morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000
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morbo
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2010-Oct-19 11:09 am
Goodbye HuluIt's sad that the entertainment industry's hope for widespread market penetration that they control will now fail.
In the meantime, cutting the cord is looking more and more tempting. |
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cableties
Premium Member
2010-Oct-19 11:12 am
He who owns.....the content, controls the content! Or licenses it ...
Right? |
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hmmI find it funny that companies who are supposed to be about profit do things to make as little profit as possible. Since hulu makes money from ads arent they supposed to make it so as many people as possible see the ads?
If I were the sponsors i would drop my ads from hulu since they are doing this. |
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88615298 (banned) join:2004-07-28 West Tenness |
88615298 (banned)
Member
2010-Oct-19 11:15 am
offered consumers content they were already getting for freeMore hyperbole.
Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. |
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xirian Premium Member join:2003-01-26 Beacon, NY |
xirian
Premium Member
2010-Oct-19 11:19 am
said by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Everything that says its available in HD will only give me a max of 480p, I dont even see a 720p choice in the settings with hulu plus. |
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Already cut the cord a while agoIt is infuriating that their is no real alternative, I do not want nor need 20 Spanish channels 15 ESPN's when all I want is maybe sci-fi, comedy central and maybe a handful of others. I do not want to pay for the rest of the crap, and their is still no IPTV competition due to monopolistic practices. Well I know some may not approve, but until they want to enable a REAL solution instead of just trying to rip off everyone, my torrents will do just fine. |
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Joint VentureHulu's a joint venture between Fox, NBC and ABC. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HuluIts hard to see how hulu would be the "disrupter" described in the article when its parent companies are the broadcasters that the article's author targets... I would prefer everything open and available to all, but that just isn't the way its going to be... |
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88615298 (banned) join:2004-07-28 West Tenness |
to xirian
Re: offered consumers content they were already getting for freesaid by xirian:said by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Everything that says its available in HD will only give me a max of 480p, I dont even see a 720p choice in the settings with hulu plus. Sounds like an issue with you. Also it's still in beta. |
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FFH5 Premium Member join:2002-03-03 Tavistock NJ |
to cableties
Re: He who owns...said by cableties:..the content, controls the content! Or licenses it ... Right? Here are the current owners: NBC Universal, News Corp., The Walt Disney Company, Providence Equity Partners Since News Corp is an owner of Hulu, is it surprising that they sided with Fox over Cablevision? |
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88615298 (banned) join:2004-07-28 West Tenness |
to wavesound
Re: Joint VentureIt seems everyone wants all their cable channels on the internet and avialable for nothing which is hardly realistic. You have to make chocies. Either pay the high prices the cable/sat companies charge or cancell and live with more limited choices. All these networks are going to go with the delivery method that makes them the best ROI. If offering stuff online ADDS to the bottom line, sure they'll offer it. If online becomes more profitable than the current methods of distribution you bet that's where they'll go to. |
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xirian Premium Member join:2003-01-26 Beacon, NY |
to 88615298
Re: offered consumers content they were already getting for freesaid by 88615298:said by xirian:said by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Everything that says its available in HD will only give me a max of 480p, I dont even see a 720p choice in the settings with hulu plus. Sounds like an issue with you. Also it's still in beta. Guess it was. I had to clear my cache to fix it... kind of a weird issue. |
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DisruptionI don't see where Hulu ever said that they wanted to shift viewers away from Cable. |
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Gbcue Premium Member join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA
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to 88615298
Re: offered consumers content they were already getting for freesaid by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Piracy can give me all that for free. |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
dvd536
Premium Member
2010-Oct-19 11:45 am
I don't get itpeople are seeing your ads on google TV, WHY do you even care what device they're using to view it? |
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SSX4lifeHello World Premium Member join:2004-02-13 1 edit |
to cableties
Re: He who owns...said by cableties:..the content, controls the content! Or licenses it ... Right? Correct But he who kills the golden goose has no right to lobby / cheat/ complain / "buy laws" / etc. as an excuse for not continuing to innovate. Drive your customers away... smart move. p.s. hulu is free though boxee with no issues. |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
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to Gbcue
Re: offered consumers content they were already getting for freesaid by Gbcue:said by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Piracy can give me all that for free. And NO ADS to boot! |
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ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
to 88615298
said by 88615298:said by xirian:said by 88615298:More hyperbole. Can you get 720P on regular Hulu? no. Can you get full seasons on regular Hulu? No. So for someone that is looking for HD and more than just the 5 current episodes Hulu plus cold be quite value. Everything that says its available in HD will only give me a max of 480p, I dont even see a 720p choice in the settings with hulu plus. Sounds like an issue with you. Also it's still in beta. So we get to pay extra for a product in beta? Sounds like a bargain. |
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axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC |
axus
Member
2010-Oct-19 12:05 pm
Hulu can do what they wantI'm not paying them $$$, they could shut their doors tomorrow and I wouldn't feel slighted. I'm grateful for all the TV shows I've caught up on Really, Hulu hasn't prevented me from getting cable, I made that choice before I got Hulu. They HAVE prevented me from getting a Tivo or making my own DVR. If Hulu goes away, I'll probably get a DVR as a present. |
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innoman- Premium Member join:2002-05-07 Seattle, WA 1 edit |
to dvd536
Re: offered consumers content they were already getting for freeHELLO tvtorrents.com! All the shows I want, usually with in minutes of being aired and no commercials! note: I am all out of invites for the next couple of months. |
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tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA |
to dvd536
Re: I don't get it I think it's about getting google to agre to a liecnse/repackage agreement, just like HULU has with some other outlets that use HULU content. HULU is desperate to find a new revenue source to support new&improved content to try and be competitive with other (googTV, netflix, etc.) online sources. The orginal "1- 15 second commerial" (later 2 or more) isn't paying the bills anymore. I beta tested HULU in early 2007 (before it had the hulu name) and it ws originally concived as a pay-per-view move channel, later when the download code system proved unworkable first run movies were dropped and the TV/RERUN/old movie with few ads model emerged, which worked for a few years until everyone jumped on the download bandwagon. as far as ad insertion they still do a better job (ad placed were the tv show was designed to have an ad) than some of the network video sites (Comedy central is particularly annoying placing their ads, sometimes in mid sentence or clipping out part of the show for space. ) |
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markofmayhemWhy not now? Premium Member join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA |
to fifty nine
Re: Disruptionsaid by fifty nine:I don't see where Hulu ever said that they wanted to shift viewers away from Cable. Agree. Other misquotes in the article that are 100% false, inaccurate, and should be fixed by Karl Bode : said by Karl Bode : And this is before Hulu is acquired by Comcast
Hulu can not be "acquired by Comcast", NBCU and Newscorp hold equal share (32%), Disney holds 28%, and some money tank "Providence Equity Partners" holds 8%. This is just false, incorrect, and should be corrected information in the article. Hulu ownership numbers released on Comcast filing to acquire NBCUsaid by Karl Bode : The cable and broadcast industry is absolutely begging for disruption by broadband video
What?! Who, which cable/sat/telco company is begging for disruption??? Which broadcaster or affiliate is begging for disruption??? No Karl, we are begging for disruption, not them... |
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KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
Kearnstd
Premium Member
2010-Oct-19 12:30 pm
The entertainment industry supports "Piracy"First off I put piracy in quotes because downloading TV shows is honestly a gray area to begin with.
But really? these big entertainment firms bitch and cry about people torrenting shows and then they go and take what could be a big hit for them and cut it off. They are honestly showing how poor they are at being businessmen when they cut off another possible revenue stream of eyeballs seeing ad content.
Of course nobody has ever credited the entertainment industry for being good at handling innovation ever through their entire history. Keep in mind way way back in time they went ballistic over the Player Piano, which at its time was likely seen as cool as Hulu is to us here in the 21st century. |
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innoman- Premium Member join:2002-05-07 Seattle, WA |
to majortom1029
Re: hmmso are advertisers paying per impression? I wonder how it works. Well i am curious I guess... if I really wanted to know, I could probably research it ... |
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markofmayhemWhy not now? Premium Member join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA |
to majortom1029
It depends, as always, the devil is in the details...
As long as Hulu is an alternative to "didn't see it" instead of "didn't watch/record it on my local affiliate when it aired", then yes, the advertising is an increase in revenue. If you watch Hulu INSTEAD of the local affiliate, then Hulu is a loss in revenue. For now, we'll see how much longer these networks use the affiliate distribution model... |
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"Hulu is dead to me. You hear that? Dead."Some people here in the family have the opinion that Hulu just got "educated" by those IP lawyers working for the RIAA and the MPAA. Something to the effect of "you cannot steal what is being given away for free", so stop giving it away for free." It makes our position look ludicrous and self serving. |
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markofmayhemWhy not now? Premium Member join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA |
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Re: I don't get itBecause if Hulu direct from the TV off the retail shelf with no computer knowledge what-so-ever crowd stops watching affiliates, ad revenue will plummet and the networks will be forced to change and adapt quickly. Hulu can kill affiliates if available to the masses (it currently is NOT available to the masses, as most people don't "want to watch TV on the little computer screen" and have no idea how to get a computer hooked up to a TV). Hulu is supposed to be a supplement to syndication revenue, not a replacement to broadcast revenue. When Hulu threatens the current distribution model, it gets knocked down. |
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to wavesound
Re: Joint VentureThe thing is on cablevision using their vod I get the episodes of abc and nbc shows so my only reason for using hulu is fox's shows. |
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Rock and a Hard PlaceWhile as an end user I see many things that Hulu could do, but I also know what kind of bloodsuckers are controlling the content so all I can say is that Hulu is stuck and a pretty bad place.
Hulu is trying to make TV easier to watch for consumers.
Content providers want to preserve cable while trying to reach out using new technology. But are unwilling to RISK anything are are being controlling like an abusive spouse.
Hulu has to do what it can to please the content providers or it's got nothing to offer customers. They want to get on TVs, but they can't and keep receiving content. |
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axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC |
to Kearnstd
Re: The entertainment industry supports "Piracy"Downloading TV shows is unauthorized distribution. The broadcasters (and Hulu) have a license to send out the shows for free. |
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Hulu's owned by NBC, right?Hulu's owned by NBC. right? To me, that explains it all-NBC works hard to make things fail. As an example, look at the great ratings they have (not!). |
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