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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral now while riding the upside of growing traffic. That is, the per byte billing rate can be set such that they make no more or no less than what they bring in now. But as traffic continues to grow as more and more users start streaming video, they can ride that to higher revenue. And that higher revenue can be used to both expand infrastructure and create higher profits.
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| Can never tell if serious or trolling. A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral now while riding the upside of growing traffic. That is, the per byte billing rate can be set such that they make no more or no less than what they bring in now. |
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I just want Comcast to start charging something, anything, for overages. Right now they're walking away from money.
Kicking higher use customers off or sending them to Comcast's business class product (which is an abuse of that service) isn't the answer now that they are fully DOCSIS 3. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | I agree that they shouldn't kick them off. They should "upgrade" them to a service that suits their needs.
However, charging overage fees will eventually bring anger from the average user. We're headed toward more data, not less. While today's caps might be OK for most, cable has been busy raising speeds but leaving caps fixed. Sooner or later this is going to collide with the average user. When enough folks get angry, they are going to look for alternatives. One of two things is going to happen. Either competitors will enter the market because they sense there's money to be made or the lack of competition will cause legislators to regulate. Case in point, I understand congress is considering revising the baggage fee mania of the airlines. Despite competition and Southwest NOT charging baggage fees, it seems evident that the airlines have ticked off their customers enough for even a heavily lobbied and pro-corporate congress to consider taking action.
I don't see a whole lot of difference between the airlines baggage fees and HSI-provider caps with overage fees. |
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said by Linklist:And that higher revenue can be used to create higher profits. FTFY.
Monopoly think: Why waste perfectly good money on infrastructure when it can be used to make the bottom line bigger??? |
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by praetoralpha: Why waste perfectly good money on infrastructure when it can be used to make the bottom line bigger???
Cable companies spend Billions every year on infrastructure upgrades. Read the annual reports. |
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| said by Linklist:said by praetoralpha: Why waste perfectly good money on infrastructure when it can be used to make the bottom line bigger???
Cable companies spend Billions every year on infrastructure upgrades. Read the annual reports. Has their infrastructure spending in absolute dollars increased proportionally as their customer base and revenues have increased? |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | Wishful Thinking Bloggers? "Except as we've noted for years, carriers aren't really interested in truly cost-conscious, usage-based options, because a carrier loses money. Were a "light" customer who currently pays $50-$60 a month for service suddenly be offered an option where they only paid for what they use, they'd wind up paying $5-$10 a month"
TWC's offering was $15/month, shouted down by so-called consumer advocates. even before ACTUAL customers had a chance to subscribe it.
Thanks to the actions of loud-mouth pundits, a large percentage of low-volume users are paying double or triple what they would have. Thanks heaps, Karl. |
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Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral Of course and we wouldnt expect anything less from you.
I also want the car dealers, super markets, insurance companies, all local utilities, cable / SAT and IPTV, online retailers, the government, movie theaters and gas stations to start charging more too because they are all walking away from money!!! |
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Re: Wishful Thinking Bloggers? Are you sure that it wasnt shouted down by an astroturf group being paid by TWC to give the very illusion you are claiming?
You do realize that is a perfectly viable explanation and certainly is not beyond the moral standards of these companies. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to Abbot7
Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral said by Abbot7 :Which they would never, ever do. Why not? Can you think of a more palatable method to introduce UBB while avoiding strong opposition from the masses? |
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Comcast does have overage charges - they're the $17 difference between business class and residential class.
Comcast isn't stupid, and they wouldn't be allowing people in business class to use unlimited bandwidth if they weren't making money. Anyone who believes that they are somehow ignorant that heavy users subscribe to business class service is naive. Their system isn't being "abused" - they're offering a better service and you pay more money for it. Their network is so undercapacity, in my area at least, that they make money even on the $43/month residential users who hit their caps. They aren't going to kick off users who pay them $17 more to use a network that has more than enough bandwidth available. That's probably why their business services are slower than their residential services - because the speed of the connection is calculated to be its own cap.
To me, this seems to be a very fair system as it is currently set up. If you want a cap, you pay less for residential service. If you want unlimited service, you pay more for commercial service. You get what you pay for, and Comcast makes money accordingly.
In my opinion, Comcast's business class is by far the best ISP that I have ever had. Unlike FiOS, I always get Comcast's provisioned speeds and have never seen a slowdown below those speeds at any time of day. Comcast's network has never gone out, not even once, and their ping times are lower than Verizon's. I never hear from them about bandwidth usage or running servers. I send them my $60 every month, and it just works. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to JasonOD
said by JasonOD :Kicking higher use customers off or sending them to Comcast's business class product Isn't that charging more by default? |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to Skippy25
They likely will if the market bears it  |
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Apparently you didn't read my second sentence. |
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join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | reply to Linklist
They could...but they won't. If UBB was made fairly, customers would actually be able to save money by using less bandwidth. As things stand now, no customer actually sees savings. The best they can aim for is to continue to be screwed at today's rates.
said by Linklist:And that higher revenue can be used to both expand infrastructure and create higher profits.
They've already been very profitable. Shouldn't the current high profits go to network infrastructure investment? What is there to believe that this influx of profit would be any different? |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
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| The telephone cartel outsmarted itself in the 30's!  Back in the 1930's the telephone industry and AT&T was pulling the same crap as the ISP's are today, high prices and screw the consumer. Citizens got tired of being abused and during a period of low lawmaker corruption the Fed's regulated the telephone industry because it was a monopoly. The same needs to be done to the Broadband Industry. We need a landslide during the next election dumping the greedy old pigs (GOP) and replacing them with lawmakers that have their constituents in mind rather than their ultra rich contributors. Hopefully Grover will drop dead, the sooner the better. |
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ThalerPremium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | reply to Linklist
Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral I honestly wouldn't know it based upon what I see locally. Many of our utilities seem to be operating on a skeleton maintenance budget. |
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ThalerPremium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3 | reply to elray
Re: Wishful Thinking Bloggers? The only $15/month I ever saw from TWC was more to the tune of $20/month, and it only covered local channels - the ones we could pick up with antennas. Having a choice of $15-20/month for otherwise free content isn't really much of an offering. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Linklist
Re: A UBB plan can be designed to be revenue neutral They let people use business class unlimited because they know the typical home user who gets it to go download crazy is also unlikely to be calling in a lot and using that expedited service that business class comes with.
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