reply to r81984
Re: Something has to give. Just wondering. How long have your worked in the ISP industry at a level where you are part of the decision making process?
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reply to Invade
Re: Shaw is clueless in Canada. I was trying to be funny. Land overage fees are price gouging.... there's no other way to understand it.
sorry, too annoyed by the bullshit the canadian ISP's are pulling :|
reply to battleop
Re: Something has to give.
said by battleop:ISPs are NOT eating the cost. You obviously do not understand canadian broadband. The lowest tier plans have a 2gb cap, the highest having a 175gb cap. In the case of UBB with wholesalers its even worse. The wholesaler pays the ISP for bandwidth, provides thier own network after the initial transit, and then the consumer gets billed by the wholesaler and the ISP for overages.
"ISPs are not eating any costs. In 99% of the US broadband ISPs are monopolies"
You clearly have absolutely no idea as to what you are taking about. Please show us where A. ISPs are not taking a hit on this and B. where 99% of broadband ISPs are monopolies.
Tell me how that is "eating the cost"
reply to dfkjsf
Re: enough is enough... revolution is the only answer.
said by dfkjsf :You're right. Canada is a strong country and it's nonsensical to think it will somehow cease to be an independent country if a little telecommunications competition is allowed.
Shaw and the other cronies (Telus/Bell/Rogers) should be slammed hard for their anti competitive behaviours of the present and past. Open the borders to foreign competition who are salivating to tear them all apart. CRTC should be disbanded and all who have had decision making powers be jailed for anti competitive and anti consumer acts.
Its time for telecommunication revolution.
reply to gruntlord6
Re: Something has to give. "You obviously do not understand canadian broadband."
Very true, seeing as how I don't work for a Canadian ISP and this statement was about "US broadband ISPs are monopolies"
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reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:Well yes, because that would be extremely stupid and greedy. It's like you're trying to think of the most greedy and horrible thing for consumers so you can say "LOOK! SEE?! They always cry no matter what they do!" Data is data and doesn't come in different "flavors". It's called the cost of doing business and these ISP's seem to be making nice profits in spite of the big bad Video Services. You can't whine about bandwidth costs and then turn around and show a healthy return. said by morbo:
ISPs can raise their prices for internet service if they believe the market will bear it. Adapt or die.
What if ISPs decided to charge more for certain types of content? Then people would be screaming "net neutrality!!!!!" and run straight to the FCC/CRTC crying about how evil corporations are putting up toll booths on the internet.
reply to fifty nine
The internet was not designed to be a series of toll roads to be abused. As for the CRTC it only works for the major ISPs so clearly you know jack about that. Considering Canadians have had to pay for most of copper based networks here it think its only fair we have some say over how we access content over it. Power should not be in the hands of companies whose own VOD services are in direct competition with all online media to prevent cord cutters and people paying less for netflix then single VOD PPV movie you can only watch once(go shaw less for more!)
Fail shaw is fail.... Your caps are a purposely a joke to prevent access free/supercheap online video unless we pay stupid overage fees and you wanna complain about competition....
reply to fifty nine
Re: Something has to give. So are you paying 1-2 dollars per gig in overage fees with a cap under 100gigs? Do you have only 2 ISPs in your area with exact same caps and overage plans? Its called collusion not capitalism... Crippling the internet just as internet based VOD is taking off in Canada has nothing to do with bandwidth problems.