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Comments on news posted 2011-04-08 11:19:11: In addition to starting to refine signal booster rules, the FCC yesterday also announced (pdf) modified pole attachment rules, a move the FCC says will reduce costs for attaching broadband lines and wireless antennas to utility poles across the count.. ..

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Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

What roaming?

My phone (Verizon) has never went into "Roaming" so far, and that's going through Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Colorado.

..does roaming even exist anymore?


TSWYO
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Cheyenne, WY
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You need to look at the regional carriers... You mentioned Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana. Union Wireless is a regional GSM provider mostly in Wyoming but with towers in Norther Colorado and possible southern Montana. They have by far the best GSM coverage in Wyoming, but people travel out of those areas from time to time. Union needs a reasonable cost effective way to allow roaming…. This will help ensure that.



Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

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reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

My phone (Verizon) has never went into "Roaming" so far, and that's going through Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Colorado.

..does roaming even exist anymore?

My Sprint smartphone has gone in to both voice & data roaming occasionally in the the Philly metro area in the past 2 yrs. Sprint roams on the dominant Verizon network in rural areas of Philly metro.

But Verizon only allows Sprint to data roam on 1x and not EVDO and that is why the FCC is involving itself.
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Nsane_iceman
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join:2001-02-26
North Richland Hills, TX

reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

My phone (Verizon) has never went into "Roaming" so far, and that's going through Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Colorado.

..does roaming even exist anymore?

Last time it happened to me was in the middle of no where Arkansas, with a VZW phone, back in 2002. I used to hear about people on Sprint that would randomly go "roaming" in a building, but that also was back in 2002-2003.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD

Let's Kill Deployment

And exactly why are companies going to put up towers now if they know that other companies can use them at a discount?
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Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
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Crying! Mommy FCC is going to make me share my network!

Mommy the FCC is going to make me share my network with others, I want to take my ball and go home.


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Longport, NJ
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The FCC's McDowell voted against data roaming and laid out the position Verizon will take in a court challenge to the new roaming rule. And that is the FCC has no legal authority to issue such a rule for data since that is a common carrier authority which doesn't apply to data.

»www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily···52A4.pdf
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batterup
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

Net netural too I assume.

So Verizon builds the best high speed mobile broadband and now must let a low cost own nothing carrier leech off the network.

Brilliant just brilliant. The companies that are doers have smart people working there and they will not get taken for a ride. Brake up "The Bell System" and it comes back with less oversight than before. Brilliant just brilliant.


HappyAnarchy

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reply to pnh102

Re: Let's Kill Deployment

Discount doesn't mean free. They still get to charge for the access and they can lay out whether or not the charges are fair to the FCC.

Essentially, they are complaining that they will only make some profit off of the towers, instead of enough profit to try and drive smaller competitors out of business.


hamburglar_

join:2002-04-29
united state

reply to batterup

Re: Net netural too I assume.

It's been happening for quite a while. They are called MVNOs.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVNO
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_MVNO

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
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reply to TSWYO

Re: What roaming?

said by TSWYO:

Union needs a reasonable cost effective way to allow roaming…. This will help ensure that.

If they have the "best GSM coverage in Wyoming" there's a simple way for them to get cost effective roaming. Don't allow AT&T customers to roam on their network at a reasonable rate unless AT&T allows Union customers to do the same on the AT&T network.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to batterup

Re: Net netural too I assume.

The large carriers are charging the smaller carriers rates that are much higher than their own retail rates. This is supposed to help with that.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
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reply to Simba7

Re: What roaming?

My Verizon phone went onto "extended network" (i.e: roaming partners) in Kentucky for a 40 to 50 mile stretch of I-65 last year. I was also roaming when I visited Mammoth Caves National Park. Looked it up when I got home and discovered I was using the network of a regional carrier called Blueglass cellular. I had full EVDO connectivity and voice handoffs between VZW's network and Blueglass were seemless.

I've also wound up on a roaming partner for the short stretch of I-81 through West Virginia. Not sure which carrier that is. Whomever they are they don't have EVDO because my phone always winds up on 1x during that portion of my roadtrips. Kind of sucks because it always kills my Pandora streaming. I drive through there often enough that I now try to schedule the phone calls I have to make to occur there. Of course that's also a PITA because they don't seem to do seemless handoffs to the VZW network like most roaming partners. My calls always drop when I leave the roaming footprint and rediscover the VZW network.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA

reply to HappyAnarchy

Re: Let's Kill Deployment

No, they are complaining because the FCC has zero legal authority to do this. If the rule of law is to mean anything they should have to seek such authority from the US Congress because they can impose these rules.


hamburglar_

join:2002-04-29
united state

reply to battleop

Re: Net netural too I assume.

Not sure where you are getting that information from? I had a Net10 CDMA phone on the Verizon Network last year. I had 150 Minutes for ~$13/month and they rolled over. There were over 1000 minutes left when I ported the number out last July.

I haven't seen a similar plan on Verizon for $13 a month, or even a 300 minute plan for $26. Hell, Net10 even has a 750min plan for $25/month and Straight Talk is $45 for unlimited. Not sure how they are charging more than retail and these companies are offering these plans?


cork1958
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reply to Mr Matt

Re: Crying! Mommy FCC is going to make me share my network!

said by Mr Matt:

Mommy the FCC is going to make me share my network with others, I want to take my ball and go home.

That's about what it sounds like and about how Verizon reacts to EVERYTHING!!
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join:2004-01-26
japan
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reply to Mr Matt
How about you share access to your house, car, wife, and retirement portfolio with us for a nominal fee that we determine. Don't worry about the legalities, just do it.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to hamburglar_

Re: Net netural too I assume.

I don't know anything about Net10 so I am going to make an assumption that they are really just a Verizon wholesaler and not a wireless carrier that's going to have a roaming agreement.

The way that things are priced to the Verizon wholesalers is going to be completely different than someone like Cricket.

firedrakes

join:2009-01-29
Arcadia, FL

reply to HappyAnarchy

Re: Let's Kill Deployment

yeah . they make a insane amount of money on this. with almost no cost to them to run it


TSWYO
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join:2003-05-03
Cheyenne, WY

reply to Crookshanks

Re: What roaming?

I am pretty sure they have a good agreement. I don't use Union myself, but when I was phone shopping a couple months ago, they have some pretty good rates... Cheaper than T and V

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