KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
Kearnstd
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2011-Aug-11 12:33 pm
Good.I Know that nothing will come of this but at least it got some media attention.
However What bothers me about the idea of ISPs snooping search data almost more than the privacy issues is they want to keep raising the cost of their product. they want caps and overages and in the future bill by the byte, yet they keep profiting off our personal data while not kicking any kinds of discounts to the users whos data they are profiting off of. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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pnh102
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2011-Aug-11 12:51 pm
Wrong Headlinequote: Paxfire Snooping Scandal Gets Political Attention
Translation: Paxfire's Campaign Contribution Checks Have Not Cleared |
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CamaroQuestion everything Premium Member join:2008-04-05 Westfield, MA |
Camaro
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2011-Aug-11 1:00 pm
Kind of funny...That every ISP has jumped on the caps,overages bandwagon.Then they run right out and jack up rates to cover whatever they pull out of there ass for a excuse every year,but to top it off they run right out and buy shiny new snooping equipment to make more of a profit off of us and don't even bother upgrading anything that would help with capacity of there network. |
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Anonymous182
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2011-Aug-11 1:30 pm
It's *possible* the ISPs are unawareIt's not very likely, but it is possible that the ISPs truly didn't know that this was happening, if this comment is to be believed (from a previous story): » Paxfire is shadyThe most relevant part: Even though we ONLY use them for NXDOMAIN redirection, we've caught them performing this search hijacking in the past. The first time, they told me that they were requested to make the change by an individual that hadn't worked for us in 3 years. I raised hell about it, and they reverted it. Since then, I've been watching for it, and they've made 'configuration mistakes' to turn this back on more than a few times.
I very much suspect that they're intentionally turning this on without ISP knowledge to increase revenues, reverting it when they get caught. |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16 Premium Member join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR |
NOYB
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2011-Aug-11 2:13 pm
Call Redirection The snooping part is bad enough. But imagine, you place a phone call and your carrier redirects your call to one of their buddies who impersonates the party you intended to call. Or how about this. Rather than redirecting your call they alter the conversation so neither of you actually knows what the other really said.
Imagine if phone companies did this with wrong / disconnected numbers. Oh we thought you intended to call the Whitehouse, FBI, CIA, 911, etc.
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cramer Premium Member join:2007-04-10 Raleigh, NC Westell 6100 Cisco PIX 501
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to Anonymous182
Re: It's *possible* the ISPs are unawareSomehow I highly doubt that. The ISPs know exactly what it'll do (and what it is doing), that's why they bought it. If they don't have configuration control over the devices in their network, then they are incompetent fools and will be learning a hard lesson in criminal negligence.
(However, history has shown any "action" against them will be the equiv of a finger wag... "don't do that again". Any fine(s) will be laughable often amounting to pennies per customer, when these tactics earned them considerable money -- and that's why the greedy little bastards *ALWAYS* do it again.) |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16 Premium Member join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR 1 edit |
NOYB
Premium Member
2011-Aug-11 2:45 pm
Yup. Penalties need to more than erase gains. And should be in form of a refund to customers (injured/violated parties). But if you really want strong action to be taken, have the penalties go directly to Congressional Reps. Sadly, money seems to be their only motivation as well. Well, right behind power that is.
Kind of reminds me of the Larry, Darryl, and Darryl Slogan; Anything for a buck.
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to Camaro
Re: Kind of funny..."That every ISP has jumped on the caps,overages bandwagon."
Every ISP? |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
dvd536
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2011-Aug-12 12:13 am
said by battleop:"That every ISP has jumped on the caps,overages bandwagon."
Every ISP? Every one thats got OVERPRICED VIDEO to protect has. |
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So that's not EVERY ISP... So maybe there is not a secret group that all ISPs belong to where we sit around smoking fine Cuban cigars and drinking only the most expensive whisky while plotting against all consumers? |
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CamaroQuestion everything Premium Member join:2008-04-05 Westfield, MA |
Camaro
Premium Member
2011-Aug-12 11:30 am
I don't think they are sitting around sipping whiskey,but when one company decides to try something like the crap they have been pulling,the other company's play wait and see if how much backlash comes from customers,FCC if any.Then everyone see's dollar signs with no reinvestment intentions in the great networks they brag about on TV. |
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to NOYB
Re: Call RedirectionHow much can dumb RCN make on hijacking?
How will dumb RCN waste on legal fees? |
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