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Comments on news posted 2011-07-11 15:25:36: As had been expected, Verizon this week began pushing smartphone updates that cripple some devices' innate ability to be used as a mobile hotspot -- for free. ..

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flycuban

join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL

Own you?

I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.

NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

.

I've come to terms with Verizon wanting me to charge my phone while I tether or pay them . So I have been using PDANet for years.

Barnstormer

join:2007-12-12
Waverly, IA

Bastards

They come out and say,"Here is a free feature that you can test out for a limited time." Then they go ahead and stick to that limited time promise.. Those bastards!


mmay149q
Premium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48

reply to flycuban

Re: Own you?

said by flycuban:

I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.

Maybe, or maybe it's as simple as not downloading the updates?

Matt


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA

reply to NeoandGeo

Mornonic....

this is why people root their phones...to add back what should be there for free to begin with


firephoto
Facts hurt
Premium
join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA

reply to Barnstormer

Re: Bastards

said by Barnstormer:

They come out and say,"Here is a free feature that you can test out for a limited time." Then they go ahead and stick to that limited time promise.. Those bastards!

Imagine the computer in your car giving your an extra 5mpg with a special limited time feature then the dealer says the trial is over and you have to pay $20 for this feature now. Why not?
--
Say no to JAMS!


Alex J

@apexcovantage.com

reply to Barnstormer

They come out and say,"Here is a free feature that you can test out for a limited time." Then they go ahead and stick to that limited time promise.. Those bastards!

Oh please. It's functionality naturally embedded in the device, not a "service" provided by Verizon. It's a pointless layer of additional fees, especially when users are already paying per kb.

zeddlar

join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK

reply to Barnstormer
Will this affect rooted phones?



Lark3po
Premium
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
Reviews:
·Knology

reply to flycuban

Re: Own you?

said by flycuban:

I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.

If you got a subsidized phone on contract do you really own the phone before the contract terms are met? I ask because I truly don't know.

I personally no longer buy phones on contract for this very reason. I will pay full price for a (unlocked) phone I like and be in total control over what is and what is not on it.

slckusr
Premium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

reply to flycuban

said by flycuban:

I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.

Its not just Verizon, Motorola also likes to keep things locked up (bootloaders). This stuff wont change and there arent enough people to get loud enough to make them care.

At least Verizon has an excuse to lock some things down (tethering does use spectrum, which cost money).


MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1

reply to mmay149q
It also fixes the problem with the phone rebooting frequently, I have the phone and I needed this update, not downloading it isn't a good option, better option is to root the phone.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to danclan

Re: Mornonic....

However it's much easier to eat up 2GB when you use as hotspot and they'll charge $10/GB after 2GB. VZW will rip you one way or another... unless you're both grandfathered and rooted - for now.

slckusr
Premium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

reply to Alex J

Re: Bastards

said by Alex J :

They come out and say,"Here is a free feature that you can test out for a limited time." Then they go ahead and stick to that limited time promise.. Those bastards!

Oh please. It's functionality naturally embedded in the device, not a "service" provided by Verizon. It's a pointless layer of additional fees, especially when users are already paying per kb.

This i agree with, if we are paying for the data what does it matter how we use it.

Unrated

join:2007-02-15
Frisco, TX

Free LTE was only temporary offer.

I believe Vz had made it clear that the free hot spot on these LTE phones was only temporary.

»www.droid-life.com/2011/06/14/ve···uly-6th/

tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2

Huh?

Verizon now has a cap on data so if a customer if paying for 2GB of data why should Verizon care how that customer uses it?

Is Verizon giving out free lube with each new account?


MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1

reply to zeddlar

Re: Bastards

rooted phones can download third party apps to complete the same function, or revert to the old version of the app. but the stock rooted version of this update has the limitation.


FBGuy
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
Reviews:
·Comcast
·T-Mobile US

need the ability to..

consumers need the ability to buy a phone sans OS. The OS should be maintained by the manufacturer and/or Google. I really have never liked the idea of a carrier doing more than keeping the wireless network available. I don't expect them to maintain my devices.


netwire
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Shelby, NC
kudos:1

I agree but carriers do not want to become "dumb pipes", instead they want to provide all the services and features for a premium.



Lark3po
Premium
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
Reviews:
·Knology

reply to FBGuy

said by FBGuy:

consumers need the ability to buy a phone sans OS. The OS should be maintained by the manufacturer and/or Google. I really have never liked the idea of a carrier doing more than keeping the wireless network available. I don't expect them to maintain my devices.

Would buying an unlocked phone not answer your desires?

I bought an N1 from Google and have service with ATT. All my updates come straight from Google well before ATT gets around to pushing updates out for other Android phones.


FBGuy
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
Reviews:
·Comcast
·T-Mobile US

said by Lark3po:

said by FBGuy:

consumers need the ability to buy a phone sans OS. The OS should be maintained by the manufacturer and/or Google. I really have never liked the idea of a carrier doing more than keeping the wireless network available. I don't expect them to maintain my devices.

Would buying an unlocked phone not answer your desires?

I bought an N1 from Google and have service with ATT. All my updates come straight from Google well before ATT gets around to pushing updates out for other Android phones.

that would indeed solve the problem. I'm not sure how easy an unlocked verizon-capable smartphone is to come by though.

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