pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD |
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Re: Great... More Welfaresaid by HappyAnarchy :And how would you propose determining that? Perhaps try reading it. said by HappyAnarchy :Perhaps you would use your judgement? Except that you are to "Judge not lest ye be judged." LOL. The Christian critics' favorite Bible verse. Where exactly am I passing judgment here, or more particularly, judgment that is not consistent with Christian judgment, as it pertains to where these people will end up when this life is passed (which is the context of this teaching)? said by HappyAnarchy :If you are wronged (someone taking advantage of your charity) what is the correct answer? To turn the other cheek. Ahh, the Christian critics' other favorite Bible verse. How does this apply to people who do not wish to work. said by HappyAnarchy :You are supposed to trust in your fellow man, judge them not and provide for the poor - regardless of the reason they are poor. I'm supposed to blindly trust people who are all unrighteous (Romans 3 and many other places)? That's a laugh. said by HappyAnarchy :So again, how do you determine who is down on their luck and who does not want to work? Easily. People who are down on their luck are the ones trying to change that situation. People who do not want to work are not doing this. said by HappyAnarchy : Most of the welfare programs do have some safeguards in place - to get unemployment you have to be looking for work. Sure, some people game the system, but all systems are gamed. I am willing to provide for them too, as long as people in need are taken care of. I know it is impossible to make an ungameable system.
I am also far more concerned about the large number of companies and extremely wealthy that consistently find ways to get extra bits of my tax dollars despite having no need whatsoever of them than the small percentage of "the welfare state" or whatever epithet you want to use is taking advantage of the system to live at a subsistence level in order to let the vast majority of legitimate cases get help. And I won't complain about the "welfare state" while I do it either.
Which one sounds more like Jesus here? You might want to look up the passages in the New Testament where Jesus discusses the type of government that we should impose in a given country (hint - there isn't one, Jesus does not teach about government policies). With that in mind, how can you claim to be more "Jesusy" when you've shown you have 0 understanding whatsoever of even the basic tenets of what He teaches? I'm certainly not claiming that I am an expert in Jesus' teachings, but when everything you try to throw out is either incorrect or not within the proper Biblical context, then perhaps it is best you refrain from trying to decide where Jesus would weigh in on this argument. |
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bonez78
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2010-Dec-27 10:18 pm
Huh?!ComCraptastic!! |
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IowaMan Premium Member join:2008-08-21 Grinnell, IA |
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Re: Lame to say the least...Comcast should copy what Medicom has which is 3mb/256 and have it be for $10 well it can be... |
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fiberguy2My views are my own. Premium Member join:2005-05-20 |
to gar187er
where did you get subscriber GAIN from that initial blog posting? |
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Are you kidding? in many cases, someone making 20K a year can most certainly afford a computer, unless they've straddled themselves with too many kids they can't afford and got "we the people" to pay for..
In today's world, in the younger generation's budget, things like having a laptop, or a computer, a smart phone with an un-affordable-to-them service plan, an MP3 player, and other toys are far more important than, I dunno, getting serious and establishing themselves. Besides, its easier to just go 'crash' at a friend's house and float on by.
see, the extreme examples do work both ways, but really, $20K a year does allow for someone to afford a $300 computer if they really made it a priority. |
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There is a difference between homes passed and subscriber growth. The government doesn't give a rats ass for comcast to GAIN customers, just that THE SERVICE is AVAILABLE to an ADDITIONAL 400,000K homes. |
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Re: $10 broadband, by whos definition?Well, they already defined it as 'our economy tier' which is 1.5/384. |
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Re: All well and goodComcast has pledged to offer free installation. |
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Re: Low income packageA lot of wireless ISPs dont fit the 4/1 definition either. |
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to HappyAnarchy
Re: Great... More WelfareI actually worked for a welfare agency and while "most" are honest, there is a significant amount of fraud. This is why there is so much money being spent on combating fraud in the system.
With regard to the felony conviction, there are programs to get these people back to work and earn the public's trust. But you can't ignore the fact that someone is a felon. I wouldn't hire someone who was convicted of armed robbery to work in a bank for example. |
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kapp0 join:2001-12-16 Byron, IL
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Comcast giving $10 internet to low income does affect me. I am a Comcast customer and I have to pay $60 a month for internet. Just because I work 65 hours a week and make good money I should pay like crazy so some less fortunate should get the same thing for less?
Maybe all things should be on a sliding scale and my income would allow me to get a Porsche Cayenne S Turbo for $40,000. After all we are all in need of transportation.
If you can't afford broadband there is always super cheap dial-up. |
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to fifty nine
Re: Are we talking about 768K Down?said by fifty nine:said by BlueC:Well, they're calling it "$10 broadband". I consider it unethical to label a service that does not meet the definition of the said service. Whatever they call it, it's good that they are offering high speed internet to low income people for educational purposes. But only if one has Children and only for 3 years, I have No Children, I'm just very low income, Thankfully I'm not in range of Comcastic service. |
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Re: Lame to say the least...Time Warner's 128/768 is 34.99 a month.....Suddenly Comcast doesn't look so bad. |
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jfmezei Premium Member join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC |
jfmezei
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2010-Dec-29 1:17 am
Offer is not related to the merger.This is about a cable company and ISP buying a media company. Any conditions should be related to the control of a distributor over the content generator.
Offering to continue to grow the ISP business has nothing to do with the purchase of NBC. (especially since Comcast would be doing it anyways.) |
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to fifty nine
Re: Lame to say the least...Yeah, cuz everyone is willing to utilize Linux RIGHT?, although i think its become d even more user friendly than windows has. |
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ctceo Premium Member join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN |
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Re: All well and goodI'll believe that when I see it.
Besides, I doubt the management here would allow them to install anyway. They believe that people who live in Sec8 housing don't require satt or cable TV and that they should be spending their money on more important things. |
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to S_engineer
Re: $10 BroadbandCool! So if I moved to the United States, I could get a free lunch subsidized by people with more money, cheap internet, and free government wireless phone with minutes? Where do I sign up?\\\
Gosh, you guys are becoming the United Socialist States of America! USSA
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor, as old as Robin Hood himself. Sheesh. At least we don't have to rely on charity. |
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