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| Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? I can see why they did this....long ago they said that streaming was their future, hence 'Net'flix name.......
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Camden, TN | Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? said by N10Cities:I can see why they did this....long ago they said that streaming was their future, hence 'Net'flix name.......
Now, I got to keep track of two accounts instead of one...oh well....still pretty good bang for the buck.....
Well the people that dropped DVD and went with RedBox had 2 account anyways right? | |
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| Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? said by BF69:Well the people that dropped DVD and went with RedBox had 2 account anyways right?
You just have to argue with every single post, don't you? We get it, you like to take the opposite view than everybody else on every single topic in every news article. It's cute, we all get it. Now you can stop.
In response to the OP. Yeah the split did suck, but how realistic was an $8 all you can eat buffet for the long run? I saw a price hike as inevitable. Lets just hope they can get some better content for streaming now. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? said by aciddrink:said by BF69:Well the people that dropped DVD and went with RedBox had 2 account anyways right?
You just have to argue with every single post, don't you? We get it, you like to take the opposite view than everybody else on every single topic in every news article. It's cute, we all get it. Now you can stop. No I'm pointing out how hypocritical some people are being. and I'm not talking about the OP.
In response to the OP. Yeah the split did suck, but how realistic was an $8 all you can eat buffet for the long run? I saw a price hike as inevitable. Lets just hope they can get some better content for streaming now.
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Dearborn, MI | Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? Streaming went from free to $8. | |
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Atlanta, GA | Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? my streaming went from 8 to 8  | |
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Long Beach, CA | Re: Groan......gotta keep track of two accounts, now? me too.
I may get a new Qwikster account for PS3 games.
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| said by steven s:Streaming went from free to $8.
That's the problem! If they added streaming, and said "one free stream per month, additional are 50 cents per" that would have been a welcome add-on, use it, don't use it. Then as people used it more and more, offer to add unlimited streaming for $8. For people streaming every day, twice a day (i'm thinking families with multiple tvs) that would be a deal. They set it up as free, and then tried to price it at $8.
Me, I might have streamed 4 in the last year, so I just saved $2/mo going back to DVD only. I'm not upset at all. But, they missed the chance to make a few dollars by not offering me a pay per stream, for the kid, not me, I can wait for next DVD. | |
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| said by BF69:Thew streaming never got a price increase. So I'm not sure what you were referring too.
True. Come to think of it, it was $8 for streaming and an additional $2 for DVD. So technically no, streaming was not changed. The only people really affected are those that pay for both streaming and DVD, with a $6 increase.
If I recall, a couple years ago it was just $8 for everything...That's probably what I was thinking. | |
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| Well gee. That is one reason why I didn't want to do a Netflix / Blockbuster split didn't want to deal with two accounts. Billed twice two different website to search etc. Guess they have more or less told me to go to blockbuster. Price is same for 1 dvd plus blue-ray so what the hell.
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Now, I got to keep track of two accounts instead of one...oh well....still pretty good bang for the buck.....
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Kansas City, MO | Re: Awesome I mean... Qwikster?
Netflix and Mailflix makes so much more sense.
...even Netflix Instant and Netflix?... the we could watch the NI. | |
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| Netflix not so smart? The biggest reason I think Netflix is going to suffer is that their streaming side lacks current content. This alone will hurt their bottom line. Then the inability to stream if the user is a dvd subscriber. This really is going to impact their business.
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kudos:5 | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by jims2321: This really is going to impact their business.
They are writing off DVD by mail business by renaming it and spinning it off. This is a purely financial move to get that business off the books of Netflix so that as DVD by mail is killed off it won't drag down the Netflix stock price. All the pretty words by Netflix's CEO is nothing but a smokescreen for the investors.
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Camden, TN | said by jims2321:The biggest reason I think Netflix is going to suffer is that their streaming side lacks current content. This alone will hurt their bottom line. Then the inability to stream if the user is a dvd subscriber. This really is going to impact their business. These moves by Netflix will allow them to get more content for streaming. Why people don't get this is beyond me.
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kudos:5 | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by BF69:These moves by Netflix will allow them to get more content for streaming.
You say that, but do you have any proof? All actions so far say Hollywood is intent on drying up their content or raising costs so high that users will abandon Netflix as their prices start doubling and tripling.
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Camden, TN | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by Linklist:said by BF69:These moves by Netflix will allow them to get more content for streaming.
You say that, but do you have any proof? All actions so far say Hollywood is intent on drying up their content or raising costs so high that users will abandon Netflix as their prices start doubling and tripling. Sure. Before the "price increase" 1 DVD at a time and streaming was $10. So basically people were getting up to 10 DVDs a month delivered for $2 a month. That's a loss leader. That money saved can be used for streaming content. Also they project 800K fewer DVD only subscibers. Ok that 's fewer DVDs that need to be bought fewer red envelopes to be bought, less postage to be paid. Once again that money saved can be used to acquire more streaming content. | |
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| Re: Netflix not so smart? said by BF69:said by Linklist:said by BF69:These moves by Netflix will allow them to get more content for streaming.
You say that, but do you have any proof? All actions so far say Hollywood is intent on drying up their content or raising costs so high that users will abandon Netflix as their prices start doubling and tripling. Sure. Before the "price increase" 1 DVD at a time and streaming was $10. So basically people were getting up to 10 DVDs a month delivered for $2 a month. That's a loss leader. That money saved can be used for streaming content. Also they project 800K fewer DVD only subscibers. Ok that 's fewer DVDs that need to be bought fewer red envelopes to be bought, less postage to be paid. Once again that money saved can be used to acquire more streaming content. You keep rehashing the Netflix CEO's rantings! Look where it has put them. They split the company. Their stock nosedived. The Industry wants to kill Netflix. If you and Reed don't see that yet, it is back to Business 101 for the lot of ya!
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Camden, TN | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by spewak:You keep rehashing the Netflix CEO's rantings! Look where it has put them. They split the company. Their stock nosedived. The Industry wants to kill Netflix. If you and Reed don't see that yet, it is back to Business 101 for the lot of ya!
So renting 8 DVDs a month per customer for $2 is a viable business solution. Yeah ok business guru.
Stick nosedived because investors are morons. | |
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Now what will they use to negotiate with the studios who see any streaming as a threat to DVD sales?
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Camden, TN | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by Jason Levine:What you're ignoring is that, before the split, Netflix used their DVD service to negotiate with studios. They agreed to a 30 day DVD waiting period and, in return, got more streaming titles (and reduced DVD prices).
Now what will they use to negotiate with the studios who see any streaming as a threat to DVD sales?
Streaming isn't the threat for newer movies. Not yet anyways. It's Netflix and Redbox allwoing DVD rentals for $1 or less. Back when video stores existed and charged $5 for a DVD some people said "heck for another $10 I can own the thing". Also the studios made more money from videos stores that charged $5 than when Netflix/Redbox charges $1. | |
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They've consistently held back on allowing Netflix to stream recent titles. The Starz deal was a bit of a loophole that Netflix exploited. The studios hated it but couldn't do much about it. When the Starz deal ends, Netflix will need to ask the studios individually to allow them to stream recent movies. When that happens, Netflix will be at the studios' mercy as to what they get allowed to stream and at what price.
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Both sides are going to take a hit. Though Netflix looks to be trying to forcing the studios' hands. Well we are not going to be buying anymore DVDs which is a decrease in your pocket of millions, though we have this streaming service over here where you can make up some of that money. | |
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| said by jims2321:The biggest reason I think Netflix is going to suffer is that their streaming side lacks current content. This alone will hurt their bottom line. Then the inability to stream if the user is a dvd subscriber. This really is going to impact their business.
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I don't think that their streaming content will get better anytime soon. People will realize that $8 is a waste for the same old rehashed content.
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Camden, TN | Re: Netflix not so smart? said by spewak:said by jims2321:The biggest reason I think Netflix is going to suffer is that their streaming side lacks current content. This alone will hurt their bottom line. Then the inability to stream if the user is a dvd subscriber. This really is going to impact their business.
To add: I don't think that their streaming content will get better anytime soon. People will realize that $8 is a waste for the same old rehashed content. Netflix was ready to give Starz $250 mil a year for a new deal. That $250 mil will buy a lot of content from someone else. And not all of Netflix content is old. Heck I just watched the Expendables and The Fighter on Netflix streaming and no it's wasn't Starz Play either. It was regular Netflix and in HD unlike Starz movies. | |
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Stock down another 5% today and down about 50% since mid July: » finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NFLX···ndefinedTheir CEO is apologizing because the board is going to toss his butt on the street soon if the stock keeps dropping. Even in his apology he seems indifferent and cocky.
F him. I dropped them. | |
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Tulsa, OK | They are being savaged on their blog. Rightly so. Nobody likes this move. Not customers, not investors, not pundits.
If they are smart they will back up on this.
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | I am going to laugh hard when the studios get their wish of a world without Netflix.
and then suddenly see their piracy numbers skyrocket. of course they will blame the pirates and not their own blundering stupidity of pushing licensing costs beyond greedy when working with Netflix.
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I can understand trying to split the DVD business but the did is wrong, VERY wrong. | |
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Woodbridge, VA | Re: New Logo Ha, I was thinking that too. That's what happens when you have kids I guess. | |
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I can also show movie for the kids on a long road trip where there is no net access for miles. Not to mention if I have no net access at home (cable will probably be out too) that I can pop in a disc and still watch a movie.
Those two are the biggest reasons I will continue to buy content on physical media.
Sure, streaming is convenient but physical media still has quite a few advantages. | |
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Orland Park, IL | Re: You can take physical media out of my cold dead hands said by fifty nine:Physical media, unlike streaming can be watched as many times as you wish and can't be pulled at a moment's notice. The other advantage of physical media is picture quality and multichannel audio. I never liked the overall quality of any streamed content and the lack of multichannel audio are deal breakers for me. Given I don't watch too many movies a month I will stick with Blu-Ray discs. | |
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kudos:5 |  Netflix betting on future Hollywood may not let them have
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While the move is being lamented in the media as a failure before it even begins, it simply signals that Netflix sees the future and plans to focus on what future subscribers will want -- before many even realize they want it.
But will Hollywood let Netflix get to where it says users want to go? Netflix is putting itself at the mercy of the MPAA and so far the MPAA wants to see Netflix die. By betting its future on streaming, Netflix just handed its fate over to the Hollywood studios.
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But I digress. Is it really necessary to come up with a dumb name.... any dumb name... just so you have the honor of something that sounds similar?
At least be a bit more recent and call yourself "iQwik" or "FaceDisc" or well to be honest just about any name you could possibly think of would be better than "Qwikster." | |
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| Re: Napster died how many years ago? It sounds like they didn't put 30 seconds thought into the new name. Why not call it BearFrostLimeSter?
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| Cancelled I have been questioning Netflix with the cost hike and all but this was the over the top decision. I have now cancelled and I will not be alone from the comments I have heard and read on his blog... I will just keep my basic cable and watch the commercials, it's only $10 / more a month vs just having internet... | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Cancelled said by Screavics:I have been questioning Netflix with the cost hike and all but this was the over the top decision. I have now cancelled and I will not be alone from the comments I have heard and read on his blog... I will just keep my basic cable and watch the commercials, it's only $10 / more a month vs just having internet...
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| Re: Cancelled Yeah I thought about streaming only but their selection is so limited. I can only watch a show so many times before I get sick of it for awhile. It would probably be good if I had kids because there is a lot of kids movies but just not enough other shows and movies to peak my interest to stay. Heck I wouldn't even mind if they loaded the on demand catalog down with older movies. | |
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Camden, TN | Also adding video game rentals No one has brought his up. I've only had streaming never saw the value of renting DVD by mail. Video games would be different. So depending on pricing I might actually get the disc rental now. Hmmm more money for Netflix. Yep Netflix is sure being dumb. | |
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| Re: Also adding video game rentals said by BF69:No one has brought his up. I've only had streaming never saw the value of renting DVD by mail. Video games would be different. So depending on pricing I might actually get the disc rental now. Hmmm more money for Netflix. Yep Netflix is sure being dumb.
But they could have added games at any time, without the price hike (but with an extra fee, as they seem to be indicating now) and certainly without the confusing/aliening name change and account changes.
This is a true "no-brainer" as in WTF?
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Camden, TN | Re: Also adding video game rentals said by tshirt:said by BF69:No one has brought his up. I've only had streaming never saw the value of renting DVD by mail. Video games would be different. So depending on pricing I might actually get the disc rental now. Hmmm more money for Netflix. Yep Netflix is sure being dumb.
But they could have added games at any time, without the price hike Oh so netflix should still be renting up to 10 DVDs a month per customer for $2 month? How is that a sustainable business model? | |
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| Re: Also adding video game rentals Not at all!
I think (as I said in many other threads) that I belive that some price hike was inevitable and justified (I would have structured and announced it somewhat differently) and games should add a another $4-12 depending on available titles (maybe $7.99 per month , they seem to like that #)
I do think the price hike announcement was less than perfect, and was VERY poorly recieved. (I couldn't figure out why people quit (or claimed to) right away, they had already paid for the rest of the month (NF ToS says NO refunds) my price hike still hasn't taken place (next week is the quit/bill date for me, IF I was planning too).
However this, smells like a panic response (Board says ",DO something!) that was ill planned, basicly in the last 2+ months netflix has"shocked" many of their loyal subs with
Large price increase.
starZ play ends in 6 months
ill announced/explained spinoff, namechange, account changes?
Sound like 3 ways to panic/confuse/wakeup/scare off both existing and future customers, and they did them all at once
and little explaination directly to average joe customer from NETFLIX (most has been fluff for stockholders and the press about how they are changing to improve their business) though pundits have added plenty of hype on both sides of the story.
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Lexington, OK | I like the DVD by mail over streaming because I like watching bonus features (when the studios don't decide to remove them from rentals), I also like to be able to have a physical disc so I can then make it possible for me to view that movie at a later time at my convience without having to worry if Netflix or the studios has decided that picticular title is now out of rotation. Also there is like 10x the content on DVD than on Streaming. I have a varied taste in movies, I can watch a blockbuster one day and the next watch something from Peter Greenaway or Lars Von Trier. Both directors I have never seen their titles on streaming.
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| My thoughts - if anyone cares I personally cancelled the dvd subscription mostly because I was not getting enough out of it anyway. I like Netflix and there are a lot of movies that my kids like to watch on there. There is still a ton of stuff that I have not ever seen and I will eventually caught up. If I do find something that I really like, I will probably by it on DVD or Blu-ray at Walmart.
So I don't care about the waiting time for new stuff. It used to take 12 months or more to see movies released to VHS. Why is everyone in such a hurry? It seems so strange to see movies go straight to media in under a month.
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| What about others People say the "Industry" is trying to kill Netflix by raising the cost for them to do business with all the major studios.
But then why don't they go after Red Box and Blockbuster as well?
Why do they all hate Netflix?
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| Removing Value This split was telegraphed over a year ago. Over a year ago they started removing DVD queue management from iOS applications and other little changes followed separating the two.
Now they are removing the links between the DVD and streaming queues. For me this was one of the great values that Netflix had. I could put something into my DVD queue, and if it became available for streaming, I would know.
Also, since I am terrible at remembering what films we've seen, I was foolishly using Netflix for this. I guess that I'll have to find some other way to do this.
Hastings disingenuous tone in both his personalized email, and his comments on his blog post don't do him any favors.
No matter his business rationale, this split removes value for me. We were just about to cut our cable subscription, but after these changes, I am reconsidering. | |
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I never subscribed to the DVD parts at all anyway as I seen it as a waste of my money when I could stream,although current releases on Streaming would be nice. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: I got emailed the Explaination said by Tweakbl:I got emailed the Explaination From Netflix.
I never subscribed to the DVD parts at all anyway as I seen it as a waste of my money when I could stream,although current releases on Streaming would be nice.
You won't see that at $8 a month. Hollywood won't allow it. | |
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Santa Monica, CA | Hysterical, indeed The 1 million figure is but a projection, not historical fact. It hasn't happened yet.
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Douglasville, GA | Call it what ever you want I'll still be a customer I am one of the million who dropped streaming. However, I went from 1 DVD to 2 DVDs by mail.
Goofy name but who cares. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Call it what ever you want I'll still be a customer said by SysOp:I am one of the million who dropped streaming. However, I went from 1 DVD to 2 DVDs by mail.
Goofy name but who cares.
A million did not drop streaming. And you gave Netflix more money on the DVD side. | |
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When I came across an article pointing that out, I was instantly wondering why the marketing department didn't dig a little bit more on the name. Now I'm wondering: 1-how is the view count for that particular twitter account and 2- how much money is Netflix going to pay to get the account shutdown or bought? | |
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kudos:2 | said by SysOp:I am one of the million who dropped streaming. However, I went from 1 DVD to 2 DVDs by mail.
Goofy name but who cares.
Same here... although I didn't drop streaming, as I had dropped DVDs last year. There aren't that many movies I can't wait to see anymore.
I'll keep Netflix to spite the corporate moguls, if nothing else.
Edit: The "same here" comment refers to the subject that was dropped, about "I'll still be a customer". | |
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kudos:22 | Acceess to rights is the key Remember that Netflix just lost access to a big library of content from Starz (sp?).
By splitting the 2, it allows Netflix to wage a war on one side to get rights without affecting the other side's access to content.
My new sony vcr allows me to rent sony pictures at $5.99 a shot. Great integration with internet connected vcrs (ok, it is a blue ray player bit I still call it a vcr
But Sony would rather I do business with them directly at a higher price than do business with Netflix.
Netflix did manage to build its brand before hollywood woke up and saw it as a threath. Same with YouTube. I am betting they are planning to survive long enough until Hollywood begins to accept and support this.
What is likely to happen though is that while Hollywood will reluctantly agree to a reduction of their profit margins, they will probably force Netflix to raise prices.
Hollywood doesn't want to kill off DVD/BD sales even though they will go the way of teh CD. People will only buy blue rays for movies that are worth keeping (big stuff like star wars, avatar etc). | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Acceess to rights is the key said by jfmezei:Remember that Netflix just lost access to a big library of content from Starz (sp?). They haven't lost anything from Starz. Starz content is still on Netflix until February. Before then Netflix will write a nice big check to Starz and everything will be kosher. | |
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Camden, TN | Hollywood tried to kill off the VCR. Which is why I find this all ironic. Hollywood thinks Netflix is killing off their home video business, but if Hollywood had won and killed off the VCR their home video business wouldn't have ever existed anyways.
Hollywood always thinks some new technology is going to kill their business. First TV then cable TV, then the VCR and EVERYTIME it has done the exact opposite. You'd think after 65 years they would have learned by now.
Unlike back then however if Hollywood think holding onto their content will make people buy DVD they are mistaken. Give people less options and they'll just use torrents and such. Apparently Hollywood wants to turn a whole generation in pirates instead of paying customers. Something the music industry learned far too late and still hasn't recovered from. Hey Hollywood SOMETHING > NOTHING. Simple math. | |
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San Jose, CA | Re: Acceess to rights is the key said by BF69:Hollywood tried to kill off the VCR. Which is why I find this all ironic. Hollywood thinks Netflix is killing off their home video business, but if Hollywood had won and killed off the VCR their home video business wouldn't have ever existed anyways.
Hollywood always thinks some new technology is going to kill their business. First TV then cable TV, then the VCR and EVERYTIME it has done the exact opposite. You'd think after 65 years they would have learned by now.
Unlike back then however if Hollywood think holding onto their content will make people buy DVD they are mistaken. Give people less options and they'll just use torrents and such. Apparently Hollywood wants to turn a whole generation in pirates instead of paying customers. Something the music industry learned far too late and still hasn't recovered from. Hey Hollywood SOMETHING > NOTHING. Simple math.
Yeah, archaic institutions are fucking annoying. They need to get with the times and put movies on the interbutts rather than movie theaters. I dunno about you, but I hate fucking going to theaters. Messiest fucking shitholes to watch a movie. I am sure people would gladly pay the normal ticket price to watch movies from the comfort of their homes.
The music industry is a terrible joke, the artists make more by being their own label. I think I may have more respect for the movie/tv industry. | |
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| | It's a scam to make us subscribe twice! Hey Reed,
How about making more movies available for streaming?
Every movie I look for says it's only available on DVD!!!! | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: It's a scam to make us subscribe twice! said by ArizonaSteve:Hey Reed,
How about making more movies available for streaming?
Every movie I look for says it's only available on DVD!!!!
blame the studios not Netflix. This will require MUCH more money from Netflix. Money they could only get by raising prcies. Prices people are now bitching about. You can't have it both ways. | |
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| | Im actually ok with it I actually accept the 'apology' even though they are not calling it that in the email I got. It explains to me anyway very clearly what they intend to do and why they did. Now, had they said all of this prior to the price change announcement, how many people would be fired up by that and touting 60% price hike complaints. I suspect that had you been told why the price is going that way and that the company is splitting and for that offering video game rentals now as well with the DVD mailing business model..youd be ok with the change. I am. Not enough to re-sign for a combo disc and streaming I am pure streaming..
That said...they have a long way to go on streaming side to win me over on it being worth the $8 a month. And the second they start getting big name content back if that price starts inching up more and more...im out. But the loss of Starz was the closest thing to somewhat relevant content they had going for them.
My point is this. If Netflix is to survive as a streaming service, I need more than Japanese cartoons, tired old low rated TV series (for the most part), horrible weak-sauce B movies and documentaries no one cares about. I dont care if I have to wait 60 days etc like others, but get me relevant AAA content....still for only $8-10 a month. Or Im out. Period. Not paying $25-45 a month just to get what everyone wants and dreams for Netflix to be (which is the price the industry would love) | |
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| BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | Re: Im actually ok with it said by ksharp25:My point is this. If Netflix is to survive as a streaming service, I need more than Japanese cartoons, tired old low rated TV series (for the most part), horrible weak-sauce B movies and documentaries no one cares about. I dont care if I have to wait 60 days etc like others, but get me relevant AAA content....still for only $8-10 a month. Or Im out. Period. Not paying $25-45 a month just to get what everyone wants and dreams for Netflix to be (which is the price the industry would love) you're not getting newer movies for $8-$10 a month it isn't happening. That is fantasy talk. You want movies 60 days after DVD release and Netflix only charge $10 a month max. Well let's do math. $10 X 24 million X 12 months is $2.88 billion a year. That is not enough money to pay the studios to get movies 60 days after DVD release.
Hell Starz wanted $300 mil per year for their movies which are a year old at least AND they only wanted it to be for customers that had BOTH the streams and DVD package. Which meant streaming only customers like me would have been left out of the cold. Should Netflix have made this deal? I'm glad they didn't. As I said this is for movies that have been out a year or more. Imagine what 60 day old movies would cost. | |
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| | | said by ksharp25:My point is this. If Netflix is to survive as a streaming service, I need more than Japanese cartoons, tired old low rated TV series (for the most part), horrible weak-sauce B movies and documentaries no one cares about. I dont care if I have to wait 60 days etc like others, but get me relevant AAA content....still for only $8-10 a month. Or Im out. Period. Not paying $25-45 a month just to get what everyone wants and dreams for Netflix to be (which is the price the industry would love)
You wont get it. They are actually losing content much faster then they are gaining.
Starz content is gone as are many TV episodes.
Netflix streaming is garbage, plain and simple. | |
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|  Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | never got an email from Netflix..
Speaking of this so what happens if someone stills has streaming AND DVD? | |
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| | | | Re: Im actually ok with it said by Subaru:never got an email from Netflix..
Speaking of this so what happens if someone stills has streaming AND DVD?
You pay a alot more. | |
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