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Comments on news posted 2011-09-19 08:55:54: Last week Netflix acknowledged that the company's decision to split apart their DVD rental and streaming tiers -- and impose a massive rate hike in the process -- resulted in them losing a million more subscribers than previously predicted. ..

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myerskl

join:2001-05-31
Fairborn, OH

I cancelled my account today

I was going to ride it out but with all the stupid changes heck with them. I don't want two accounts to go back and forth. They picked a bad time of year to do this will all the new TV shows starting.


c0c0c0
c0c0c0 is the color of my soul.

join:2004-12-20
Lexington, OK
reply to 88615298

Re: Also adding video game rentals

I like the DVD by mail over streaming because I like watching bonus features (when the studios don't decide to remove them from rentals), I also like to be able to have a physical disc so I can then make it possible for me to view that movie at a later time at my convience without having to worry if Netflix or the studios has decided that picticular title is now out of rotation. Also there is like 10x the content on DVD than on Streaming. I have a varied taste in movies, I can watch a blockbuster one day and the next watch something from Peter Greenaway or Lars Von Trier. Both directors I have never seen their titles on streaming.
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albie

join:2002-03-17
Decatur, IL
kudos:1

Netflix's website has become a joke

Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place.


newview
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Parsonsburg, MD
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Netflix has succeeded ...

in pissing off most of their subscribers in one fell swoop, and now they apologise and shoot themselves in the foot, AGAIN?

Who they hell is running the show over there, ex-AT&T Death Star marketing droids?

... and so begins the death spiral.

Kearnstd
Space Elf
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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reply to FFH5

Re: Netflix betting on future Hollywood may not let them have

The studios and content owners again show how they have zero clue on how to operate a business. but this should not surprise us. Entertainment has always moved at a glacial pace compared to the technology that can carry it.

However the MAFIAA should know that the more they force reasonably priced content out of the way the more they make it seem less immoral to fly the Jolly Rodger and torrent the content instead.
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qworster

join:2001-11-25
Bryn Mawr, PA

BANG!!

That's Netflix shooting themselves in the foot.

Fellas, if it ain't broken don't fix it!!!


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Really Stupid move, and they are being savaged on the Blog

Dumb, Dumb, DUMB.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Brilliant idea for Netflix management! Adopt at once!

I have a brilliant idea! Let's split the service apart further! Let's make DVD's separate from Blu-Ray's, and let's split streaming between standard definition and high definition, and then we can charge people 4 separate times and make each site completely stand-alone! Yeah! Brilliant!

See, I'm FULLY qualified to be CEO.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to FFH5

Re: Netflix not so smart?

They are being savaged on their blog. Rightly so. Nobody likes this move. Not customers, not investors, not pundits.

If they are smart they will back up on this.

.... I don't think they will.
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to albie

Re: Netflix's website has become a joke

said by albie:

Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place.

Reviewers? No one I know that has Netflix ever messed around with that. There was a reason they got rid of it.

Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ
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reply to jims2321

Re: Netflix not so smart?

I am going to laugh hard when the studios get their wish of a world without Netflix.

and then suddenly see their piracy numbers skyrocket. of course they will blame the pirates and not their own blundering stupidity of pushing licensing costs beyond greedy when working with Netflix.
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TheFuture

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Netflix streaming will become like Amazon On Demand

What is the future of Netflix streaming? The studios will never let Netflix have recent content and movie releases and offer that for a low monthly unlimited use fee. Never! Netflix will have to move to a pay per view to be able to offer recent material. Just like Vudu or Amazon On Demand does. I'm guessing Netflix will offer a basic streaming service for $8 or so a month for the older content (like the free stuff included with Amazon Prime) and for any new TV episodes or new recent movie releases will be a pay per view pricing model. They will have to do it this way, because the studios will not allow Netflix to offer the content any other way. So the future of Netflix will be a bare bones streaming service for $8+ a month and then you can use pay per view for recent content. That's Netflix's future because the control is in the studios hands. With the Netflix DVD mail service, you could at least get new releases via DVD without have to pay per view costs. But since Netflix wants only streaming for the future and shed the dvd-by-mail service , then pay per view is the only option for new content they'll be able to provide. The studios will not have it any other way. So expect a pricing structure very similar to Amazon On Demand for Netflix's future.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
reply to Metatron2008

Re: Awesome

I mean... Qwikster?

Netflix and Mailflix makes so much more sense.

...even Netflix Instant and Netflix?... the we could watch the NI.


EnasYorl
Thieves World

join:2001-12-02
West

Cancelled DVD/Blu-Ray

Cancelled my Qwikster and told them I don't want two sites etc. I liked it because it was one stop shopping.


wings10
I Am Legend
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join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL

???

How does splitting the company address the price increase issue? The CEO apologies and then spits the company and the customer that had both streaming and DVD are still paying the same price increase. All he did was make the customer more upset by now having them create 2 accounts on 2 web sites and have 2 separate bills.

I don't get it?

Well I only have the streaming anyway. Still best a great deal at $7.99.
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
They made the mistake of not announcing both things together. the price increase and splitting up the disc and streaming should have been announced together. It was no secret they wanted to have separate businesses. At the end of Q2 when they talked about the price increase they also talked about how Discs and streaming would be twe separate entities so they could finally breakout the costs and profits for each division. But they made no mention of having two separte websites. Which is what I do not like. It would be fine if they were going to still allow you to easily deal with both queues together like you can now. But that will not be the case.


spewak
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reply to pnh102

Re: New Logo

Maybe you have seen it here before:
»theoatmeal.com/comics/netflix
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SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA
reply to jims2321

Re: Netflix not so smart?

The issue here is the Netflix and the studios seem to be equally cocky and greedy. A perfect match.

I can understand trying to split the DVD business but the did is wrong, VERY wrong.


Subaru
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Greenwich, CT
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reply to ksharp25

Re: Im actually ok with it

never got an email from Netflix..

Speaking of this so what happens if someone stills has streaming AND DVD?


DeathK
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join:2002-06-16
Cincinnati, OH

A lot of people don't seem to get it....



spewak
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reply to Jason Levine

Re: Call it what ever you want I'll still be a customer

said by Jason Levine:

The foulmothed pothead who owns the Twitter handle might care: »gizmodo.com/5841636

I am a pothead, but I take exception at being called "foulmouthed"!
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SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA
reply to Subaru

Re: Im actually ok with it

said by Subaru:

never got an email from Netflix..

Speaking of this so what happens if someone stills has streaming AND DVD?

You pay a alot more.


wings10
I Am Legend
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join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL

????

So in the end people got upset because their price went from $9.99 to $15.99. (I know there are even higher packages). Then the CEO says's I hear your complaints. I am sorry about the increase. Here is what we are going to do.

Streaming is now Netflix $7.99
And DVD is now Qwikster $ 7.99
Total $15.98 a month and now you have to have 2 separate accounts.

So now even more people are upset and the CEO will see yet another 1 million subscribers leave Netflix?

I understand the price increase. But if your sorry then lower the price. He said I am sorry and left the price increase. LOL
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wings10
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South Elgin, IL
reply to Skippy25

Re: What about others

said by Skippy25:

Redbox is already experimenting with raising their prices in some markets.

I guess to please the studios they may charge X for one movie and Y for another as Apple started doing at one point.

Or they may just raise the price for all movies all the time.

I am sure we will soon see the end of the $1 DVD rental.
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Madtown
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join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
reply to 88615298

Re: Blame the correct people

I agree Starz is the blame not Netflix. Too bad the mis-informed doesn't come here to DSLR.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
reply to steven s

Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now?

said by steven s:

Streaming went from free to $8.

That's the problem! If they added streaming, and said "one free stream per month, additional are 50 cents per" that would have been a welcome add-on, use it, don't use it. Then as people used it more and more, offer to add unlimited streaming for $8. For people streaming every day, twice a day (i'm thinking families with multiple tvs) that would be a deal. They set it up as free, and then tried to price it at $8.
Me, I might have streamed 4 in the last year, so I just saved $2/mo going back to DVD only. I'm not upset at all. But, they missed the chance to make a few dollars by not offering me a pay per stream, for the kid, not me, I can wait for next DVD.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
reply to 88615298

Re: now they should pick up

said by 88615298:

who cares. Netflix doesn't care about DVDs. Only 9% of their customers are on DVD only plans. Let them go to Redbox. Saves Netflix money they can use for streaming.

9%? That few? I subscribe because I like the new releases, even at 30 days, I get them pretty quick. The streaming selection seems inferior if you are comparing to the DVD. Is that 9% a published number?


mod_wastrel
iamwhatiam

join:2008-03-28
kudos:1

Availability

At least with the DVDs you've received/requested, you won't have to wait for the site to become available [for streaming] again when it's down... which it is right now... for me, anyway (for about 15 minutes now... and counting).
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ahhnold

join:2003-12-04
Orland Park, IL
reply to fifty nine

Re: You can take physical media out of my cold dead hands

said by fifty nine:

Physical media, unlike streaming can be watched as many times as you wish and can't be pulled at a moment's notice.

The other advantage of physical media is picture quality and multichannel audio. I never liked the overall quality of any streamed content and the lack of multichannel audio are deal breakers for me. Given I don't watch too many movies a month I will stick with Blu-Ray discs.

ohh

join:2011-07-16
San Jose, CA
reply to 88615298

Re: Acceess to rights is the key

said by 88615298:

Hollywood tried to kill off the VCR. Which is why I find this all ironic. Hollywood thinks Netflix is killing off their home video business, but if Hollywood had won and killed off the VCR their home video business wouldn't have ever existed anyways.

Hollywood always thinks some new technology is going to kill their business. First TV then cable TV, then the VCR and EVERYTIME it has done the exact opposite. You'd think after 65 years they would have learned by now.

Unlike back then however if Hollywood think holding onto their content will make people buy DVD they are mistaken. Give people less options and they'll just use torrents and such. Apparently Hollywood wants to turn a whole generation in pirates instead of paying customers. Something the music industry learned far too late and still hasn't recovered from. Hey Hollywood SOMETHING > NOTHING. Simple math.

Yeah, archaic institutions are fucking annoying. They need to get with the times and put movies on the interbutts rather than movie theaters. I dunno about you, but I hate fucking going to theaters. Messiest fucking shitholes to watch a movie. I am sure people would gladly pay the normal ticket price to watch movies from the comfort of their homes.

The music industry is a terrible joke, the artists make more by being their own label. I think I may have more respect for the movie/tv industry.