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Comments on news posted 2011-10-04 17:51:50: A Belgian court has overturned a 2010 ruling stating that forcing ISPs to block The Pirate Bay for copyright violations was “disproportionate. ..

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Linklist
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Financial incentive to use more than DNS block

With big fines facing the ISPs involved, maybe they will use something other than a plain vanilla DNS block. How about them changing routing tables in the ISPs routers to black hole the IP addresses involved. And then also block all the proxy servers they can find.
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kxrm

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Fort Worth, TX

Might as well block the internet.



Jpres13

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+1 to kxrm
There is no easy way to accomplish this. There are too many ways around too many of the possible fixes. VPN, proxies, etc, anyone determined enough to get to that website will still be able to, regardless of what the ISP puts in place (read: Determined)


Kearnstd
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Blocking does not work...

Just ask China how well blocking websites is working.

If Hollywood where smart they would ignore P2P Piracy and go and push as much backing as possible behind Netflix and Similar services.

Content when you want it with no regional restrictions period would be the optimal way to do things., at a reasonable price all at one website. and that will solve your most evident piracy issues.
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BF69
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said by Kearnstd:

Just ask China how well blocking websites is working.

If Hollywood where smart they would ignore P2P Piracy and go and push as much backing as possible behind Netflix and Similar services.

Content when you want it with no regional restrictions period would be the optimal way to do things., at a reasonable price all at one website. and that will solve your most evident piracy issues.

They would back Netflix if Netflix charged $25 a month and gave them half the money.

Amazon, Vudu and Itunes all stream and Hollywood has no issues with them because they charge PER MOVE. Anywhere from $3-$6, depending on quality( SD or HD ). Hollywood hasn't figured out many people think $6 is too much for a movie rental or $15 is to much for a DVD that might get watched once or twice and comes loaded with DRM.


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reply to Kearnstd
That's too simple, they could never do that. No they're stuck in an old world business model and can't see past that.

Blockbuster is gone, so much for one of their largest sellers of product. Mom and Pop video stores are gone because of Blockbuster.. now what?
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Oleg
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reply to Linklist

Re: Financial incentive to use more than DNS block

Well there is always VPN option to consider.


DataRiker
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reply to Jpres13
A simple free proxy would do the trick.



fuziwuzi
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reply to Linklist

said by Linklist:

With big fines facing the ISPs involved, maybe they will use something other than a plain vanilla DNS block. How about them changing routing tables in the ISPs routers to black hole the IP addresses involved. And then also block all the proxy servers they can find.

You would love the internet in China.
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maartena
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This is futile.

They blocked Piratebay in Denmark, and according to Piratebay themselves there is no change in traffic (actually, I think they mentioned there was an increase) from Danish IP addresses.

People just use OpenDNS instead of their ISP's website, ot visit one of the dozens (if not hundreds) of other torrent sites that mirror-publish the PB tracker, and/or add their own tracker to the torrent. As the article already states, these kind of blocks are easy to navigate around, and won't stop piracy one bit.

Here we see the Belgian copyright hunters, taking YEARS to get 1 website blocked, and from what happened in Denmark, it will probably increase traffic to the site now that it has got media attention. Over the years we have seen it time and time again.... some copyright organization spends millions in legal fees to get one site taken down, and 10 others have already popped up.

Furthermore, P2P with encryption is slowly starting to gain some ground. It needs more users to get more speed, but projects like I2P (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P) are starting to become used more and more. If the industry really continues on the warpath, they will find that P2P will move and fight back.

The industry should really focus on DRM-free media for an affordable price. I don't want to be told I can't make a copy of that DVD for the backseat of the car, and that I HAVE to leave my originals in the baking California summer sun when we go on road trips, and I don't want to be told I can't rip my favorite CD's to MP3 so I can listen to them in the car, and I certainly don't want to be told I can't take 20 movies on my laptop when traveling to Europe, and that I have to lug along 20 original blu-rays.

As long as the industry just doesn't get that.... Piracy will simply prevail. They are continuously shooting themselves in the foot by protecting their media, with protections that will have been cracked within weeks of the first media hitting the market. Music and Video are not GAMES you have to activate (hence the success of steam).

But the industry is probably never going to change.
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hilarious

There's a better chance of eradicating stink bugs than doing anything about the pirate bay. Remember all the times they were "shut down" before? How are those working out?

»The Pirate Bay Found Guilty
»Pirate Bay Gets Yanked Offline
There are tons of other examples of similar failures.
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nitzan
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reply to elwoodblues

Re: Blocking does not work...

said by elwoodblues:

Blockbuster is gone, so much for one of their largest sellers of product. Mom and Pop video stores are gone because of Blockbuster.. now what?

Pirate Bay.

Seriously though, video-on-demand is the future. Hollywood can get behind that and push something that makes them money (but not $3 a movie...) or they can keep filing lawsuits while millions of people ditch the paid avenues and just pirate because it's way more convenient than the paid options. It's not even about the money - it's just MORE CONVENIENT.

sk1939
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Irony

Ironic that this has happened because according to Pirate Bay, a significant portion of their users in Belgium stem from IP addresses belonging to the European Parliament or EUROPA in Brussels.

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