DesdinovaPremium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | So... Did they just not file for ANY streaming licenses? or are there specific licenses for specific kinds of content (or streamed content delivery)?
*EDIT* Never mind. I re-read the articles and I missed where it says that they didn't seem to have any streaming licenses (unless I misread THAT detail, also  ). |
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| "Justice" system in this country is a joke Wow, that judge must be techincally inept. I personally see no reason why Zediva is infringing. The length of a cord determines if it is infringing or not? What a joke. |
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Re: So... The jist of their business model was charging 1-3 dollars for basically giving you control of a dvd player. The DVD player would compress the video content and then send it over the internet to your computer.
It was basically no different than someone having a dvd player with a very long cable connecting it to a display. |
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 ShadowMastrMaster Of All Shadows
join:2001-09-01
Fort Pierce, FL | Was a nice try I hope they made enough to pay their fines......
Logically they seem to be in the right, but that doesn't seem to make any difference to judges who don't have a clue, and listen to what the Motion Picture 'advisors' tell them is right.....
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| This just proves it again: This just proves it again: WE HAVE THE BEST GOVERNMENT AND JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT MONEY CAN BUY!! |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to PinkyThePig
Re: "Justice" system in this country is a joke said by PinkyThePig:Wow, that judge must be techincally inept. I personally see no reason why Zediva is infringing. The length of a cord determines if it is infringing or not? What a joke.
Court after court has ruled that you have to do streaming deals with the studios in order to stream movies. And one idiot firm after another has decided they can circumvent those court decisions by coming up with some technicality to get around those decisions. Well it isn't surprising that the courts are having no patience with these attempts to bypass their decisions.
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Re: This just proves it again: Unfortunately, that will never change  . |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to PinkyThePig
Re: "Justice" system in this country is a joke which is sad because if the DVDs where purchased than the movie goons got their money.
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Court after court based on Sharia law decided that death by stoning was A-ok.
Court after court in Nazi Germany decided that killing and torturing Jews was just fine.
Some courts found that crap called Prohibition was ok.
Some military courts found that if one was gay an exemplary military record would still not count and kick that person out.
Military courts found that waterboarding was a war crime (unless we do it).
There are those things called screwed up laws that usually take a lot of effort to get rid of. |
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 ArrayListnetbus developerPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | move Why don't they just host the service in another country? Heck I'm sure the pirate bay would know an ISP willing to host their content. |
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| Length of a cord? No. Wrong. If this company provided a service to play your own DVDs over the network, then it would be a "length of the cord" issue.
But, they didn't. They buy the DVDs, they "rent" them to customers (a transparent dodge), then they stream them down to the customers.
This is exactly what video-on-demand services do. You rent a video for $X, and you get to view it at home without physically possessing it.
The judge was completely correct in demolishing this sham.
And Karl, predictably, throws misleading red meat out there to the haters to stir them up.
This kind of stuff does not help the cause. Seriously. |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
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Re: "Justice" system in this country is a joke said by Kearnstd:which is sad because if the DVDs where purchased than the movie goons got their money.
The fees that DVD rental businesses pay are for the rental liecese on each disk and are far more than the cost of a disk.
Had they negoeated a rental liecense in advance, with fees based on the way they intended to distribute rather than trying to sneak around the intent of the restrictions everyone might be happier, and they would still be in business.
the fees would likely have been higher than at a brick and morter (including redbox type machines) location because the viewings per day are potently much higher.
and of course they would need a way to audit the viewing/disks purchased to assure ONLY genuine rental disks were used (the sneakness factor works against their "trustworthness" in going strictly according to the ToS ) |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| MPAA/RIAA mob stops innovation! Any new innovative way of making copyrighted material more useful to the consumer is fought tooth and nail by the Music/Movie mob. Scroll down to the article in the link:
»www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/19/o···ip-bill/
The music labels has never gotten over the introduction of the high fidelity cassette recorder and the movie studios the BetaMax Video Recorder. As soon as there is an innovation the music/movie mob lawyer up and shake down any innovator making viewing or listening to copyrighted material more convenient. Our corrupt lawmakers will never write any laws that are beneficial to the middle class by reining in the outrageous lawsuits by the copyright mob. |
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Re: "Justice" system in this country is a joke Firms--Netflix, for example--are licensed to host and distribute (which involves "copying" by its very nature), which has zero to do with "streaming" (which is just sending from point A to point B--I "stream" content from a disc in my player to my TV whenever I play the disc). Content owners do not own the "streaming rights" to anything no matter how much they claim to; that's not what copyright is about. And since Zediva only streamed from point A to point B for signed in users, it also was not a "public performance" as the content owners claimed. Judge Walker is still an idiot. This injunction is all manner of wrong.
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 ctceoPremium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
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| Contradiction? Then this ruling directly contradicts HBO & Macrovisions activities in the home recording activity arena. My cords are long enough, why can't I record sometimes?
Additionally it's not gonna stop here. Leased computing time is coming, as is lease only solar cars and banned combustion engine type, and you must be online to play video games. Thank You free-market. May I have another? |
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | reply to Boricua65
Re: This just proves it again: Yes keep thinking that as long as people vote for those "Republicrats" because most all are one in the same. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | It's not a partisan issue so please stop trying to make it one. Are things any different with a different party in the White House? How about when "the other party" controlled the House and the Senate? "Hateboys" are just as bad, if not worse, than "fanboys". |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9 | said by openbox9:It's not a partisan issue so please stop trying to make it one. Are things any different with a different party in the White House? How about when "the other party" controlled the House and the Senate? "Hateboys" are just as bad, if not worse, than "fanboys".
I took it a little different: How is a "Republicrat" different from a "Demican"?
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | My apologies if I misread intent. My point still partially stands until any well-formed political movement actually changes the environment. |
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cramer
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:7 | reply to PinkyThePig
Re: So... Actually no, their service is nothing like a "long cord" -- ala an HDMI repeater.
It's exactly like putting a slingbox on a DVD player and renting (remote) access to it. The player's output(s) are being converted and streamed to someone else. Now, if I owned the player and the slingbox, it's a different story, but they'd still have a legal tantrum over it. |
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