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Comments on news posted 2011-08-10 11:19:17: Last week we directed your attention to new findings by some Berkeley researchers and the EFF that shows that ten ISPs are using hardware to intercept and sometimes redirect user search results for additional profit. ..


Katzendreck

join:2003-09-29
Calgary, AB

Cool gimmick

Good luck with that damage control.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

How much money is enough?

God damn does everything got to be about the almighty dollar when you're making BILLIONS already? Do people have to still be assholes just to earn a few more?


HarveyRabit

@windstream.net

Wiretapping

How is this not wire tapping?


FiReSTaRT
Premium
join:2010-02-26
Canada
reply to Katzendreck

Re: Cool gimmick

said by Katzendreck:

Good luck with that damage control.

People are still buying Nike and Sony


FiReSTaRT
Premium
join:2010-02-26
Canada
Reviews:
·Velcom
reply to 88615298

Re: How much money is enough?

said by 88615298:

God damn does everything got to be about the almighty dollar when you're making BILLIONS already? Do people have to still be assholes just to earn a few more?

Yes, and oh my GOD, HEEEELL YEEEAH!
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
reply to HarveyRabit

Just had a horriable thought

getting Paxfire records on Rep Barney Franks internet use.

Where is the barf bag.........


OOLUser

@optonline.net

Frontier

I want to see action taken against Frontier Communications.


Bastardized

@comcastbusiness.net

When does the non-sense end?

Would love to see an end to all DNS redirection (that is, if you can't return the correct address, don't return anything). It is annoying, useless, and potential for bad things to happen is increased.

Wish ISP's would learn to just provide Internet access and not try to provide these "value added services".


ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
reply to HarveyRabit

Re: Wiretapping

It's on their property.

pinjas

join:2011-01-31
River Falls, WI
reply to HarveyRabit
It's not wire tapping because you aren't going to tell them it's wire tapping. Because nobody is going to go smash down their doors and tell them that it's wrong.
Maybe I am merely sheltered to these things, but I have -never- met a single person who was able and willing to actually stand up for their personal freedoms and rights. In this situation, in the best case senario and the only situation that I've seen to hold any action (however incredibly weak those actions may be) a 'customer' will subscribe to someone else's terrible service. That's it!

In the vast majority of the situations, no freeman stands up and does anything about anything even though there is absolute real and necessary reason to do so.

I saw a sign once on a car mechanic shop billboard.

It read,

"Land of the free? Home of the brave?"


ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
It should say more appropriately:

"Land of the enslaved, home of the coward".


coldmoon
Premium
join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
Reviews:
·Windstream
reply to pinjas
Actually, the best sign ever to grace a garage's office wall was the one my best friend's father owned when we we kids:

"A lack of planning on your part does not create an emergency on mine!"

The "freemen" voted for these people time and time again, yet complain when they see them giving exactly what they told them they would get.

Is the coffee strong enough now?
--
Returnil - 21st Century body armor for your PC


Byebye

@rcn.com

Revenue

Is the only way rcn can generate revenue. They are bleeding customers to time warner, Verizon, comcast.Not like their TiVo is making a killing for them.


rchandra
Stargate Universe fan
Premium
join:2000-11-09
14225-2105
reply to FiReSTaRT

Re: Cool gimmick

ummm....Nike? What's up with Nike?

Sony I can understand due to their thorough screwing of both customers and, by extension, artists in their rootkit/music DRM attempt shenanigans.


rchandra
Stargate Universe fan
Premium
join:2000-11-09
14225-2105
reply to coldmoon

Re: Wiretapping

said by coldmoon:

The "freemen" voted for these people time and time again, yet complain when they see them giving exactly what they told them they would get.

What I don't understand is why the US Amendment XXII only applies to Presidents. What I'm hoping for is an amendment which encompasses Reps and Senators too. Maybe such an amendment could also update XXII so that the LCM of terms would be the limit...in other words, currently, since Senators are 6 yrs, Reps are 2, and Presidents are 4, the limit would be 12 years. But at the same time, I would like to reduce all the terms too, with the justification that society now has the tools to communicate far more rapidly, therefore we're stuck with these rascals too long. Let's say halve all the terms.

Hopefully that'll somewhat alleviate the "vote for people over and over" problem we seem to have for everything BUT the Presidency. Shorter terms would hold all reps/execs more resposible and responsive to their constituents, while retaining the intent of republics to limit mob rule.
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English is a difficult enough language to interpret correctly when its rules are followed, let alone when a writer chooses not to follow those rules.

Jeopardy! replies and randomcaps REALLY suck!


rchandra
Stargate Universe fan
Premium
join:2000-11-09
14225-2105
reply to Bastardized

Re: When does the non-sense end?

I don't know what the immediate answer is, but I know what you're saying. Think of the Site Finder abomination.

Long term, widespread "complete" deployment of IPv6 could help. The key is that encryption is mandatory to implement but at the same time optional to utilize. Ergo, provided the encryption and authentication is strong enough not to be niggled into by the likes of Paxfire, there is no opportunity for any such redirection.

DNSSEC could also potentially alleviate this problem. But that requires widespread client implementations and widespread zone signing, neither of which is particularly prevalent.
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English is a difficult enough language to interpret correctly when its rules are followed, let alone when a writer chooses not to follow those rules.

Jeopardy! replies and randomcaps REALLY suck!

Kearnstd
Space Elf
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:1
reply to 88615298

Re: How much money is enough?

said by 88615298:

God damn does everything got to be about the almighty dollar when you're making BILLIONS already? Do people have to still be assholes just to earn a few more?

Sadly yes, what really bothers me is the ISPs are just itching to get us on usage based billing with small caps and huge overages while still charging 40+ a month for the connection itself and then they also want to sell ever bit of data they can so they can feed us more ads.

Ads that count against your bit bucket of course, and these days ads can include streaming video so get used to that overage because a video ad popped up(Ok not for everyone, Smart people use a browser that they can load Adblock into, but still the point is there)
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7
reply to rchandra

Re: Cool gimmick

said by rchandra:

ummm....Nike? What's up with Nike?

History of child and/or sweatshop labor in the factories they contract through.

Also more recently, there was a controversy regarding drug themed shirts.

i wouldn't exactly rank Nike up with Sony on the corporate evil chart if that is what the OP is referring to.


cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7
reply to ctceo

Re: Wiretapping

said by ctceo:

It's on their property.

Then telcos shouldn't need the courts to sign off on wiretap warrants*. I mean, the switching equipment is on their property...

* - Yes, I know about the "illegal" NSA wiretaping fiasco...


TWH

@bell.ca
reply to 88615298

TNSTAAFM

said by 88615298:

God damn does everything got to be about the almighty dollar when you're making BILLIONS already? Do people have to still be assholes just to earn a few more?

There's no such thing as a free market.

Welcome to the Mythical Free Market, a grinding soulless guiltless amoral system wherein a corporation exists with the sole imperative to increase return on investment to shareholders and anything done in that pursuit is fair practice.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to cdru

Re: Cool gimmick

Sony still has the history of the sweatshops/child labor factories - just like Wal-Mart but still shopped by Millions.


ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
Reviews:
·Virgin Mobile Br..
reply to cdru

Re: Wiretapping

I've had to clarify this before. If they know you won't know they have no interest in telling you, and probably wouldn't. They only do so for good public face. They don't want people thinking that they act on their own without any oversight, but they do when it is in their interest.