  DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
kudos:78 | now they should pick up Redbox for the win, or redbox can pick them up.
The video store of the future. | |
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 |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: now they should pick up said by David:Redbox for the win, or redbox can pick them up.
The video store of the future.
who cares. Netflix doesn't care about DVDs. Only 9% of their customers are on DVD only plans. Let them go to Redbox. Saves Netflix money they can use for streaming. | |
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| |  joetaxpayerI'M Here Till Thursday
join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
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| Re: now they should pick up said by BF69:who cares. Netflix doesn't care about DVDs. Only 9% of their customers are on DVD only plans. Let them go to Redbox. Saves Netflix money they can use for streaming.
9%? That few? I subscribe because I like the new releases, even at 30 days, I get them pretty quick. The streaming selection seems inferior if you are comparing to the DVD. Is that 9% a published number? | |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
·KCH Cable
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| don't care I only ever signed up for Netflix in order to get streaming. Sure, I tried blu-ray for an extra buck, but I still mostly kept discs for weeks/months at a time because I didn't care.
If they can ever get more content, it'd be nice. They've been at this for years, and still have a rather limited selection.
In comparison, Rhapsody and Spotify have a large swath of music available to stream. The comparison with Netflix and online movie selection is not worth making at this point.
There really is no sensible reason to keep perpetuating physical releases or DRM encumbered iTunes/Amazon/etc. purchases as the ONLY way to watch movies at home. I'm not counting "on demand" because that obviously has its place as well. More people would 'rent' (stream) more often, and there would be more profit in the long run. Hopefully someday, the studios, the producers, and the ISPs "get it."
For now, we're left with capped internet service that has NO reason to exist, fearful greedy studios, and a company (Netflix) that is trying to sell people something they want to pay for, but can only get a taste of.
Oh well, while they're spinning things off/restructuring, can somebody please tell them that their website is rather terrible  | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Blame the correct people blame the content holders not Netflix for all of this
Starz wanted $300 mil per year for their movies which are a year old at least AND they only wanted it to be for customers that had BOTH the streaming and DVD packages.
Netflix offered $250 mil and wanted everyone to have access. Now even if Starz took the $250 mil that's $220 mil per year increase over what Netflix is currently paying. Now where is Netflix going to get an extra $220 mil a year without increasing pricing somehwere? And this is just for Starz this doens't even mention their other deals that are soon to expire and newer deals Netflix wants to do.
Now Netflix can take the $250 mil they wer going to give Starz and put it to getting content from somewhere else. So fuck Starz. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO everyone wants to blame Netflix. Starz gets a free pass even though THEY are being greedy assholes. | |
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| | | Re: Blame the correct people said by BF69:blame the content holders not Netflix for all of this
Now Netflix can take the $250 mil they wer going to give Starz and put it to getting content from somewhere else. So fuck Starz. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO everyone wants to blame Netflix. Starz gets a free pass even though THEY are being greedy assholes.
Apologies if my previous post didnt make that clear, but yes, I agree. This is where my anger has been for years. Netflix was something great that has to get ruined and will probably die because of them. | |
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| slckusrPremium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
kudos:1 | bf69 do you work for netflix or what? | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Blame the correct people said by slckusr:bf69 do you work for netflix or what?
No just educating the uneducated. I believe an INFORMED populace is a good thing. | |
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| MadtownPremium
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA | I agree Starz is the blame not Netflix. Too bad the mis-informed doesn't come here to DSLR. | |
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| | This seems too sudden... Netflix just hiked up their price rates for dual DVD/ streaming service and separated both into separate packages. And just when customers were getting used to this, now they're making them separate providers? Confusion, much? | |
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| | | Re: This seems too sudden... Why didn't they announce these two changes (the rate change and the name change) at the same time? It would have been more understandable. | |
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| | | | Re: This seems too sudden... They got a larger backlash than expected. Stock is taking a beating. Need to spin off one of them to please stockholders. Look for Qwister to be totally separate company in future. | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by PastTense:Why didn't they announce these two changes (the rate change and the name change) at the same time? It would have been more understandable.
That's why the dude is apologizing. He say he fucked up by not doing that. Did you even READ the apology? | |
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| | Netflix Splits Off DVD Rentals, Calls It 'Qwikster' Seems to me the name for the slower-to-get mail service should be "Slowster" and the name of the streaming service "Faster" or "Immediatster" or "Streamster".
Otherwise leave the mail service as Netflix and the streaming service Quikster | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Netflix Splits Off DVD Rentals, Calls It 'Qwikster' said by Streetlight:Seems to me the name for the slower-to-get mail service should be "Slowster" and the name of the streaming service "Faster" or "Immediatster" or "Streamster".
Otherwise leave the mail service as Netflix and the streaming service Quikster
except MILLIONS of streaming devices have NETFLIX on them. | |
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| | Streaming "future?" Seeing as how their streaming selection is the pits, and they keep losing streaming providers including movies and TV episodes, the "future" isn't looking good.
Right after the price hike, Starz pulled their content.
Netflix is getting too greedy.
I dumped them all together. | |
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| | | Re: Streaming "future?" Like i said in one of my other posts about NFLX. The studios/Hollywood/Cable Co were waiting for the day they could sock it too Netflix. The first blow was adding caps to users/cord cutters, hoping they would flee away from HD/Online content etc. Then Starz which sent everything spiraling downward from there. Netflix new this was going to be the case with news like this. So before hand, they decided to restructure their pricing to cap revenue losses due to all the bad news they had coming their way. They knew the backlash of the news to come would be horrible for them. So let's jack up the pricing and recoup our losses with the ones that stay. They also knew the bandwidth caps were going to be killer and that the studios/Hollywood/Cable CO was after their throats. I can go on and on about the obvious. Truth is...Netflix will be sold within the next 18 months to one of the studios/Hollywood/Cable CO and then you can guarantee the pricing heads upwards to cable TV prices ALONG WITH YOU STILL BEING CAPPED and paying overage. STUDIOS/HOLLYWOOD/CABLE CO WIN...CONSUMERS LOOSE | |
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join:2000-12-30
Sedro Woolley, WA | Re: Streaming "future?" You are so right. It's always the same unhappy ending. | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Whatever they candy-coat the name its *still* a 60% price increase! | |
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| | I cancelled my account today I was going to ride it out but with all the stupid changes heck with them. I don't want two accounts to go back and forth. They picked a bad time of year to do this will all the new TV shows starting. | |
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albie
join:2002-03-17
Decatur, IL
kudos:1 | Netflix's website has become a joke Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place. | |
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|  aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FiOS
| Re: Netflix's website has become a joke said by albie:Netflix does not have a clue. They were very successful but they had no clue to why they were successful. Amazon.com is successful because it provides lots of product information as well as customer reviews. Amazon understands that one of the advantages of online retailing is providing information. The current Netflix website is a skeleton to what it once was. I stayed with the streaming and did not subscribe to the DVD's. Netflix earlier this year did much injury to their community by no longer allowing reviewers to be identified. I visited the website today and they have dealt their website a death blow. There is no information. If you click on a director it now only shows what films that director has on instant viewing. I formerly enjoyed Netflix Instant viewing because you could find some good out of the mainstream non-commerical cinema by clicking and researching the wealth of information that could be had on their site. To find any out of the way gems that there may be on Netflix Instant viewing now requires too much work because one has to travel to other movies databases such as Imdb or TCM. The demise of Netflix will not be about the demise of DVD's as a delivery system for content or the problem with content providers, their wounds will be self-inflicted because they never fully understood their success in the first place.
Reviewers? No one I know that has Netflix ever messed around with that. There was a reason they got rid of it. | |
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 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | Netflix has succeeded ... in pissing off most of their subscribers in one fell swoop, and now they apologise and shoot themselves in the foot, AGAIN?
Who they hell is running the show over there, ex-AT&T Death Star marketing droids?
... and so begins the death spiral. | |
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| | BANG!! That's Netflix shooting themselves in the foot.
Fellas, if it ain't broken don't fix it!!! | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Really Stupid move, and they are being savaged on the Blog Dumb, Dumb, DUMB. | |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Brilliant idea for Netflix management! Adopt at once! I have a brilliant idea! Let's split the service apart further! Let's make DVD's separate from Blu-Ray's, and let's split streaming between standard definition and high definition, and then we can charge people 4 separate times and make each site completely stand-alone! Yeah! Brilliant!
See, I'm FULLY qualified to be CEO.
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| | Netflix streaming will become like Amazon On Demand What is the future of Netflix streaming? The studios will never let Netflix have recent content and movie releases and offer that for a low monthly unlimited use fee. Never! Netflix will have to move to a pay per view to be able to offer recent material. Just like Vudu or Amazon On Demand does. I'm guessing Netflix will offer a basic streaming service for $8 or so a month for the older content (like the free stuff included with Amazon Prime) and for any new TV episodes or new recent movie releases will be a pay per view pricing model. They will have to do it this way, because the studios will not allow Netflix to offer the content any other way. So the future of Netflix will be a bare bones streaming service for $8+ a month and then you can use pay per view for recent content. That's Netflix's future because the control is in the studios hands. With the Netflix DVD mail service, you could at least get new releases via DVD without have to pay per view costs. But since Netflix wants only streaming for the future and shed the dvd-by-mail service , then pay per view is the only option for new content they'll be able to provide. The studios will not have it any other way. So expect a pricing structure very similar to Amazon On Demand for Netflix's future. | |
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 EnasYorlThieves World
join:2001-12-02
West | Cancelled DVD/Blu-Ray Cancelled my Qwikster and told them I don't want two sites etc. I liked it because it was one stop shopping. | |
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 wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL
·AT&T DSL Service
·AT&T U-Verse
| ??? How does splitting the company address the price increase issue? The CEO apologies and then spits the company and the customer that had both streaming and DVD are still paying the same price increase. All he did was make the customer more upset by now having them create 2 accounts on 2 web sites and have 2 separate bills.
I don't get it?
Well I only have the streaming anyway. Still best a great deal at $7.99.
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| aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| Re: ??? They made the mistake of not announcing both things together. the price increase and splitting up the disc and streaming should have been announced together. It was no secret they wanted to have separate businesses. At the end of Q2 when they talked about the price increase they also talked about how Discs and streaming would be twe separate entities so they could finally breakout the costs and profits for each division. But they made no mention of having two separte websites. Which is what I do not like. It would be fine if they were going to still allow you to easily deal with both queues together like you can now. But that will not be the case. | |
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wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service
·AT&T U-Verse
| ???? So in the end people got upset because their price went from $9.99 to $15.99. (I know there are even higher packages). Then the CEO says's I hear your complaints. I am sorry about the increase. Here is what we are going to do.
Streaming is now Netflix $7.99
And DVD is now Qwikster $ 7.99
Total $15.98 a month and now you have to have 2 separate accounts.
So now even more people are upset and the CEO will see yet another 1 million subscribers leave Netflix?
I understand the price increase. But if your sorry then lower the price. He said I am sorry and left the price increase. LOL
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