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Comments on news posted 2011-10-24 18:10:09: AT&T is trying to salvage their plan to acquire T-Mobile by proposing an alternative that involves offloading assets to a smaller company like MetroPCS. ..

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Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
united state

Would be better than at&t

But that's like saying getting a cold is better then being kicked in the nuts.



corster
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join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC

Not to mention

The spectrum T-Mobile gets from AT&Fee as compensation should the deal fall through...
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

Clearwire is a

dead end. They should just sell off their spectrum assets to Sprint and get out of the business
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA

question is: will clear keep "unlimited" 4g

now that Sprint has decided to kill unlimited data?


AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
reply to Jim_in_VA

Re: Clearwire is a

I can't believe I'm saying, but I would rather Comcast or Time Warner buy T-Mobile than Sprint. Nothing against Sprint per se, but they have their own issues they still need to work out.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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Sprint buying T-Mobile would be worst than their failed Nextel purchase. Two totally different technologies GSM vs CDMA .. don't want to go there again
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HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

If you actually read the slides from the Sprint conference earlier this month (October), you would have seen that Sprint intends to build LTE using T-Mobile's current spectrum.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

source?



HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

»www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-content/···x430.jpg

Doesn't T-Mobile run its GSM network on 1900 MHz?

Original article: »www.bgr.com/2011/10/07/live-from···e-event/



HaloFans

join:2006-12-18
reply to chgo_man99

Re: question is: will clear keep "unlimited" 4g

So much FUD.

It's no secret that for tethering, Sprint always had an invisible cap around 5GB. The press confirms that it's true.

The data is still unlimited for smartphone use.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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reply to HaloFans

Re: Clearwire is a

yes it does, however GSM and CDMA are not compatible
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HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

No, they are not.

You do see now why Sprint is angry at the merger.

However, that bitterness doesn't translate that AT&T is any better. You know AT&T was given a lot of money from tax breaks to build fiber optic internet a decade ago, and they did not. They made a lot of promises, but did not fulfill any of them.

Verizon (landline) is equally guilty.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
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I see they don't want to be the 'third best'
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HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

I hope you're not insinuating that AT&T and Verizon are better corporations as that would be completely naive to say that.


williamthril0

join:2011-06-05
Mcallen, TX

Google

I would think a Google purchase is more likely.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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reply to HaloFans

Re: Clearwire is a

They are better in that they have positive earnings and cash flow .. but 'better corporations' in the sense of consumer sentiment? Nope
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to HaloFans

Re: question is: will clear keep "unlimited" 4g

Explains while data prioritization have been always higher on sprint plan than clear plan even though same towers for 4g.


RDC17

join:2011-05-15
Baltimore, MD

Polar opposites

The cable cos would rather stab their eyes out than play nice with T-Mobile's pricing levels.


romulusnr

join:2007-08-01
Federal Way, WA

Huh? Now they need spectrum?

I thought the whole point of the TMO-ATT merger was that TMO had all this spectrum but no means to deploy it, while ATT had all the means to deploy it but was low on spectrum.

Now TMO needs spectrum? How does that affect the merger calculations?

(Oh, right, it's so that ATT can be the majority player in wireless, I forgot.)



Matt3
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Jamestown, NC
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reply to Jim_in_VA

Re: Clearwire is a

said by Jim_in_VA:

yes it does, however GSM and CDMA are not compatible

With the Sprint Vision network retrofit, adding GSM support is a simple matter of plugging a blade into the base station.

Although why support a dying technology? Just migrate the TMo customers from GSM to LTE like AT&T did when they migrated Orange to Blue after the Cingular merger.


Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

that is the baseline ... LTE



RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
reply to HaloFans

said by HaloFans:

»www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-content/···x430.jpg

Doesn't T-Mobile run its GSM network on 1900 MHz?

No - They use 1700 Mhz for their 3G/4G Data Frequency (and thus are not compatible with AT&T's 1900Mhz 3G/4G frequency). This is why T-Mobile was refused the right to sell the new iPhone 4S (since Apple did not bother to include this frequency in that phone). This lack of support by Apple is IMO due to some pressure from AT&T to make their takeover of T-Mobile easier. The design of the iPhone 4S started BEFORE AT&T started their T-Mobile acquisition efforts so that event was not what stopped the addition of the frequency in the device. BTW: Pre-iPhone 4S T-Mobile had a 3% share of all iPhones due to their selling of the needed SIM/mini-SIM. Those users were just restricted to the EDGE network.


HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

What's the frequency that T-Mobile uses for phone calls and text messages?



BUCKEYECOM

@buckeyecom.net
reply to Matt3

because migrating those customers from GSM to CDMA would kill those of us that enjoy our TMO coverage and services the way it is. If we were migrated now to CMDA it would kill what we get- especially our wifi/uma calling. Something Sprint does NOT offer nor will ever. They have their cheap POS AiRaves that are suppose to do that but only at home. Also we can use our phones in 50% of the world without unlocking the phone nor moving to a provider there. We just put on the Wifi Calling. Again, something Sprint only dreams of offering.

Sprint would KILL TMO-USA and the entire company would tank- just as they killed and ruined Nextel that ended up hurting the Sprint Brand.



BUCKEYECOM

@buckeyecom.net
reply to williamthril0

Re: Google

NEVER will happen. Google has been under fire lately more and more by the FDA and the DOJ. Plus their in bed with CellCo.



tellie

@comcast.net
reply to RARPSL

Re: Clearwire is a

yes even though the qualcom chip apple uses in the iPhone DOES support the AWS frequency that Tmobile uses.
do some homework on the gobi3000 and sierra wireless cards..


RDC17

join:2011-05-15
Baltimore, MD
reply to romulusnr

Re: Huh? Now they need spectrum?

I don't think T-Mobile needs spectrum. With AWS they had a clean slate to put in a brand new network.

Coverage is their achilles heel. Parent DT isn't willing to spend the money required to expand their coverage to be competitive with ATT/VZ/Sprint. Mainly because they have consistently had the lowest prices yet had nominal growth, along with losses.

TMo either needs someone who is willing to beef up the coverage area or someone like AT&T who already has an established network.


iFail 5G

join:2011-08-03
reply to Matt3

Re: Clearwire is a

said by Matt3:

said by Jim_in_VA:

yes it does, however GSM and CDMA are not compatible

With the Sprint Vision network retrofit, adding GSM support is a simple matter of plugging a blade into the base station.

Although why support a dying technology? Just migrate the TMo customers from GSM to LTE like AT&T did when they migrated Orange to Blue after the Cingular merger.

Having a *Vision* vs. putting it into order are two completely separate things. They need to have the capital and barely have enough to do network vision. They are way behind even T-Mobile in terms of having a 4G network and they haven't even migrated the network they acquired in 05".

iFail 5G

join:2011-08-03
reply to HaloFans

said by HaloFans:

What's the frequency that T-Mobile uses for phone calls and text messages?

It depends on which network, T-Mobile like AT&T is essentially running two different networks. If you are on the GSM network, then 1900mhz, on UMTS/HSPA+ its AWS 1700/2100

gridlocked

join:2009-08-21
Bristol, RI
reply to RDC17

Re: Huh? Now they need spectrum?

It's common knowledge that T-Mobile is spectrum short and that they were in talks with Clear and Lightsquared to lease or buy spectrum prior to the Deathstar swooping in with it's ridiculously high bid.

For AT&T to refarm T-Mobile spectrum for LTE they will have to move all of T-Mobiles customers to new phones or force them back to Edge speeds till LTE is available everywhere.

I can't see customers being happy with that.

»news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20112···hortage/

T-Mobile accepted AT&T's bid to buy it in part because it doesn't have enough spectrum to build a 4G wireless network.