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Comments on news posted 2011-01-25 12:53:43: Given AT&T's network struggles, and the decision to ditch unlimited data and instead give customers the "choice" of a 200 MB or 2 GB cap, there was plenty of speculation over whether Verizon would retain an unlimited data offer when they launch the i.. ..

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etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
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reply to openbox9

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

said by openbox9:

Considering you won't see an LTE capable iPhone until summer 2012 at the earliest, you'll be waiting a while. Mark this post and I'll see you back here in another year or two

Well in another year or two I'll upgrade to the LTE version in the mean time I'll have what I always wanted ... a Verizon iPhone. No problem here.

We consumers is what drives the US economy.


MalibuMaxx
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join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN

years and yrs

how about a little love for current customers locked into a contract... mmm no verizon don't care about current customers... as does the rest of the wireless providers...


FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to openbox9

Re: And the update....

said by openbox9:

How can they not? It was there before Karl linked to it and posted this story. I guess we see how many people base their opinions on Karl's words instead of reading the articles that he links to.

It has been my experience here that very few actually bother to read the source links.

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Good Luck With That!

Verizon's 3G footprint is already fairly taxed - EVDO data rates here are typically 200kbps. Add several million video-streaming iFlock narcissists, and it will be a real turd.

Verizon will find itself having to rescind the plan quickly.
Apparently they didn't study their main rival, or learn anything from Virgin, TMO, and Sprint.

So if you really think you want to commit to $2K-3K to switch for 24 months, do it now! Your "unlimited" phone will not break any speed records, but at least you'll be able to boast on DSLR that you're immune from overage charges.


wizkid6

join:2002-03-31
Opelika, AL
reply to MalibuMaxx

Re: years and yrs

said by MalibuMaxx:

how about a little love for current customers locked into a contract... mmm no verizon don't care about current customers... as does the rest of the wireless providers...

I just talked to Verizon Wireless customer service, and they told me that next year when they get rid of unlimited data, people on unlimited should be grandfathered in, and when you renew (aka upgrade to a new phone) you should retain the unlimited data.

That basically means we're stuck with Verizon for the rest of our eternal lives because every other carrier will likely follow in their footsteps.


maartena
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Orange, CA
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Good!

My wife is currently still on the Unlimited Data plan from AT&T, as she got hers in April 2010 before the new data plans went into effect, so it will last till her contract ends in 2012.

If AT&T hasn't gone back to offering an unlimited plan, guess where we will be going to upgrade her 3GS to a 4?

(That is, if they still offer the unlimited in 2012 of course).
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trebzon

join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI

Not all that it seems

You left out the part were the COO said this is a temporary offer to lure new customers. Don't get excited. Verizon is just as easy to bugger there customers as AT&T. They just want to get us all in a neat line first.

»www.foxbusiness.com/personal-fin···verizon-

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to elray

Re: Good Luck With That!

said by elray:

Verizon's 3G footprint is already fairly taxed - EVDO data rates here are typically 200kbps.

Where is "around here"? I've been all over Verizon's footprint and I've NEVER seen performance that lousy except in fringe signal areas. In areas with good signal I've seen data rates that range from 800kbit/s to 2,500kbit/s.

I spent this last weekend in Manhattan where everybody claims that the network is overloaded and never saw my speed dip below 1,200kbit/s. When I was up late at night I was getting closer to 2,000kbit/s.


MIABye
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united state

No Thanks

After examining Verizons plans, I realized they don't have 2 things that ATT offers. The option to have evening minutes start at 7 and roll over minutes.
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N3OGH
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reply to etaadmin

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

I would probably be saying the same thing had I not thrown down on a Droid Incredible last April. Now I'm locked in until December.

Come my upgrade time I will re evaluate. By then, Verizon should have several LTE phones and hopefully an LTE capable iPhone 5.

But, I'm pretty happy with my HTC phone. The battery life sucks a bag of Richards, but otherwise, it's light years from my previous handset (the dreaded Blackberry Storm).

It really is amazing to see how the technology has progressed across the past 3 years. There are so many capable handsets on so many carriers, the consumer is the winner in the end with all the choices they have.
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apollo80

join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
reply to MIABye

Re: No Thanks

said by MIABye:

After examining Verizons plans, I realized they don't have 2 things that ATT offers. The option to have evening minutes start at 7 and roll over minutes.

None of that matters when you can't use your phone because you don't have RECEPTION. I live up the road from an ATT tower, and when I had one of their phones, I couldn't get reception IN MY OWN HOME. I was going to cancel, but I was begged by the store clerk to give it another chance after he upgraded me to their top of the line phone for free. I got ONE BAR, but yes, it did work. Other areas, I couldn't use the phone.

That's why I never went back to ATT.

shoan

join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
reply to maartena

Re: Good!

You get to keep that plan I had an iphone 3G and just upgraded to an iPhone 4 and i got to keep my unlimited. It's a case of if you change away from that plan you lose it and cant get it back but if you stay with it you get to keep it.

jims2321

join:2000-04-05
Oviedo, FL
reply to maartena
said by maartena:

My wife is currently still on the Unlimited Data plan from AT&T, as she got hers in April 2010 before the new data plans went into effect, so it will last till her contract ends in 2012.

If you are on unlimited now, you can upgrade to iphone 4 and retain the unlimited plan. I did this for my wife on her 3G to 4G phone back in August.


JohnInSJ
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join:2003-09-22
Aptos, CA
reply to MIABye

Re: No Thanks

said by MIABye:

After examining Verizons plans, I realized they don't have 2 things that ATT offers. The option to have evening minutes start at 7 and roll over minutes.

Minutes? you mean for like talking? Weird
I am going to make a bold prediction. Some percentage of VZ iPhone users will be unhappy with something...
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD

1 recommendation

Stupid iPhone Users

The only reason carriers can get away with limited data offerings is because stupid iPhone users will buy any polished turd that Lord Steve tells them to buy, no matter how crippled it is.

Had people stopped buying the iPhone once AT&T capped the data plans, then there would be no incentive for Verizon to consider capped plans which involve the iPhone.

Too bad the rest of us are going to be dragged down into capped data plan hell with them.
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INsano

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Why renew?

I know it's anathema to gadget lovers, but why renew down the road if it means you have to take a new, bucketed contract? Once your contract "ends" it doesn't mean the service stops, it just means you go month-to-month. If you still like your "magical" device, you can keep liking it, and its unlimited minutes, assuming they don't issue a press release that they're going to force such people into signing a new contract.
I really feel sorry for bucketed smartphone users. (3 Sprint for now)
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Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
reply to openbox9

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

I am with Openbox9. There will be no LTE Unlimited Plan. I can see VZW even doing the old "You want the iPhone 5 well your Data Plan and Minute Plan do not Qualify".

My belief is VZW wants the immediate push for iPhone's so they went unlimited. That will go away with LTE if that is on iPhone 5(As Rumored) come June(If VZW gets it like AT&T does Annually).

This will get many unhappy AT&T subscribers to Jump now because they have an Unlimited Option. It will also get People who wanted Unlimited when they option went away.


IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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reply to Lotheron
Why the backpedaling by Verizon mere hours later on unlimited data?

This is incompetence. In some ways worse than what AT&T did with the iPad data plans...

Less than a day for them to pull the limited time only crap...

Who's in charge over there?


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reply to MichaelPea

Re: Foot shooting

said by MichaelPea:

As often as Verizon shoots themselves in their feet, I would think that by now, their feet should look like bleeding swiss cheese.

Nah, Verizon's feet does not look like bleeding swiss cheese. It is the consumers' pockets that do.
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fatmanskinny
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reply to pnh102

Re: Stupid iPhone Users

Oh, so you are talking about consumers being united to bring about a change that will work in their favor??! Where in the world are you getting these outlandish ideas from?

Your thought process is counterproductive to the corporate monster being fed. Remember, corporations have to make money, too, even when they offer ridiculous plans. /sarcasm
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DilbertE

join:2009-12-15
Antigo, WI
reply to Lotheron

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

This is Verizon's bait and switch gimmic. Once on board they evenually will have the same caps AT&T has. Nothing is forever.


TwighlightLA
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iPhone and provider Competition

I'm not disagreeing with anyone, just asking a question. Since Verizon has had for some time an unlimited data package for its Smart Phones like the Android X and for its feature phones too why should they charge more or change the terms for the iPhone. What they are proposing for the iPhone is what they all ready have for their other smart and feature phones.

Frankly with the development of more and more Android and other smart phones I don't see Apple being as big a player one year from now at least in terms of percentage of phones sold and used. They will still be very popular but the level of it will wane with more and better choices within the competition.


jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Avon, OH

4g

Do we know what the 4g lte smartphone plans will be capped and priced at?


KrK
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reply to openbox9

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

said by openbox9:

I definitely wouldn't bet on that.

I'm with you. ANY change at all, and that deal will be history, never to repeat.
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KrK
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reply to wizkid6

Re: years and yrs

said by wizkid6:

I just talked to Verizon Wireless customer service, and they told me that next year when they get rid of unlimited data, people on unlimited should be grandfathered in, and when you renew (aka upgrade to a new phone) you should retain the unlimited data.

Key word there is "should." I'd get that in writing, or you can forget about it.
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openbox9
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Germany
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reply to Big Dawg 23

Re: Perhaps there really is some competition?

LTE iPhone won't arrive until summer 2012 at the earliest, but otherwise I agree.

lefty1

join:2002-10-25
Clay, NY
reply to Lotheron
said by Lotheron:

I hope AT&T realizes they made a blunder once all those people that would rather not worry about overages head to VZW.

There isn't anyone at AT&T smart enough to realize anything meaningful.

openbox9
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reply to IPPlanMan
It was the same guy within hours. My guess is that Cheng didn't push hard enough before the investor meeting and McAdam was able to squash the viral misinformation after the meeting concluded.

openbox9
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reply to DilbertE
Except that now you know the caps are coming before you buy the iPhone. Kind of hard to bait and switch if the bait is known and the switch is imminent