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Comments on news posted 2010-12-16 17:11:18: For years during the network neutrality debate, some supporters warned of a future that involved customers paying more money if they wanted to access certain content. ..

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sapo
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The highest appeal

The freedom and unrestricted nature of the internet is why I use it. Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it. Youtube and Facebook are not that big of a deal to me.
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Duramax08
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........

Click for full size
This is why we cant have nice things.


mmay149q
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Good job Karl!!!

Glad to see that you got away with Rick Rolling anyone who clicked the link, maybe it wasn't meant as humor, but if it was I definitely enjoyed it!! XD

Matt

The Gizmo

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Then

Use encryption and a proxy server instead?


maartena
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All I want for xmas....

....is a stable connection with a friggin' IP address.

I will take care of the rest of the services I need, thank you very much.
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tman852

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typo

"is particular y absurd" 4th para, 1st sentence. Just saying.

Anyways, if the internet moved to this pricing scheme, I see ultimate failure. There's a lot of people out there unlike us who just hop on every so often to watch some youtube or what not on low speed cheap DSL. They see this lame scheme now added to their billing? Gonners. Something like this seems like it would only stick on the people who like paying an ass load of money for few services, aka ridiculous cell phone plans for example...just my opinion.
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baineschile
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why not

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?


AlexNYC

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reply to The Gizmo

Re: Then

said by The Gizmo:

Use encryption and a proxy server instead?

Exactly!


Frank
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something similar to this already happens in australia

although i'm not sure if they go as far as to do deep packet inspection. basically what the isps do is give you some ridicoulous monthly cap and then partner with (read: charge) companies so that thier content doesnt count against your cap.

example

»www.mytivo.com.au/whatistivo/unmetering/

in my opinion it is a step backward.....

what's next..... internet long distance charges for sites visited in other countries???
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BBBanditRuR
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DPI?

Ah, the DPI, how quickly they forget the Phorm...


pnjunction
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reply to The Gizmo

Re: Then

Won't work.

The whole point is that you won't be able to connect to any random IP anymore, only those on a whitelist.


gball
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easy

I will just not use the service...problem solved for me..

gorehound

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reply to sapo

Re: The highest appeal

the whole idea is bullshit.closing the internet and creating a rich man's net and a poor man's net is a crock of shit.i can see it happening though and then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

welcome to the corporate states of america


pnjunction
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reply to The Gizmo

Re: Then

...

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
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reply to baineschile

Re: why not

For what? Delivering visitors? I thought that's what my monthly Internet bill is paying for. Or am I going to get my access for free or a deeply-discounted rate if the ISP's collect money from the Web sites?


CptGemini
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reply to gball

Re: easy

I will probably loose some bit of intrest in the internet as well.


ArrayList
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reply to pnjunction

Re: Then

ala walled garden?


ArrayList
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reply to maartena

Re: All I want for xmas....

+1

i don't know how they make that so damn hard to do. giving me one port is not an act of congress.

grayem

join:2000-09-22
Saint Louis, MO

Youtube would change names every day.

Suddenly, instead of going to Youtube, we would all just go to u2ube, then othertube.com, then biffytube or whatever. The content would just slide around to avoid this. Then the ISPs wold come up with another way of overcharging people.


Frank
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reply to baineschile

Re: why not

said by baineschile:

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?

because they shouldnt have to.

the isp customers pay for internet access.

if an isp wants to make money on website content then they should produce thier own.
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ArrayList
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reply to grayem

Re: Youtube would change names every day.

they would only have a white list of sites you are allowed to go to. anything not on the white list will be a pay site.

speaking of, i wonder what porn sites would think of this. where is their vote? they make more money online than any other industry therefore you would think they would want some kind of say in how this all turns out.


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reply to gorehound

Re: The highest appeal

said by gorehound:

the whole idea is bullshit.closing the internet and creating a rich man's net and a poor man's net is a crock of shit.i can see it happening though and then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

welcome to the corporate states of america

You don't even get everything going on here. Basically they are saying any where you go on the internet you will tracked. If they know you go to you tube they will also know you go to porn sites etc. All sorts of bad can happen from this.

clickie8

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The Consumer is in Charge

This scenario has been bantered about in broadband provider trade magazines for the past 18 months. These people are being pitched by all sorts of schemes to increase revenue.

It is true that the absolute dream of telcos and cablecos is this kind of pricing arrangement, the consumer won't accept it. Doing the math on the "Facebook tier" on average broadband consumption, that's an internet bill approaching $100.

They'll attempt all sorts of schemes at fleecing the consumer until the consumer revolts.


Corehhi

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reply to baineschile

Re: why not

said by baineschile:

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?

Why don't I have a free connection if I have to pay for every where I go???


Corehhi

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reply to grayem

Re: Youtube would change names every day.

said by grayem:

Suddenly, instead of going to Youtube, we would all just go to u2ube, then othertube.com, then biffytube or whatever. The content would just slide around to avoid this. Then the ISPs wold come up with another way of overcharging people.

LOL. You are right. It's like the dance a way from Napster. Napster died and few if any cared...


FFH5
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reply to gorehound

Re: The highest appeal

said by gorehound:

then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

and you think violent revolution over cell phone data plans is the solution?


56403739
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reply to sapo
said by sapo:

Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it.

Which is precisely why wireless Internet is outrageously over-hyped as the replacement for broadcast television (and ever radio for that matter). The dominant providers will never allow you to watch TV all day for "free". This is also a great argument against AT&T and Verizon's spectrum grab in what is left of the UHF Television spectrum.


Corehhi

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reply to ArrayList

Re: Youtube would change names every day.

said by ArrayList:

they would only have a white list of sites you are allowed to go to. anything not on the white list will be a pay site.

speaking of, i wonder what porn sites would think of this. where is their vote? they make more money online than any other industry therefore you would think they would want some kind of say in how this all turns out.

Schools, goverment sites etc etc.. They will have to make a long list for that white list. I will be charged for going to the Sears web site because I need to order a part for my lawn mower????


FFH5
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reply to gball

Re: easy

said by gball:

I will just not use the service...problem solved for me..

A logical reaction and one that will make sure this doesn't actually fly as a viable option for wireless providers.

Unlike the other post calling for violent revolution as the solution.


56403739
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reply to Corehhi

Re: The highest appeal

said by Corehhi:

any where you go on the internet you will tracked. If they know you go to you tube they will also know you go to porn sites etc. All sorts of bad can happen from this.

Heh...you're already tracked everywhere you go on the Internet...your ISP already knows every visit you make to pornhub and how long you stay there. That is the least of the problems with this crap.