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Comments on news posted 2011-05-27 13:50:28: "We're getting to a gap between what the public thinks the law says and what the American government secretly thinks the law says," Senator Ron Wyden tells Wired, in an interview discussing the Patriot Act. ..

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SLD
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No more secrets

There might be a few closely-guarded secrets in the name of nat'l security, but this really has to stop! Let us see what they are doing so we can decide if it is acceptable.


SLD
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He didn't even show up

Obama avoided the situation by not even signing in DC!


Duramax08
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reply to SLD

Re: No more secrets

said by SLD:

Let us see what they are doing so we can decide if it is acceptable.

you have fun with that.


45612019

join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

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The Corruption Meter

I see the Patriot Act as a clever tool to measure corruption levels in the United States government. Because it has to be renewed every few years, it's an accurate way to measure how many corrupt fascists reside in the current Congress.

So when an extension to this thing fails to pass one day, we will know that corruption in the U.S. government has been pushed down to manageable levels.

...I don't expect to see that in my lifetime.


EUS
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I was just reading about this +

That the state of emergency declared from 9/11 is still in effect?

Os

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Washington At Work Again

Funny how quickly they can all come together to eviscerate our rights in perpetuity, isn't it?

Create jobs? Takes forever. Pass a budget? Even longer. Get Americans healthcare? Forget it.

But in 5 minutes, they can pass this, and how dare we have any floor votes on amendments that would "endanger" the country.

This is why I'm done with politics.


Simba7
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Go Montana!

At least both of our senators were against this POS.

Too bad the majority vote approved it.


FFH5
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Re: He didn't even show up

said by SLD:

Obama avoided the situation by not even signing in DC!

What does it matter where he signed it? The Office of President goes wherever the president is. And so does the press, so what did he avoid?
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motoracer

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We lost...

The terrorists won. They instilled the idea that were are never safe and have to give up our freedoms because of them.


ArrayList
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reply to EUS

Re: I was just reading about this +

yea and I say that our politicians are a bunch of scared babies. Grow a pair and turn off the freaking alarm.


ArrayList
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Re: We lost...

said by motoracer:

The terrorists won.

agreed


FFH5
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Re: Go Montana!

said by Simba7:

At least both of our senators were against this POS.

Too bad the majority vote approved it.

Maybe they didn't want to aggravate the militia groups in Montana that are classified by the US as terrorist organizations and subject to the Patriot Act. Lots of militia supporters voting in Montana.
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45612019

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reply to motoracer

Re: We lost...

The American government ARE the terrorists.


whfsdude
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reply to Simba7

Re: Go Montana!

My representatives didn't vote for or against it.

Os

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That's the great thing about being in DC. You at least know you don't have a voice in government! Too bad they put up theatre for the rest of us.

Wilsdom

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Re: He didn't even show up

Using the auto-signer used for signing memorabilia and Christmas cards is an admission of the worthlessness of that office.

talz13

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Re: I was just reading about this +

this is beginning to sound like the situation in egypt, where the government was using all the powers reserved for state of emergency... lets ask the president of egypt how that is going for him now...


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Re: We lost...

Now your seeing the situation, I hope.

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Heres your no-longer conspiracy, all the proof you should ever need (as if we needed more).

Don't forget you can be arrested for showing respect to our (now defunct) constitutions founding fathers.

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tmc8080

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old scumbag, meet new scumbag

g w bush = b h obama

meanwhile the microscope should have been over in Pakistan!

gorehound

join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME
reply to Os

Re: Washington At Work Again

me too.you vote for either democrats or republicans and you are so screwed.
time to vote indie all the time and put my money where my mouth is.
the more who vote indie the less the other two parties will get.

MTU
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Worthy of your time


firedrakes

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if i was the president. i would fire most of the senate and higher- ups . i send them to a hell hold and see if they like it. AND higher people that have work in the fields.that this talkers got voted in by the companys.

WernerSchutz

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Sugar Land, TX
reply to talz13

Re: I was just reading about this +

said by talz13:

this is beginning to sound like the situation in egypt, where the government was using all the powers reserved for state of emergency... lets ask the president of egypt how that is going for him now...

It is a bad thing only when someone else does it.

Like say, waterboarding.

Or the KLA (Kosovo LIberation Army), labeled as terrorist organization (properly) until they conveniently became our allies to fight Slobodan Milosevic (which was just defending Serbia, as its president), then they magically were renamed "freedom fighters".

Or the the "freedom fighters" mujahedeen fighting Soviets, which became terrorists when supporting the Taliban.

A matter of perspective, seems.


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Re: Go Montana!

That's right but we must remember to protect all our rights. They are trying to regain control but as we seen that when people had enough they get up go to the capital and put their foot down and shout, "We are tired of this, we are fed up and we are not taking it anymore!" Then proceed to fire every one of them bums who caused this chaos.....
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Steve
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Re: Worthy of your time

said by firedrakes:

if i was the president. i would fire most of the senate and higher- ups .

The President can't fire the Senate.


atuarre
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said by Steve:

said by firedrakes:

if i was the president. i would fire most of the senate and higher- ups .

The President can't fire the Senate.

He can however issue Executive Order 66.


SLD
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reply to Duramax08

Re: No more secrets

Fun? It is called civic and Constitutional accountability. Stop being so Texan.


Rogue Wolf
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reply to atuarre

Re: Worthy of your time

No good. Everyone knows that politicians are Sith, not Jedi.


OldschoolDSL
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Re: We lost...

said by 45612019:

The American government ARE the terrorists.

Sadly, this maybe true.


OldschoolDSL
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Classified

The bill / law and the legal interpretation has been classified.

How can we still be a democracy or even a republic, if the laws become classified?!

Even a dictatorship wants you to know the laws.
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