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Comments on news posted 2011-12-06 18:47:21: Earlier this month Sanford Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett lustfully predicted that one of the major U.S. cable operators would implement per-byte overages in 2012. ..


newview
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Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

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"We Don’t Want to Nickel-and-Dime Customers at This Point."
Are you fucking kidding me?
AdmiralGump
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LOL

The only reason most ISP's can't goto a usage based system is because nobody can seem to get the usage meters to display actual and true usage.

Having a cap=usage based billing IMO.
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Re: Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

I know, right?

EDIT: I don't mean to say that they're particularly bad about nickel-and-diming customers, but that just seems like a stupid thing to say.

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Really? They actually have less nickel and diming than most companies I have seen.
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Re: LOL

The Comcast usage meter has been accurate enough for me. It's comparable to (even less than in some case) the numbers that I pull from my DD-WRT equipped router.

Whether 250GB is enough in this day and age is a whole other discussion (for me it is...most months) however their meter *is* accurate so if they did UBB the billing would be correct, if not particularly pleasant for heavy users.

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Re: Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

said by newview:

quote:
"We Don’t Want to Nickel-and-Dime Customers at This Point."
Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes, Comcast is more into $5 & $10 you to death. They don't bother with nickels and dimes.

newview
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Really? They actually have less nickel and diming than most companies I have seen.

That's cause it's not nickels and dimes ... it's dollars ... twice a year now. The percentage of increase is many times from 4% to 10%, much more than any other companies providing comparable services.

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said by AdmiralGump:

The only reason most ISP's can't goto a usage based system is because nobody can seem to get the usage meters to display actual and true usage.

Having a cap=usage based billing IMO.

AT&T's iPhone data is metered billing with an initial prepaid bundle of data. Comcast has a cap - exceed it twice, no internet for you from comcast for a year. See the difference?

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said by AdmiralGump:

The only reason most ISP's can't goto a usage based system is because nobody can seem to get the usage meters to display actual and true usage.

My experience has been that the Comcast metering of my connection has been very accurate for well over a year.
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so go over 250GB and get cut off when others bill you for go

so go over 250GB and get cut off when others bill you for going over.

Nice way to say you can't do what other have?
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Re: Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

there high box rent / outlet fees sucks.

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said by FFH5:

said by newview:

quote:
"We Don’t Want to Nickel-and-Dime Customers at This Point."
Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes, Comcast is more into $5 & $10 you to death. They don't bother with nickels and dimes.

Exactly!
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Re: so go over 250GB and get cut off when others bill you for go

I'd certainly rather stay with a (in my opinion) very fairly enforced 250 GB soft cap than usage based billing, but that's just me. I've gone over a bit a few times and there was no complaints from Comcast.
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Re: LOL

The "heavy user" of today is the normal user of tomorrow. Caps do nothing but cause more trouble than what their worth for the users, avoid the actual problem (network upgrades), trying their best at keeping their current TV subs, if not get more, and putting more money in their EXECs pockets
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Internet Usage
I guess Comcast's enforcement of the cap varies from market to market...

For September to November, my family has used 1.618TB... (Mostly Netflix, we don't subscribe to tv from Comcast)
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Correction: heavy users of today are normal users three or four years from now. Then again, Comcast hasn't increased their caps since they've instituted them...though they still offer competitively-priced Business Class service so that's reasonable.
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Then stop capping.

Yes, DOCSIS is shared, but at the end of the day, it shouldn't matter if some people use a lot... At least they have the business class offering that is truly unlimited.
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new euphamism

death by a thousand paper cut$

These days we're not talking about a few innocent cents to make a couple of million off of customers, several dollar increases rake in several million dollars which is multiplied by how many MILLIONS of customers that will fall for a price increase.

However, if several thousand can move their money from big banks to a credit union.. there's no reason why in Comcast land (DEFINITELY IN CENTURY-TEL LAND) there can't be more muni-seeded competition ISPs.

On the other hand, there are market reasons why their speed tiers have boosted higher.. and it's not about hitting the 250gb cap faster. It's about keeping the customer happy and paying their monthly bill rather than leaving. If customers wanted to bathe in a thousand paper cuts of death, they'd subscribe to cellular wireless data post paid plans for AT&T and VERIZON.
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Re: LOL

Irony:
To Comcast you are their worst customer.
To Netflix you are their best customer.

If this doesn't emphasize the need for net neutrality, nothing else does.

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Re: Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

The quote is correct, Comcast does not nickel and dime its customers.

It dollar and five dollars them.
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Competition is illegal. Companies had government set them up with monopolies, and when people try to fund upgrades to decades-old technology that ISPs won't a corrupt legislator submits a bill written by the monopolists outlawing that too.
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Thank you for making me feel better about the normal usage at my household...

Netflix, a couple of PS3's, a X360, quite a bit justin.tv and Revision3.. No direct download sites (RS,MU,etc), BT , or usenet traffic to speak of, unless the kids got super smart and hacked into my dd-wrt restrictions.



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Holy Christmas.

I watch mostly Netflix, but also stream through Hulu and other browser based sites...everyday. Netflix is watched sometimes via the browser but mostly Windows Media Center. Is your family watching via Wii or Playstation?

The reason I ask is because on of my friends had to buy Comcast's business service because Netflix (using his Playstation) was sucking up over 350GB per month. My guess is that certain Netflix-ready devices don't have as efficient bandwidth usage as others. I never come close to that...i use about 150GB/mo.

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said by axiomatic:

Irony:
To Comcast you are their worst customer.
To Netflix you are their best customer.

I'm no so sure -- the profit margin to Netflix goes down the more a subscriber uses it. They have to pay for CDN transport costs, plus license fees for every piece of content watched by a subscriber.

The "best" Netflix customer is one who pays for the service and never uses it.

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Re: Somebody at Comcast trying to be funny?

there where?