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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Pathetic This option should be available to everyone. People who can afford to drop any amount of money on broadband and computers to use it shouldn't be viewed as "poor."
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 TOPDAWGPremium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
kudos:3 | have to agree with ya. So called poor are not sporting big tv's in their homes along with having cable and computers. people in this day and age have no idea what poor really is. |
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And you get to deem that why? the Feds decide what is considered poor not anyone else. They've been doing it for years. But as far as Comcast says with a cable box; if you have one or the fastest HSI package available; you shouldn't get the free package. But if you fall into the category of what the feds say; you should get the $10 per month HSI. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | said by 25139889:And you get to deem that why? Being poor implies that you're having a hard time paying for things you need in order to survive. If you can pay for things like food, clothing, rent, health care and what not, and still have money left over for $10 a month for broadband, as well as what it costs to own a computer or other device that uses it then you are not poor.
When did being able to afford a marginal amount of money for luxuries become part of the definition of "poor?" If that's what the government is defining "poor" as then, once again, it gets it wrong.
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| There is so much that jumps out at me... I can't believe that the FCC would approve this as a condition to the NBC merg........ oh wait. The FCC. Ok, totally makes sense.
I can certainly understand not qualifying for the service if you owe Comcast money. I would not choose to do business again with someone who stuck me with bad debt and did not pay it off.
But, having to qualify for the school lunch program and not having any Comcast service as a condition? What if you don't have any children in the public school system? Is there an equivalent metric for qualification for the elderly and otherwise childless? And, while it's not advertised, you can usually get basic cable with around 20 channels for $10-15/month. What is the logic there? If you can afford $15 a month for TV, you can afford $50 for their basic internet plan?
The premise made that this condition is essentially unobtainable certainly seems logical. This gives me very little hope towards the AT&T-mobile merger currently making its way through anti-trust procedures. |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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Re: Pathetic said by 25139889:And you get to deem that why? the Feds decide what is considered poor not anyone else. They've been doing it for years.
Because they have been handing out charity for years; and those as hand out the money get to decide who qualifies for getting it.
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:People who can afford to drop any amount of money on broadband and computers to use it shouldn't be viewed as "poor." Depending on the computer. What if it was an old one that someone donated or given away?
Yes, people probably can't afford a "new" computer.. but I usually find old P2-P4's at the rescue mission for $10. That, plus a "found on the curb" CRT monitor, keyboard, and mouse.. It's technically "a computer".
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 wings10I Am LegendPremium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL | Since when is Broadband important for the "low Income" If your poor what are you doing with a computer or other devise needed to get on the web?
How about feed your children? |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Incredible A "low income" (welfare) broadband connection *SHOULD* have restrictions and caveats.
Where are these "high prices that result from a lack of real market competition?"
Our local broadband rates have dropped 50% from a decade ago, while cost per bit is 1% of what it was when DSL first deployed.
Why should you be able to obtain service if you haven't paid your bills?
What's next, do we simply waive electric, gas, water/sewer and trash charges too? |
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join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
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Re: Pathetic quote:
When did being able to afford a marginal amount of money for luxuries become part of the definition of "poor?" If that's what the government is defining "poor" as then, once again, it gets it wrong.
Internet access is no longer a luxury and ranks appropriately with other utility services as it is becoming ever more essential for our prosperity as individuals AND as a nation. Get over the luxury nonsense and start looking up from the usual talking points...
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You need to have a child to qualify for this service.
I don't consider myself poor but I can't afford to have a child.
Why should I have to subsidize people who can afford children?
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to coldmoon
said by coldmoon:Internet access is no longer a luxury and ranks appropriately with other utility services as it is becoming ever more essential for our prosperity as individuals AND as a nation. Get over the luxury nonsense and start looking up from the usual talking points... If it is such a necessity then everyone should be able to get it for $10 a month.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to Chester2
said by Chester2:You need to have a child to qualify for this service.
I don't consider myself poor but I can't afford to have a child.
Why should I have to subsidize people who can afford children?
Good point.
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| WHY??? Why do we allow these morons to continue to do this crap. Is the FCC so far removed from the reality that is what most of us see and live??? Do they think we are so stupid as not to know they screw us at every turn??? I guess we are the 99% (unless you want $10 internet...THEN you are the 1%...if that) |
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coldmoonPremium
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Broadway, NC Reviews:
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Re: Pathetic said by pnh102:said by coldmoon:Internet access is no longer a luxury and ranks appropriately with other utility services as it is becoming ever more essential for our prosperity as individuals AND as a nation. Get over the luxury nonsense and start looking up from the usual talking points... If it is such a necessity then everyone should be able to get it for $10 a month. No argument there and one way to get that price break would be to break up the creation/delivery scam, dumb down the pipes, and let the ISPs fight for customers based on price and service quality. We should invest in a national FTTH program as we did with the roadways under Eisenhower then reap the rewards of universal broadband access...
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You can get a really cheap netbook these days for $200 like the
super-slim Asus Eee PC X101
With almost all jobs only accepting resumes online and more and more day to day business moving to the internet, it's becoming a neccesity and a really good tool to learn and this is for household that have children, I'm assuming that it is intended to help those poor children who are poor due to no fault of their own.
So I think it's perfectly reasonable that a poor person could afford a cheap netbook, or even get one as a gift or have one given to them via a charity and not be able to afford $50 a month for a cable modem but $10 makes it more affordable.
It's just sad that this so called move to help the poor is so pathetic.
It's really easy to sit and judge the poor when your well off.
and just so you know, I'm not the poor, I'm solidly middle class
and not looking for a handout myself. I just think the poor deserve any help we can give those who want to help themselves. |
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| 1.5? Most entry level cablemodem service was originally provisioned at 3mbits. only the docsis 1.0 (early generations) were single and/or duplex around at 3+ megabits unless the signal was not amplified & conditioned properly over long distances. It almost seems a waste of a cablemodem to provision less than 10 megabits. Comcast can do alot better and qualify more people at or above the poverty level. |
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| more heartless people on this site than i assumed. amazingly how everyone can easily decide what poor people should have and not have. but everyone goes ballistic if government decided you only needed one car and 200 sqft per person per residence ( regardless ).
i was broke as hell and had a computer and dial up back in the day. that was our entertainment and enjoyment.
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Re: Since when is Broadband important for the "low Income&q disabled, ssi, $674.00 internet to keep me from going INSANE, $30 (3Mbps).
i would love to have $10 internet, not gonna happen because i "get to much" they should try it. and yeah yeah internets not a priority other than its my only social interaction and with out it i would probably go nuts...
i do agree however, even on my income i have "never" been late or missed a bill, ever. if it wasnt for that stupid digital transition a few years back i wouldnt have basic cable tv, id have an antenna, but nooo, thanks to that crap id need an outdoor mast mount antenna. oi!
im getting off topic, my bad. for those of us that are disabled and cant get out, the internet can sadly turn in to our lives, our only social interactions, while you normal people see it as a play thing for entertainment, some of us (me) see it as our only connection to the outside world. |
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