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Comments on news posted 2011-09-19 08:55:54: Last week Netflix acknowledged that the company's decision to split apart their DVD rental and streaming tiers -- and impose a massive rate hike in the process -- resulted in them losing a million more subscribers than previously predicted. ..

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myerskl

join:2001-05-31
Fairborn, OH

I cancelled my account today

I was going to ride it out but with all the stupid changes heck with them. I don't want two accounts to go back and forth. They picked a bad time of year to do this will all the new TV shows starting.


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join:2004-12-20
Lexington, OK

reply to BF69

Re: Also adding video game rentals

I like the DVD by mail over streaming because I like watching bonus features (when the studios don't decide to remove them from rentals), I also like to be able to have a physical disc so I can then make it possible for me to view that movie at a later time at my convience without having to worry if Netflix or the studios has decided that picticular title is now out of rotation. Also there is like 10x the content on DVD than on Streaming. I have a varied taste in movies, I can watch a blockbuster one day and the next watch something from Peter Greenaway or Lars Von Trier. Both directors I have never seen their titles on streaming.
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albie

join:2002-03-17
Decatur, IL
kudos:1

Netflix's website has become a joke

Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place.


newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1

Netflix has succeeded ...

in pissing off most of their subscribers in one fell swoop, and now they apologise and shoot themselves in the foot, AGAIN?

Who they hell is running the show over there, ex-AT&T Death Star marketing droids?

... and so begins the death spiral.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to Linklist

Re: Netflix betting on future Hollywood may not let them have

The studios and content owners again show how they have zero clue on how to operate a business. but this should not surprise us. Entertainment has always moved at a glacial pace compared to the technology that can carry it.

However the MAFIAA should know that the more they force reasonably priced content out of the way the more they make it seem less immoral to fly the Jolly Rodger and torrent the content instead.
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qworster

join:2001-11-25
Bryn Mawr, PA

BANG!!

That's Netflix shooting themselves in the foot.

Fellas, if it ain't broken don't fix it!!!


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Really Stupid move, and they are being savaged on the Blog

Dumb, Dumb, DUMB.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Brilliant idea for Netflix management! Adopt at once!

I have a brilliant idea! Let's split the service apart further! Let's make DVD's separate from Blu-Ray's, and let's split streaming between standard definition and high definition, and then we can charge people 4 separate times and make each site completely stand-alone! Yeah! Brilliant!

See, I'm FULLY qualified to be CEO.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to Linklist

Re: Netflix not so smart?

They are being savaged on their blog. Rightly so. Nobody likes this move. Not customers, not investors, not pundits.

If they are smart they will back up on this.

.... I don't think they will.
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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reply to albie

Re: Netflix's website has become a joke

said by albie:

Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place.

Reviewers? No one I know that has Netflix ever messed around with that. There was a reason they got rid of it.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to jims2321

Re: Netflix not so smart?

I am going to laugh hard when the studios get their wish of a world without Netflix.

and then suddenly see their piracy numbers skyrocket. of course they will blame the pirates and not their own blundering stupidity of pushing licensing costs beyond greedy when working with Netflix.
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TheFuture

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Netflix streaming will become like Amazon On Demand

What is the future of Netflix streaming? The studios will never let Netflix have recent content and movie releases and offer that for a low monthly unlimited use fee. Never! Netflix will have to move to a pay per view to be able to offer recent material. Just like Vudu or Amazon On Demand does. I'm guessing Netflix will offer a basic streaming service for $8 or so a month for the older content (like the free stuff included with Amazon Prime) and for any new TV episodes or new recent movie releases will be a pay per view pricing model. They will have to do it this way, because the studios will not allow Netflix to offer the content any other way. So the future of Netflix will be a bare bones streaming service for $8+ a month and then you can use pay per view for recent content. That's Netflix's future because the control is in the studios hands. With the Netflix DVD mail service, you could at least get new releases via DVD without have to pay per view costs. But since Netflix wants only streaming for the future and shed the dvd-by-mail service , then pay per view is the only option for new content they'll be able to provide. The studios will not have it any other way. So expect a pricing structure very similar to Amazon On Demand for Netflix's future.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

reply to Metatron2008

Re: Awesome

I mean... Qwikster?

Netflix and Mailflix makes so much more sense.

...even Netflix Instant and Netflix?... the we could watch the NI.


EnasYorl
Thieves World

join:2001-12-02
West

Cancelled DVD/Blu-Ray

Cancelled my Qwikster and told them I don't want two sites etc. I liked it because it was one stop shopping.


wings10
I Am Legend
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South Elgin, IL
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???

How does splitting the company address the price increase issue? The CEO apologies and then spits the company and the customer that had both streaming and DVD are still paying the same price increase. All he did was make the customer more upset by now having them create 2 accounts on 2 web sites and have 2 separate bills.

I don't get it?

Well I only have the streaming anyway. Still best a great deal at $7.99.
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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They made the mistake of not announcing both things together. the price increase and splitting up the disc and streaming should have been announced together. It was no secret they wanted to have separate businesses. At the end of Q2 when they talked about the price increase they also talked about how Discs and streaming would be twe separate entities so they could finally breakout the costs and profits for each division. But they made no mention of having two separte websites. Which is what I do not like. It would be fine if they were going to still allow you to easily deal with both queues together like you can now. But that will not be the case.



spewak
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
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reply to pnh102

Re: New Logo

Maybe you have seen it here before:
»theoatmeal.com/comics/netflix
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SixSpeed

join:2001-12-24
USA

reply to jims2321

Re: Netflix not so smart?

The issue here is the Netflix and the studios seem to be equally cocky and greedy. A perfect match.

I can understand trying to split the DVD business but the did is wrong, VERY wrong.


Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT

reply to ksharp25

Re: Im actually ok with it

never got an email from Netflix..

Speaking of this so what happens if someone stills has streaming AND DVD?


DeathK
Premium
join:2002-06-16
Cincinnati, OH

A lot of people don't seem to get it....

But this guy does: Netflix Spinoff Isn't About DVD Success

A must-read.
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