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Comments on news posted 2011-01-05 16:04:44: Users in our Videotron forum direct our attention to the fact that a customer of the Canadian cable company is now facing a bill for $1,800 because someone hacked into her password-protected router. ..

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Hellrazor

join:2002-02-02
Abyss, PA

Bah Humbug

Like they are interested in creating a usage meter or warning you when they can rape you for $4.50 a gig...



Krisnatharok
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2009-02-11
Earth Orbit
kudos:12

2 recommendations

Or...

3GB per month is:

25% of a full Steam game.
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Will WWIII start today?



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

don't mention any updates to said game. they can be just as bad.



TigerLord
Resident pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Canada
kudos:8

Well-renowned?

No you're not... LOL at the PR lady spinning everything beautifully. Their tech support is on par with everything else in this World. It is neither worse or better than Bell's or Rogers.


brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

wow

So, glad I do not live in Canada. I alone use about 200 - 300GB a month.


Justin024

join:2010-08-11
Irving, TX

Porn?


tman852

join:2010-07-06
kudos:1
reply to TigerLord

Re: Well-renowned?

What the hell just happened? I was just looking at this and all the sudden your alien avatar xmas lights just disappeared!



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
reply to ArrayList

Re: Or...

Or DLC, which, if it's a VALVe game, will be required to play.



Duramax08
To The Moon
Premium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
reply to Justin024

Re: wow

What else can you use the internet for?
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WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX
reply to Justin024

said by Justin024:

Porn?

So ? Would be HD movies of religious gospel better ?

Justin024

join:2010-08-11
Irving, TX
reply to Duramax08

I love it!


Justin024

join:2010-08-11
Irving, TX
reply to WernerSchutz

Depends on your religion.


Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Everyday occurance

Once caps and overages are the norm(within 2yrs?) people will find out how often their routers are being broken into (WEP, WPA, and WPA2) and on the Docsis side how many modems are being cloned.



PowerUser

@softlayer.com
reply to brianiscool

Re: wow

I'm in Canada.

For the month of December, I put over 700 gigs through my DSL connection. ISP doesn't seem to care.

Not all Canadian ISP's are as bad as some.


gorehound

join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME
reply to Lazlow

Re: Everyday occurance

and hopefully for the unlearned there will be plenty of help to enable us to rip off the asses who impose the caps on us.


Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Agreed: Shared Responsibility

I would have to agree with her. At some point you have to share responsibility. Their marketing department, billing department and technology department should all share the responsibility being piss poor and return every bit of her overage charges.

Her router was secured. Linksys does not implement any weaker of a WEP/WPA connection then any other maker so this ISP trying to off load this on to them is silly at best.


ShellMMG

join:2009-04-16
Grass Lake, MI
Reviews:
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Cappage

I have several friends who are far more tech-savvy than I am, but they're clueless when it comes to the idea of broadband caps.

One such friend was telling me about the new internet TV they got for Christmas, and how they set it up to stream HD Netflix movies. In addition to the TV they both are power computer-users and own a small company. Since they have Comcast, I asked them if they were concerned about blowing the cap.

Someone cue the "deer in the headlights" look, please..."Cap? What cap?"

I warned 'em. That 250 is hard to reach for *most* people, but these two are the types who could feasibly get a Nastygram.

The harder the cloud is pushed, the uglier this capping nonsense is going to get. Google, Netflix and gamers pulling on one end, ISP's kicking and screaming on the other.



winsyrstrife
River City Bounce
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY

1 Whole year

of sweet overage loot!


Desdinova
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
reply to Justin024

Re: wow

Religion IS porn. Spiritual porn.


hoyleysox
Premium
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA

Malware

Botnets have no respect for Videotron's puny caps either.



SpottedCat

join:2004-06-27
Miami, FL

This is ridiculous

Considering that the "overage" probably didn't cost the ISP anything, they'd being overly greedy by not offering a complete refund.

They don't have to share the responsibility, because this DIDN'T COST THEM ANYTHING. ISPs pay for capacity, not data transferred. This is an outrage and a good reason to avoid this provider.



FFH
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to Skippy25

Re: Agreed: Shared Responsibility

said by Skippy25:

Her router was secured.

Was it?Or was her SSID Linksys and her password "password"?


En Enfer
This account has been compromised

join:2003-07-25
Montreal, QC
kudos:4
reply to Skippy25

Let's look at it from another angle: if there's a sicko sharing kiddy-porn throught your secured or unsecured router, the cops are gonna knock at whose door? The one where the modem is.

The router is the customer's responsability. Period.

I'd love to see you blame "Their marketing department, billing department and technology department" if such situation ever happens.
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mackey
Premium
join:2007-08-20
kudos:8
reply to SpottedCat

Re: This is ridiculous

said by SpottedCat:

They don't have to share the responsibility, because this DIDN'T COST THEM ANYTHING. ISPs pay for capacity, not data transferred.

Yup, 95th percentile billing is just a figment of our imagination and no one actually uses it

</sarcasm>

/mackey


gergles
Greg
Premium
join:2003-05-30
New York, NY

The point of "you get 50 GB" is that it does completely ignore 95th percentile billing, because most of the use that they'll need to worry about happens during peak hours. You can use a lot more in absolute GBs transferred and not touch the 95th percentile use if you're using it opposite everyone else.


Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
reply to En Enfer

Re: Agreed: Shared Responsibility

That is like saying if someone steals your car and kills someone with it that you will go to jail for it. Will you be looked at as a suspect? Of course, but in the end you will not be held responsible.


Kearnstd
Space Elf
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:1
reply to ShellMMG

Re: Cappage

these are the primary targets of overage charges. they know most tech people are capable of watching their usage with things like DD-WRT.

but the typical home users get their PS3 remote and download the Netflix software and start watching HD streams. and then get slammed at the end of the month.

Usage Based Billing will never work because the prices will not be fair. the ISPs even with full usage based billing would charge far more per gig than you pay per Therm of a gas, or Kilowatt Hour for power or cubic foot of water that is for sure.
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cghh

join:2001-01-15
Milpitas, CA
reply to Lazlow

Re: Agreed: Shared Responsibility

When you are initially arrested for the kiddy porn, your name and picture will be all over the news on TV and in the newspapers. When you are vindicated, it will be maybe a couple lines on a back page somewhere. You may not be convicted of anything, but so much for your reputation.



nyc guy

@verizon.net

montly caps

Monthly caps and today's internet habits do not work.


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
reply to Lazlow

Re: Agreed: Shared Responsibility

said by Lazlow:

That is like saying if someone steals your car and kills someone with it that you will go to jail for it. Will you be looked at as a suspect? Of course, but in the end you will not be held responsible.

You may not go to jail, but you may find yourself sued by the victim's family for negligently contributing to the accident. Say, if you left the keys in the car.

Likewise, if you left the keys in the car, your insurance company may not pay. They'll definitely cancel your policy, or raise your premium so high that you'll be taking the bus.

It's all a matter of public standards. 30 years ago it was common to leave your car running when you went to the store. If it was stolen, 99% of the public would ridicule anyone who suggested the owner was partly responsible.

Today, it's exactly the opposite.

So, with an unsecured (or, poorly secured) router, it's really a question of what the majority believe is irresponsible.