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Comments on news posted 2010-10-22 10:03:08: This week a new report from bandwidth management equipment vendor Sandvine indicated that Netflix streaming video now accounts for more than 20 percent of downstream traffic during peak times in the U.S. ..

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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

PS3/Wii effect

The recent PS3/Wii app install launch and with '1080'/5.1 probably is the issue and will likely subside once everyone goes back to normal viewing. I know I was checking it out, watching much more Netflix than normal. They also released a bunch of new titles at the time (I checked out a good amount of new NatGeo shows). I noticed rebuffering issues the first evening of the launch, but is a non-issue the last couple nights now.



YogiYahooeys

join:2004-08-17
Evansville, IN

Not the first time

Interestingly enough, this was the third major downtime for Netflix and their streaming services in the past couple weeks. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the PS3 and WII udpates at all. They've just had a really unstable system recently. They really need to invest in some backup servers if they are really going to be primarily a streaming company...



Rob
In Deo speramus.
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:3

Switched to Amazon..

I've stopped watching DVDs and cancelled my Netflix subscription. I've found that Amazon's unbox is sufficient for my needs.


Badonkadonk
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5

A la carte streaming?

Do they off that, or is it all subscription based? If the former, I would ocasionally use the service.


itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Hitch to MS = FAIL

Crashes are what they get for using Silverlight on probably a Windows platform. Windows is not up to the task for heavy server loads.


bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY
Reviews:
·TowerStream

You realize Silverlight is an end station plugin? They could be running the video servers on *nix. I know of no requirement for Silverlight to be on the server.

I've found Silverlight to be better than Flash - when i use Windows Media Center it seems to use a flash plugin - it behaves better on my browser on the same machine.

Then again my Roku (old model N100) spanks my PC in pretty much every application of Netflix.



newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1

Netflix streaming is certainly in my future

As soon as my Roku arrives and I get it setup and working, I'll be canceling my Starz & Showtime premium channels from DirecTV. The $8.95 per month price is a hell-of-a-lot cheaper than the $25.00 a month I'm paying now.


chimera

join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC
reply to itguy05

Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Netflix has been rock solid for running silverlight. They ran into some backend issues yesterday, but that has nothing to do with their choice of media player anymore than having a Verizon DNS server going down has anything to do with Safari.



Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

It was definitely....

A fail yesterday. So slow. But when it's running, it's friggin awesome!


nickfie

join:1999-11-23
Wynnewood, PA

1 recommendation

Netflix Runs on Amazon Infrastructure

Interesting paper regarding Netflix migration to Amazon's cloud infrastructure:

»docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=s···Zm&pli=1



Michail
Premium
join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
kudos:1
reply to itguy05

Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Silverlight is a thin client platform, a rather excellent one at that.



vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA

Streaming only

It looks like Netflix's website is advertising $7.99/mo for streaming only... I thought this was only being offered in Canada at this time.



vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA
reply to Badonkadonk

Re: A la carte streaming?

No a la carte, subscription only, but at $7.99 a month it's very reasonable.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

1 recommendation

20% of ALL traffic?

"more than 20 percent of downstream traffic during peak time"

Maybe 20 percent of all traffic passing through sandvine devices.



FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to nickfie

Re: Netflix Runs on Amazon Infrastructure

said by nickfie:

Interesting paper regarding Netflix migration to Amazon's cloud infrastructure:

»docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=s···Zm&pli=1
And based on using Amazon's cloud based datacenters, users who are experiencing network issues should make sure they are using their ISPs DNS servers. Using other DNS servers can result in sub-optimal routing because the Amazon cloud may choose a datacenter not close to your location.
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Badonkadonk
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5
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reply to vpoko

Re: A la carte streaming?

said by vpoko:

No a la carte, subscription only, but at $7.99 a month it's very reasonable.
It's not bad, but we wouldn't really need it except for maybe a movie every month or two at the most. So, I'd rather pay $2.99 per shot or so.


tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
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join:2001-05-18
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
reply to vpoko

Re: Streaming only

said by vpoko:

It looks like Netflix's website is advertising $7.99/mo for streaming only... I thought this was only being offered in Canada at this time.
»Netflix Says Streaming Only Option May Hit U.S. This Year


vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA

said by tacoma:

said by vpoko:

It looks like Netflix's website is advertising $7.99/mo for streaming only... I thought this was only being offered in Canada at this time.
»Netflix Says Streaming Only Option May Hit U.S. This Year
If that's the case, then it may have happened already.


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
reply to Badonkadonk

Re: A la carte streaming?

It's subscription based. I pay 11.99 a mo for unlimited streaming and 1 blu-ray out at a time using snail mail.
They have a pretty good selection that you can choose from to queue up the instant or dvd/blu-ray.

It's bettter than a la cart` with no commercials. You can just watch what you want to. Hrmm ultra a la cart`
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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
James Creek, PA
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to itguy05

Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL

nope, it can only handle events like the Olympics or other major sporting events where there could be a million people watching things, but when its streaming movies oh it cant handle the load..... please...... you have no idea how the windows streaming platform works... it's MUCH more advanced then a lot of the alternatives out there and silverlight, it just renders the output, the server itself doesnt run silverlight... it just responds to what the variable bitrate stream server is sending it



vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA
reply to Badonkadonk

Re: A la carte streaming?

Amazon is pretty decent for that, or if you have an Xbox, the selection on Xbox Live isn't terrible. It'd be nice if Netflix had the option, too, though.


Badonkadonk
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5

Thanks. I'll have to check those options out.



Anorexorcist
Premium
join:2005-08-21
Stamford, CT
reply to itguy05

Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL

LOL, itguy05 = fail. Time to brush up on IT basics.


itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

1 edit

1 recommendation

reply to neufuse

The only reason the Olympics worked was because the whole shebang was run by Microsoft. We never saw how many servers handled the load, how they were configured or anything like that.

And I believe the NFL, MLB, and other sporting agencies use Flash or other forms to distribute their content. NBC is in bed with MS (Hence MSNBC) so it was only natural MS would make it work.

MS uses that same thing to sell Sharepoint - we run our website on it. Yet most Sharepoint installations are hugely cumbersome, insecure, and a mess to use.

Fact is Microsoft stuff has no place when reliability matters. You end up with way too many servers, way too many variables and less security.

Oh, and BTW: I know how it all works, thanks. I'm sure there is lots of MS code in the delivery of Netflix streaming. From the DRM to the authorization, etc. I bet it was a failure of this MS code that is the source of the issues.



bionicRod
Funkier than a mohair disco ball.
Premium
join:2009-07-06
united state
kudos:2
reply to newview

Re: Netflix streaming is certainly in my future

I'm having the same problem... Netflix and my premium channels are doubling up on content and I'm essentially paying for the opportunity to watch the same movies on two platforms. I just don't know which one to cancel. I like the original series on HBO/Starz, but I also like the tv selection from Netflix that aren't around anymore...decisions decisions.


EZway

join:2008-10-25
Fort Collins, CO
reply to battleop

Re: 20% of ALL traffic?

welll, sandvine's last results claims over 200 ISP in over 80 countries representing 100's of millions of broadband subscribers...likely a representative sample.



Michail
Premium
join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
kudos:1
reply to itguy05

Re: Hitch to MS = FAIL

Sharepoint is a different product line made and managed by different departments and people.

Granted, it can be difficult to setup but when architected and administered correctly it can be an amazingly flexible and customizable platform. It's not the best product for everything but it's hard to find another products that can do what it does. I also didn't care for the older version much but the product has grown.

It sounds like it was miss managed at your company. I wouldn't blame MS for that and then carry over the animosity to Netflix and Silverlight.


amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
reply to vpoko

Re: Streaming only

Saw that last night too... it's just the "Starz Play" which is not all of their available streams (less than half maybe?).



Matt3
All noise, no signal.
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12
reply to xenophon

Re: PS3/Wii effect

said by xenophon:

The recent PS3/Wii app install launch and with '1080'/5.1 probably is the issue and will likely subside once everyone goes back to normal viewing. I know I was checking it out, watching much more Netflix than normal. They also released a bunch of new titles at the time (I checked out a good amount of new NatGeo shows). I noticed rebuffering issues the first evening of the launch, but is a non-issue the last couple nights now.
I agree, the new PS3 streaming (especially the NatGeo stuff) is really nice. I've been watching 3 or 4 NatGeo programs a night.


Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
reply to Badonkadonk

Re: A la carte streaming?

They recently announced that a streaming only plan is coming soon.
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