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Palm Coast, FL | Great way.. to start the week. | |
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join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | Re: Great way.. They will also hide it inside a really popular bill.
The news companies will ignore it.
It will be up to us to see if they are trying to sneak it by and raise hell about it to try and stop it. | |
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Great way.. said by Oh_No:They will also hide it inside a really popular bill.
The news companies will ignore it.
It will be up to us to see if they are trying to sneak it by and raise hell about it to try and stop it.
I think an episode of the Simpsons even made fun of hiding stupid laws inside bills you know will pass.
Instant sell to the general Fox News crowd is some anti-terrorism bill with SOPA hidden well away on page 10,000.
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| It takes two Douchebag one (in the Senate) to douchebag two (lobbyist for the clowns of the entertainment industry): "I tried to push it thru, can I still keep the money?" 
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then we can push innovation to 100/100 megabits symmetric for $50! nobody getting any younger... | |
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| dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | Re: voting.. said by tmc8080:get rid of the republicans and democrats who sell out to the copyright whores!
then we can push innovation to 100/100 megabits symmetric for $50! nobody getting any younger...
You left out free unicorns, world peace, and $30,000 flying cars. | |
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join:2000-05-14
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| Re: voting.. said by dynodb:You left out free unicorns, world peace, and $30,000 flying cars.
I'm still pissed about the flying cars.
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Chicago, IL | 100/100 megabits would still be very profitable at $50 a month. | |
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join:2007-04-10
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| Re: voting.. That's debatable. A lot of the US is very spread out. And to do so means running completely new infrastructure (i.e. fiber) everywhere. Verizon tried that; it was very, very expensive, and they quite stupidly sold a bunch of it. (to morons who don't know how to use it.) The few municipal networks that have been built suggests it's possible, however, they aren't out to be a for-profit enterprise. (and if you believe the propaganda, they're completely built and funded by tax money.) | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: voting.. so why not in big cities and most of the northest?
also as to the tax money funding the muni networks... im ok with this? better that then in some ones slush fund
hell no one looks at the long run any more id bet you more them make it back with property taxes and new business that moves in when you have a network like that | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Re: voting.. By my rekoning, it's a combination of (mostly) greed, and lazy. They have no competition which means no pressure to upgrade. And they already have a massively profitable pig, so they have no desire (or willingness) to take any chances at all -- they won't do anything new until someone else takes all the risks and makes money at it. (it's the Microsoft Way(tm)... let someone else build the business and then take it away from them.)
The part about tax-funded is a joke. They are only *partly* funded by tax revenue, and even then, it's in the form of bonds which eventually get paid back -- unless the local monopolies bleed them dry with legal red tape (or *cough* buy their own set of laws making it illegal to even ask.)
Long-term is not what it used to be. CEOs, investors, and shareholders want money now, not tomorrow, and not 3-5 years from now. | |
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Springfield, MO | Re: voting.. said by cramer:Long-term is not what it used to be. CEOs, investors, and shareholders want money now, not tomorrow, and not 3-5 years from now.
AND THAT is whats going to turn the US in to a 3rd world country in 20 years | |
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Washington, DC Reviews:
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| High on my list would be Joe Biden. He's the reason I went third party last election.
The federal gov blocked the AT&T / T-mobile merger, that's the kind of thing needed for improved competition which will lead to higher broadband speeds. They can't regulate their way to requiring faster speeds, that's really up to municipal governments. | |
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join:2008-01-29
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 It might be possible that the lawmakers will not receive their pound of flesh/campaign contributions from the puppet masters, unless the laws are passed by a certain date. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: WOW said by meeeeeeeeee:Seemingly intelligent thought from the White House. Haven't seen THAT in decades... must have been an accident...
The WH will approve it with 'reservations'.
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kudos:2 | My guess is the President is trying to appease as many people as possible so he actually has a shot at another term. This attempt to ramrod copyright protections down consumers' throats received enough bad publicity that it was in the White House's best interest to make it go away...for now. | |
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join:2007-03-10
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| said by meeeeeeeeee:Seemingly intelligent thought from the White House. Haven't seen THAT in decades... must have been an accident...
Duh, an election is coming up.. Of course they will pretend to care for the people this year  If reelected though, go buy all the KY you can find and horde it!! Internet ID here we come! Yet, its soo hard to establish voter ID without somehow magically disenfranchising undead, illegals :-/ | |
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| Re: WOW said by decifal:said by meeeeeeeeee:Seemingly intelligent thought from the White House. Haven't seen THAT in decades... must have been an accident...
Duh, an election is coming up.. Of course they will pretend to care for the people this year If reelected though, go buy all the KY you can find and horde it!! Internet ID here we come! Yet, its soo hard to establish voter ID without somehow magically disenfranchising undead, illegals :-/ Ecept for the fact that there is no proof of wide-spread voter fraud or an inability of the laws we already have to deal with those very, very rare instances where it has happened.
Troll harder...
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join:2007-03-10
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| Re: WOW said by coldmoon:said by decifal:said by meeeeeeeeee:Seemingly intelligent thought from the White House. Haven't seen THAT in decades... must have been an accident...
Duh, an election is coming up.. Of course they will pretend to care for the people this year If reelected though, go buy all the KY you can find and horde it!! Internet ID here we come! Yet, its soo hard to establish voter ID without somehow magically disenfranchising undead, illegals :-/ Ecept for the fact that there is no proof of wide-spread voter fraud or an inability of the laws we already have to deal with those very, very rare instances where it has happened. Troll harder... Right, so the votes that came in that were from people that have been deceased weren't proof enough? Seriously how are you gonna vote in a primary if you've been dead for 6 years? This was a constant turn up problem in 2008 and i'm not gonna be surprised to see it turn up again..
Iowa this year stated that they would not let one of the candidates win at any cost. You can be smug smug all you want. This system is not bullet proof.. Do I dare bring up Acorn?
Then again if your gonna defend those types there's no real talking to ya anyways because it wouldn't matter if this country fell or not in your eyes..
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join:2002-02-04
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| Re: WOW said by decifal:Right, so the votes that came in that were from people that have been deceased weren't proof enough? Seriously how are you gonna vote in a primary if you've been dead for 6 years? This was a constant turn up problem in 2008 and i'm not gonna be surprised to see it turn up again..
Iowa this year stated that they would not let one of the candidates win at any cost. You can be smug smug all you want. This system is not bullet proof.. Do I dare bring up Acorn?
Then again if your gonna defend those types there's no real talking to ya anyways because it wouldn't matter if this country fell or not in your eyes..
Cheers
Wow - hyperbole much?
Please, provide one reputable study that shows anything different than what I just said. Even the MSM notes this every time they interview anyone trying to push this debunked theory in an attempt to rationalize their moves to push through extremest voting laws that do nothing other than disenfranchising the elderly, the young, and anyone else who has a different view than they have.
The only thing you MIGHT have a point about is where some states allow anyone to vote in primaries regardless of their affiliation with the party having the primary. Given the fact that what's good for the goose is also good for the gander, it falls flat once looked at closely...
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join:2007-03-10
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| Re: WOW Many news sites have removed many I'm guessing due to the amount of time passed, but for some light reading:
»online.wsj.com/article/SB1241827···435.html
»pjmedia.com/blog/the-complete-gu···r-fraud/
»www.judicialwatch.org/press-room···igation/
This one i'm not soo sure about, and the link in the page to the news source has been changed so it doesn't follow anywhere, but what the hell:
»angrywhitedude.com/2008/10/the-l···r-obama/
Something that botheres me is that just with a couple states having fraud tends to set in motion the next president of the country.. Like Mitt winning Iowa and NH. People are already handing him the crown. But when later on if they find out that in fact, say Santorum won Iowa instead how will it be reflected? It won't, simple as that.. Things can easily be manipulated to shape someone to be the GOP/DEM primary within a couple small states knowing that a back count will not happen anytime soon to hault the hype that is who the lead person is.. | |
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I grew up in Alabama, where it's par for the course for party hacks (all Democrats) to troll absentee ballots through nursing homes and "vote" in the names of the Alzheimer's patients. It's been public knowledge in that state for decades (although the press won't report on it because it would adversely affect their preferred political party). Arthur Davis, a black Democrat and former member of the US House very courageously talked about it just this year.
»dailycaller.com/2011/11/21/democ···d-video/
Lyndon Johnson stole his first election to Congress, and JFK only got elected thanks to ranks of dead people "voting" in Chicago. But I guess that's not "credible" enough if it adversely affects YOUR preferred political party. | |
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| Re: WOW said by Ghirsted :Horseshit.
I grew up in Alabama, where it's par for the course for party hacks (all Democrats) to troll absentee ballots through nursing homes and "vote" in the names of the Alzheimer's patients. It's been public knowledge in that state for decades (although the press won't report on it because it would adversely affect their preferred political party). Arthur Davis, a black Democrat and former member of the US House very courageously talked about it just this year.
»dailycaller.com/2011/11/21/democ···d-video/
Lyndon Johnson stole his first election to Congress, and JFK only got elected thanks to ranks of dead people "voting" in Chicago. But I guess that's not "credible" enough if it adversely affects YOUR preferred political party.
So why were they not prosecuted under existing law? My point is that there is no need for more legislation when effective use of existing laws is sufficient to deal with cases such as those you list.
The problem in your examples is corruption and apathy, not a lack of tools to prosecute that corruption...
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join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | An attack from 3 sides The politicians who supported SOPA will come out against the bill after the public out cry, but then they will try to pass PIPA or the Protect IP act, claiming they are a much better bill then SOPA.
When in reality they are almost all the same. An attack from 3 sides.
They are probably temporarily shelving this bill in an effort to stop the internet wide black out protest on the 18th that big sites like reddit.com are doing to raise awareness about these bills.
Public awareness is the government and entertainment industry's nightmare. | |
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| DataDocMy avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC Reviews:
·Suddenlink
| Re: An attack from 3 sides said by Pv8man:...They are probably temporarily shelving this bill in an effort to stop the internet wide black out protest on the 18th that big sites like reddit.com are doing to raise awareness about these bills...
Never heard of this blackout until your post.
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join:2005-03-19 | Re: An attack from 3 sides I submitted several links to dslr about it and nothing ever was published. go figure. | |
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join:2002-06-14
Las Vegas, NV | If it was me, I'd go ahead and have the blackout anyway, explain what these shitpile bills are, and say that "we've dodged the bullet - temporarily" but DC will be back with SOPA/PIPA II, so everybody needs to keep their eyes/ears open... | |
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| Told you... that SOPA in its current form would not become law. You all should listen to me more.
However I think "son of SOPA" is coming and it would behoove the Internet community to get involved in the technical details and not just rail against the concept. What Rep. Smith kicked off in terms of a technical study committee is going to happen. And just whining "it breaks freedom, justice, liberty, and the Internet!" is not going to work. | |
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| Re: It'll pass anyway said by russotto:After the election, there's the lame-duck session where the legislators can pass any turds they want to pass without fear of retribution. Look for it then.
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join:2003-01-26
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join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
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| Re: Hmm... It's a Presidential election year. Expect other treats as everyone focuses on their reelection. You have to throw the peasants ( us ) a few scraps of meat. Come next November it's business as usual if Obama is reelected. If it's a Republican than it's a new, different and more ruthless dismantling of the (peasants) middle class. | |
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| The Pirate Bay Act Why not call it what it is? They want so f'ing desperately to kill the pirate bay. The thing is, the morons with tiny brains cannot understand US law doesn't apply outside the US. NONE of the pirate bay has ANYTHING to do with the US. If you want to "take a lesson from China", it should be how obviously flawed and ineffective their efforts to firewall the country have been. (not to forget you're proposing we emulate an oppressive, communist country that has killed it's own citizens more than once.) The only thing that will be remotely effective here is 1930s style gangster leg breaking... hunt down every person responsible for the site and "fill them full of lead"; then hunt down the servers and destroy them. (and likely the facility hosting them -- in the famous tpb raid, the thugs took entire racks that had nothing to do with the pirate bay.)
Everyone like to make up numbers showing how much they *think* the pirate bay generates. For starters, it's a complete d***ed guess. Only two people know for sure... the ad networks writing the checks, and whomever at the pirate bay cashing them. (and only the pirate bay knows the *total*.) And every one of those articles completely glosses over just how expensive it is to run the site. The servers aren't free. Hosting is not free. Bandwidth is not free. Their location hiding VPN service is not free. Nothing about it is "free". Even if the guess is correct ($171,000 in '09), I'm pretty sure most of it went towards operating costs.
(Running my own sites, I can tell you that you cannot simply guess what the ad revenues are. You don't know how many page views there are, how much each ad is worth, or even what ad campaigns are running -- you will only know about the ads that have been shown to you.) | |
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| | My Congressman and his constituents Last week my congresscritter, Trey Gowdy, held a public information session, which I attended. He is hard-core Tea Party. During the q&a I told him that SOPA was a mistake and should be stopped. He seemed to appreciate the problems with SOPA and gave a very similar reply to the one from the White House.
I think is is important that more people visibly communicate with their representatives that they are opposed to such laws, and that the people are closely watching Congress.
The really sad part was the reaction of the majority of the audience, average age estimated in the 60's. They either had no clue at all, or felt it was a good thing that the government was controlling the internet.
An elderly gentleman accosted me afterwards and said that he had been "hacked" and that if I were ever hacked I would support the government clamping down in the internet. I tried to explain SOPA to him, but it was a lost cause. | |
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| | It won't matter. Given the amoral, selfish and despicable behavior of politicans, it should be obvious by now we'll get SOPA with a different name and a new pretty bow. The only way to stop it is for EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT -- ISP, content provider, Google, Joe Smith's grandma -- to make their voices heard by implementing a serious effort for shut down the internet for 24 hours. That is the one and only thing that will stop them...for a while.
The worst danger isn't so much the passage of SOPA...it'll be congressional efforts to "fix it." The mess will look a lot like those duct-tape nightmares on the Cheezburger sites.
"Government's view of the economy (me: and now the internet) could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
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| | | Re: It won't matter. Politicians and lobbyists have nothing else to do but to write new restrictive and exploitative laws. They are drawing paychecks and will continue until the end of time. Congress should be convened only for every 10th year. | |
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Fairfield, CA Reviews:
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| said by ShellMMG:The only way to stop it is for EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT -- ISP, content provider, Google, Joe Smith's grandma -- to make their voices heard by implementing a serious effort for shut down the internet for 24 hours. That is the one and only thing that will stop them...for a while. Not really, the thing that stops Washington politicians is the threat of funding their Opponents' campaigns, and following through with that funding. Increase the difficulty of their reelection exponentially every election cycle, they work to make their districts "safe", and throw a wrench into those efforts. Target several of them each cycle, not all of them at once. Target a couple of the high profile politicians who push this crap. Make them fear losing their jobs for supporting this stuff. | |
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join:2000-08-05
Mentor, OH
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| 2 words, ok 3, well maybe more. Presidential Election Year.
He may have tried to run this country to the ground, but the democrat party isn't stupid enough to have this extremely unpopular bill go so far that it would add more fuel to the fire for people not to vote for him.
I'm not trying to turn this into politics, But a Bill such as SOPA, is politics. Considering it's widely unpopular with the voters, and it's a major election year.
I'm thinking this will come back in January of 2013, after the election is over, and the dust has settled. After all, the industries that support the bill have paid, my bad, donated money to re-election war chests.
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Obamacare was wildly unpopular with voters and it passed. As a result several congresscritters and senators have decided to "retire" because of the backlash. They knew it was unpopular and cut very toxic special deals that went public, and voted for it anyway. None of those ex-politicos are hurting for cash. They'll fall on their sword if the price is right. | |
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join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT | Means nothing... Obama is just telling people what they want to hear. Like he did during his campaign. How many of those promises did he keep?
How do you tell when a politician is lying? When their lips are moving... | |
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join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC Reviews:
·Windstream
| Re: Means nothing... said by Rekrul:Obama is just telling people what they want to hear. Like he did during his campaign. How many of those promises did he keep?
How do you tell when a politician is lying? When their lips are moving...
Hmm - let's see
1. Repeal of DNDT
2. end the Iraq war and bring the troops home
3. Affordable Health Care act
4. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009
5. Saved GM and Chrysler (part of keeping the economy from going completely off the cliff)
6. Higher gas mileage standards
7. Tougher environmental regulations for cleaner air and water
8. Found and took out Osama Bin-Laden + a great number of other high ranking terrorists
9. Attempted to kill of GITMO - congress wouldn't let him do it...
etc...
He is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination as is any other politician that has held the office, but he has come through on a number of his campaign promises so saying he has not is the height of willful blindness...
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| | | | Re: Means nothing... Those running for president never explain how they will deal with a hostile congress.
I assume the President still has his BB. That caused a problem for security. At least he has some knowledge of tech.
Those of you who have rapport with the younger, more internet population need to keep reminding them what these bills would take away.
Also remind Grandma that some stuff she might post on Facebook would fall in the category. She could post a recipe from a cookbook she liked or scan a professional photo taken of kids. Some overzealous idiot would take that the wrong way.
Righthaven just got busted, but that doesn't mean someone else won't take their place.
BTW, there's a lot of older folks that don't side with the right wing. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | said by coldmoon:1. Repeal of DNDT
2. end the Iraq war and bring the troops home
3. Affordable Health Care act
4. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009
5. Saved GM and Chrysler (part of keeping the economy from going completely off the cliff)
6. Higher gas mileage standards
7. Tougher environmental regulations for cleaner air and water
8. Found and took out Osama Bin-Laden + a great number of other high ranking terrorists
9. Attempted to kill of GITMO - congress wouldn't let him do it...
etc...
OH LETS SEE.....
1.Didnt happend till JUST NOW right when elections are coming up
2. ditto
3. an act that NO ONE WANTED
4. ok ill give him this one
5. GM and the banks should be been left to fail we would of been better off
6. meh how about more money in Fuelcell cars?
7. great now we have import MORE oil
8. and then announce it to the world be for the intel could be used pissing off the NSA AND CIA
9. calling BS here
and ill add 10. UPHELD WARRANT LESS WIRETAPPING!
yea bang up job right there hope the door hits him on the way out of the White House
not perfict? more like the worst thing EVER to happen to the US
we have lost more rights under his admin then any one else
and one more 11. nearly gutted NASA the money he gave the banks could of kept the shuttle flying for 40 years
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| Re: Means nothing... said by elios:said by coldmoon:1. Repeal of DNDT
2. end the Iraq war and bring the troops home
3. Affordable Health Care act
4. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009
5. Saved GM and Chrysler (part of keeping the economy from going completely off the cliff)
6. Higher gas mileage standards
7. Tougher environmental regulations for cleaner air and water
8. Found and took out Osama Bin-Laden + a great number of other high ranking terrorists
9. Attempted to kill of GITMO - congress wouldn't let him do it...
etc...
OH LETS SEE..... 1.Didnt happend till JUST NOW right when elections are coming up 2. ditto 3. an act that NO ONE WANTED 4. ok ill give him this one 5. GM and the banks should be been left to fail we would of been better off 6. meh how about more money in Fuelcell cars? 7. great now we have import MORE oil 8. and then announce it to the world be for the intel could be used pissing off the NSA AND CIA 9. calling BS here and ill add 10. UPHELD WARRANT LESS WIRETAPPING! yea bang up job right there hope the door hits him on the way out of the White House not perfict? more like the worst thing EVER to happen to the US we have lost more rights under his admin then any one else and one more 11. nearly gutted NASA the money he gave the banks could of kept the shuttle flying for 40 years GG Obama GG One important note - I did not say anything about the popularity or how these things came to be; just that he made promises and regardless of how, he made good on them...
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| | SOPA COULD be the greatest legislation ever With a few minor little changes... Things like the CEO and President of any company found to either maliciously or in error cause the disruption of any website or service be jailed for a minimum 10 years for the first offense AND that the companies be civilly held to 1000 times the amount of damage suffered by anyone WITH of course the "victim" allowed to make up what their damage was and the value of it, just as the recording industry does today. These two little changes would make it a GREAT bill | |
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00000 | Myself I heard this will affect you if you own websites.....I do...but how can they shut down your website? | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Myself ICE basically steals the domain of the site which offends one of the parent corporations of the US government forcing DNS redirects to their little page claiming they had a justifiable right to steal domains.
Problem is the DOJ and ICE being government agencies are technologically inept and will always hit other domains at the same time. so if yours is totally legal you could still get taken offline.
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| | Sopa brick wall He said he wouldn't sign the ndaa and he did anyway. Even if he doesn't sign sopa/pipa, some one else will  | |
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| | Sopa/Pipa If any of these laws get passed, I hope people have enough sense to just cancel their internet service and do without. Maybe that will teach the government and the corporations that backed the bills, that consumers mean business and we are tired of being lied to, told what to do, and seen as nothing but dollar signs. | |
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| Get rid of all of it While we're at it, let's get rid of ALL copyright and trademark laws. Make everything free! That way no artist, musician, writer, actor, film company, producer, director and so on get paid for ANYTHING. What a wonderful world it would be. Imagine the multitudes of writers burning the midnight oil, slavishly working to write the next great American novel just to see it published around the world on the internet for all the world to see...for free! And he won't get a nickel for it! What a concept! Everyone will be doing it!
SOPA is about copyright infringement on the internet. SOPA has its heart in the right place but it needs more thought and more input from technology companies on how to handle it. The idea behind SOPA is sound. | |
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