? You own the street in front of your house?
Easement: An easement is the right to use the real property of another without possessing it. Easements are helpful for providing pathways across two or more pieces of property.
Public right of way: Public right of way is not restricted by land ownership and grants travel access to all.
And yes, you do negotiate with the provider for service on your property via the franchised service in the ROW.
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| google free wifi hasn't google had free wifi in central park for years? |
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 heat84Bit Torrent Apologist
join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL
1 edit | MAC address Spoofing? I'm sure you could do that and get as much free usage as you want. Though I guess you'd have to do it every 10 minutes which could get annoying. |
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WHT
join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5 | reply to Bobcat79
Re: Profit in the parks said by Bobcat79:Neither hot dogs nor bandwidth is free. Nice play on "Animals and proles are free." Thumbs up. |
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said by Bobcat79:Neither hot dogs nor bandwidth is free. Did I say it was? No.
Please reread my post. |
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| No thanks! I prefer real free wifi.
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