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Comments on news posted 2012-03-21 12:52:05: Just about two years ago the FCC introduced our first ever national broadband plan. While designed to appear comprehensive and ambitious, I noted at the time that beyond the chocolate-flavored exterior lay a very hollow project. ..

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jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

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reply to jjeffeory

Re: No Broadband Available

...and the previous year (2010) you were in the Wealthiest county in America. »agbeat.com/real-estate-news-even···america/

Here's the list in descending order:

Loudoun County, VA
Fairfax County, VA
Howard County, MD
Hunterdon County, NJ
Somerset County, NJ
Fairfax City, VA
Morris County, NJ
Douglas County, CO
Arlington County, VA
Montgomery County, MD
Nassau County, NY
Stafford County, VA
Calvert County, MD
Prince William County, VA
Putnam County, NY
Goochland County, VA
Williamson County, TN
Marin County, CA
Santa Clara County, CA
Forsyth County, GA
Charles County, MD
Summit County, UT
Alexandria City, VA
Chester County, PA
Suffolk County, NY

Oh here's the most recent data:
»www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/money/survey···a-021412

Loudoun County ranked first with a median household income of $119,000 a year. Fairfax County came in second with $103,000.
Several other D.C. suburbs followed:
#3 Howard County with 101,771,
#5 Arlington County with $94,986
#7 Stafford County with $94,317
#9 Prince William County with $92,655
#12 Montgomery County with $89,155
Three southern Maryland counties rounded out the list:
#13 Calvert County with $88,862
#14 St. Mary's County with $88,444
#15 Charles County with $87,007

Read more: »www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/money/survey···pmF4dshb


Telco

join:2008-12-19
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reply to 25139889

Re: Gov't FTTH

The Aussies have got it right on this front. Much like interstates, their Federal government is building a wholesale FTTH network, which any carrier can use to resell a service.

This is the ONLY way we will ever bring competition to America. With FIOS and Uverse roll-outs effectively over, the vast majority of Americans are stuck at the whims of monopolies.

On a side note, it's also just laughable to read about the 100MB/s services offered in France and then see how little they pay for it. Reaganites truly screwed us up and put us years behind the rest of the world.

Republicans appoint their cronies into key positions in the FCC, FDA, USDA etc and then hamper their ability to do anything. But hey, at least we waste more on defense than the next 17 nations combined. What an achievement, considering it also has the lowest ROI of any tax dollar spent.


Telco

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reply to HiDesert

Re: Far from competitive

We have become a plutocratic oligarch nation, where our future is determined not by the people but whomever has been appointed to the SCOTUS and their political ideology.

In terms of getting screwed, it's no coincidence that during the 1929 Depression, 1987 recession, and now the devastating 2007 recession, congress was controlled by Republicans.

These people have always put lining the pockets of their masters over the best interests of America and 'We the People'.


Telco

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reply to HaloFans

Re: What? Our national broadband plan is fine!



Telco

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reply to gorehound

Re: Gov't FTTH

said by gorehound:

No the FCC is a joke.And our Government will not truly set things straight.They are all on the take and they all gladly take the Telcos Money.
FRAK YOU WASHINGTON !

FCC is not a joke, it's what you make it. The GOP has driven every and any government agency into the ground.

Why do you think there is significantly more competition in other big gov countries that were supposed to fail 50 years ago? Why do you think there are uniform wireless spectrum bands and cell phones cannot be locked down to one network? How about 5 to 10 broadband providers and wireless companies to choose from? Because they have consumer protection bodies like the one the GOP has killed and their government actually looks out for their citizens - 'We the People'.

Heck, why do you think GMO food is banned or must be indicated on the label in most other developed countries? Same deal with the pink slime used in our ground beef, where they do not even inform us of this.

No government means corporations and the few get to call the shots and that is indeed the America the Republicans want and envision.


coldmoon
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reply to FFH

Re: Forget public, private anything

said by FFH:

said by Corehhi:

The Government is not a business and everything they get involved with ends up twisted and corrupt. The ISP's would eat them alive.

Besides, the US has much higher priority needs for government dollars than building FTTH. Like a crumbling road infrastructure; & bridges; & sewer systems; etc. Start fixing those before making sure the citizens can get HD porn at lower prices.

Trying to put this into the framework of a Hobson's choice is a major part of the problem and why nothing is getting done. I say do it all and then reap the rewards later...there is too much "i want my profit NOW!" going on when investors should stop being hyperactive and start focusing on the long term...
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wiid

join:2008-02-17
Outland
reply to Telco

Re: Gov't FTTH

said by Telco See ProfileReaganites truly screwed us up and put us years behind the rest of the world.

Republicans appoint their cronies into key positions in the FCC, FDA, USDA etc and then hamper their ability to do anything. But hey, at least we waste more on defense than the next 17 nations combined. What an achievement, considering it also has the lowest ROhI of any tax dollar spent.

It must be different on your planet. On my planet Mr. Hope and Change runs the party that controls our FCC.

In my reality Reagan was president before the internet or FCC regulation of it.


nothing00

join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY
reply to jjeffeory

Re: No Broadband Available

Goochland? Really?


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to ArlynMosey

Re: Gov't FTTH

what problems? You have choices for broadband; Lets see; Comcast TWC, WOW! RCN, Cablevision, ViaSat, U-Versee/ATT, and many other indies that this site is always raving about- Sonic.net where they're pulling a Sprint and trying to build 2 networks.

And Cities should NOT wire themselves. They are there to PROTECT not to profit off people. Cities and towns go out and start shopping for bonds that takes YEARS AND YEARS to pay off and are STILL in debt. That bond money should be going to pay for services the people NEED that the city provides; maybe a new fire truck or 2, new police cars, new EMSes, should i go on?

And why should the gov't step in? Private companies fill the caps as needed and where needed. And people are free to start their own ISP.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to ArrayList

ya and so does the cost of milk but you don't see anyone asking the gov't to step in about that.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to slynerve

yah the same as my tax money is going to pay for national rail system, and Amtrak which are worthless to people. Over priced services that we can get else where.

The gov't has NO business trying to be a business. And again; if you feel that the current businesses are NOT providing; go fill that gap and compete by starting your own company; the same as this country was built on and stop complaining about something that can be done about it.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to gorehound

The FCC has NO control over the Internet time to move on.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to Telco

Yes the FCC is a joke. It was created to protect the wireless spectrum for radio networks. NOT for phone services, nor for TV/Media and surely not for the Internet.

The FCC needs to go back to doing what it was created to do so and stay out o the business that it does NOT have any control over.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to Telco

FiOS was over the minute it started being built. The uptake on it was over rated and anyone could have told you that they would have NEVER gotten the amount of customers that were projected anytime soon.

The same will happen with any other network. You going to force a customer to switch? I don't think so.

And the Aussies also owned that phone network some time. You try doing that in the US and see how fast the FCC and alike are not in court.

The USDA and the FDA do their jobs. That they were created for - the FCC does NOT and tries to do what ever they want until they're sued.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to FFH

Re: Forget public, private anything

RIGHT RIGHT!


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to VerizonSlave

Re: 3 Mbps DSL!?!

you don't have one you have choices. Not anyones problem you choose not to use other services.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to patcat88

Re: private businesses always work best

except a private business can not operate a police department.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to LoudounVA

Re: No Broadband Available

Exclusive deals on most things are gone. except when it comes to private property MDU deals- the FCC over stepped their boundaries there and they know it. and can NOT force that rule.

also you are free to sign up with ViaSat and you are free to create you own Wireless ISP to serve you and your neighbors. And with that NOBODY is restricting you from competition. They choose NOT to service you do to ROI which is their right.

No such things as monopolies you have choices.



FFH
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to coldmoon

Re: Forget public, private anything

said by coldmoon:

Trying to put this into the framework of a Hobson's choice is a major part of the problem and why nothing is getting done.

I say do it all and then reap the rewards later

...there is too much "i want my profit NOW!" going on when investors should stop being hyperactive and start focusing on the long term...

And that is why the US deficit is so huge and why our nation will be facing the same kind of bankruptcy that Greece and other EU countries are going thru. You can't keep spending 50% more than the government is taking in and have your economy survive.
--
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
»www.politico.com/2012-election/


Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to 25139889

Re: Gov't FTTH

You really do have no clue.

Naming every ISP out there doesnt show competition. In virtually every single market you have 1 or 2 choices of actual broadband. If you are very lucky you may have 2 or 3.

Cities are there to serve their people the way the people want to be served. If they (the people) decide they want to put up Christmas lights on every house, tree, bush, and building in the city and and want the city to do and vote to approve it, then the city damn well better be putting Christmas lights up and figure out how to maintain it. In the same sense, if a city is not happy with the incumbents and the people want to have the city serve them broadband, then the city is obligated to serve them. THAT is the reason the are elected.

Now move along so the adults can talk.


slynerve

join:2011-04-11

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said by 25139889:

yah the same as my tax money is going to pay for national rail system, and Amtrak which are worthless to people. Over priced services that we can get else where.

The gov't has NO business trying to be a business. And again; if you feel that the current businesses are NOT providing; go fill that gap and compete by starting your own company; the same as this country was built on and stop complaining about something that can be done about it.

Please explain to me how this is a possibility when they incumbents forbid such things from happening. No, really, please. Tell me. I can't lease poles because cable has most of them tied up and reserved spaces for possible future expansions. I can't dig anywhere because telcos have the right to ground. So, again: what is someone to do when the deck is stacked and the dealer is crooked?

I also point out that the ISPs have bilked the government out of millions for rural broadband expansion and no one is angry at the thieves - the ISPs - but rather places blame on the people who were stole from - the government and American people. That's the definition of an inside job: they buy their men and women into the system and give themselves huge swaths of money at the expense of the people. But rather than changing this we just yell "FREE TRADE!" and elect people who will make it easier for them to do more of the same.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to 25139889

Here we go.....

The go build your own network defense. LOL!


Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to 25139889

I think it is time for you to do a little review and learn yourself before you continue spouting off and looking like a fool.


Crusty

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reply to HaloFans

Re: What? Our national broadband plan is fine!

said by HaloFans:

With giant corporations laying down a reliable infrastructure servicing Americans, what appears to be the problem? Everyone has Internet right? You guys should be thanking these giant corporations for building infrastructures for you to use.

In fact, people should be writing letters to Congress stating their disapproval with local community fiber wiring projects and contempt at Google for implementing an anti-competitive infrastructure for home consumers. Why are people trying to solve a problem that's already been solved? Are you people anti-American?

America has the best Internet compared to its Canadian brethren and brothers in the polar north and south. Appreciate and pay more of your hard earned money to honor these beloved corporations for serving America proud. Bend over Americans and cheer for your corporate heroes!

Love the sarcasm. LOL

In all seriousness though, America does need a vast improvement to it's infrastructure for Internet access. A those giant corporations need to "give back" to support the needs of the next decade.

We do need much more competition and much better rates.

For those of you who frown at this, consider the folks who don't live in major areas. Consider the folks that are truly limited to only TWO isp's and both refuse to fix\upgrade your town/towns.

with the way the use of the internet is growing, and will continue to grow, unless something is done to address the lack of connectivity, reliability and throughput, the issues we see today will only get worse....much worse. Put it in perspective: Can you think of a single person over 18 and under 30 in your life that isn't connected to the interweb in one way or form? Exactly, the "need" and "use" will be much much heavier in years to come.

Paying $60 a month for 1.5-2mb connection is ridiculous. However, to stay connected to my family, friends and work, I must continue to pay.

Telco

join:2008-12-19

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Re: Gov't FTTH

So you are implying that everyone should be able to broadcast on any frequency..

Do you have any idea about how wireless work???


Telco

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said by 25139889:

The FCC has NO control over the Internet time to move on.

Um that's the problem.

Telco

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reply to wiid

Well said, as RWers do indeed live on their own planet. The Big Government world has handed it to America yet your dimwitted ilk still spew out the same baseless nonsense and failed minimum government creed from Reagan.

Obama has been in office for 3 years, he cannot repair all of the damage done by RWers and certainly not overnight. This is just another thing on the list that needs to be repaired.


Telco

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reply to 25139889

I thought you said we had lots of choice.

Therefore, we need a new agency that handles all forms of communication. One guess which party will totally oppose this? Hint: the idiot speaker is from your state.

By the way, the Aussies are building a brand new, from the ground on up, wholesale FTTH network.


wiid

join:2008-02-17
Outland
reply to Telco

said by Telco:

FCC is not a joke, it's what you make it. The GOP has driven every and any government agency into the ground.

Why do you think there is significantly more competition in other big gov countries that were supposed to fail 50 years ago? Why do you think there are uniform wireless spectrum bands and cell phones cannot be locked down to one network? How about 5 to 10 broadband providers and wireless companies to choose from? Because they have consumer protection bodies like the one the GOP has killed and their government actually looks out for their citizens - 'We the People'.

Heck, why do you think GMO food is banned or must be indicated on the label in most other developed countries? Same deal with the pink slime used in our ground beef, where they do not even inform us of this.

No government means corporations and the few get to call the shots and that is indeed the America the Republicans want and envision.

Aside from unhelpful and erroneous partisan bashing. Do you have any suggestions for the party in power?

Regarding those countries that were supposed to fail ... Greece, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Iceland??

Have you noted the economic stagnation in Japan? How about repression in China? Did you recently check the Canadian forums ISP reviews?

Did Denmarks or Spains windmill problems elude your notice? What black solid fossil fuel is Germany relying on for new power plants?

We have problems here, but much of our planet isn't doing much better.

Telco

join:2008-12-19
reply to 25139889

Does the Republican party have a team of idiots they send out to every board to post simplistic hyperbolic nonsense?