Gov't FTTH and lets assume; that you think the FCC should strip the current providers of their network and create an FTTH network at the cost of my tax money?
We have companies that compete and companies that will keep expanding. Just because we don't have a national FTTH network thanks to our Gov't doesn't mean we don't have anything.
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said by Telco:Yes
Does the Republican party have a team of idiots they send out to every board to post simplistic hyperbolic nonsense?
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said by 25139889:Please explain to me how this is a possibility when they incumbents forbid such things from happening. No, really, please. Tell me. I can't lease poles because cable has most of them tied up and reserved spaces for possible future expansions. I can't dig anywhere because telcos have the right to ground. So, again: what is someone to do when the deck is stacked and the dealer is crooked?
yah the same as my tax money is going to pay for national rail system, and Amtrak which are worthless to people. Over priced services that we can get else where.
The gov't has NO business trying to be a business. And again; if you feel that the current businesses are NOT providing; go fill that gap and compete by starting your own company; the same as this country was built on and stop complaining about something that can be done about it.
I also point out that the ISPs have bilked the government out of millions for rural broadband expansion and no one is angry at the thieves - the ISPs - but rather places blame on the people who were stole from - the government and American people. That's the definition of an inside job: they buy their men and women into the system and give themselves huge swaths of money at the expense of the people. But rather than changing this we just yell "FREE TRADE!" and elect people who will make it easier for them to do more of the same.
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said by gorehound:FCC is not a joke, it's what you make it. The GOP has driven every and any government agency into the ground.
No the FCC is a joke.And our Government will not truly set things straight.They are all on the take and they all gladly take the Telcos Money.
FRAK YOU WASHINGTON !
Why do you think there is significantly more competition in other big gov countries that were supposed to fail 50 years ago? Why do you think there are uniform wireless spectrum bands and cell phones cannot be locked down to one network? How about 5 to 10 broadband providers and wireless companies to choose from? Because they have consumer protection bodies like the one the GOP has killed and their government actually looks out for their citizens - 'We the People'.
Heck, why do you think GMO food is banned or must be indicated on the label in most other developed countries? Same deal with the pink slime used in our ground beef, where they do not even inform us of this.
No government means corporations and the few get to call the shots and that is indeed the America the Republicans want and envision.
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said by wiid:Ah yes, the knee-jerk cherry-picking of countries. I was thinking more along the lines of France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, Netherlands, Belgium, Australia etc.
Aside from unhelpful and erroneous partisan bashing. Do you have any suggestions for the party in power?
Regarding those countries that were supposed to fail ... Greece, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Iceland??
Have you noted the economic stagnation in Japan? How about repression in China? Did you recently check the Canadian forums ISP reviews?
Did Denmarks or Spains windmill problems elude your notice? What black solid fossil fuel is Germany relying on for new power plants?
We have problems here, but much of our planet isn't doing much better.
No partisan bashing at all, it's simply rehashing where the parties stand on these issues. The GOP would rather spend $750 Billion every year on defense than invest a single $1 on infrastructure, America, or Americans.
Actually, it's widely know outside Faux news that the reason Japan stagnated was because they pursued decade long austerity measures; similar to what is proposed by the GOP. Therefore, much like Greece, rather than growing they simply stagnated.
Just in case you have not noticed but the #2 economy in the world is now communist China. Have you seen the infrastructure in China? It makes a complete mockery out of every single Red State combined. Heck, find me one airport in America that comes even close to Beijing International.
The rest is just nonsense considering the sheer number of nations RWers label Big Government that have lower unemployment rates, lower deficits, a high quality of life, 1000 times newer and better infrastructure, and (on topic) 100MB/s broadband connections versus our 3MB DSL.
You also did not explain how it is that Big Government nations can have 5 to 10 broadband providers, whereas the majority of Americans typically have 1. 3MB DSL is not broadband, it's a joke.
In fact, the biggest government / high taxing nation of them all
has the second fastest speeds and once again, RWer rhetoric loses.
Then again why am I even talking with anyone who is a RWer about tech. The majority of innovation and tech mecca of America comes from the uber liberal San Fran area.
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said by 25139889:Um that's the problem.
The FCC has NO control over the Internet time to move on.
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It must be different on your planet. On my planet Mr. Hope and Change runs the party that controls our FCC.
said by Telco Reaganites truly screwed us up and put us years behind the rest of the world.
Republicans appoint their cronies into key positions in the FCC, FDA, USDA etc and then hamper their ability to do anything. But hey, at least we waste more on defense than the next 17 nations combined. What an achievement, considering it also has the lowest ROhI of any tax dollar spent.
In my reality Reagan was president before the internet or FCC regulation of it.
the U.S. broadband plan is.... ...to do what the incumbents want to do.
and what's the one thing incumbents absolutely do not want?
ergo, there will be no competition unless we get a broadband plan that isn't dictated by the incumbents.
I predict this will not happen in my lifetime.
Forget public, private anything The Government is not a business and everything they get involved with ends up twisted and corrupt. The ISP's would eat them alive.
private businesses always work best Lets start by privatizing all police forces in the USA. You "subscribe" to a "plan" for 911 responses. If you dont subscribe to a private police force, the number 911 on your phone will forward to the local army base, and if a foreign national is involved, the army will respond, if not, your out of luck. It was your choice to not buy protection.
Not great Competition went out a long time ago, in areas not upgraded to FIOS or U-verse, dsl is no match for cable they simply can't compete.
I probably have the best competition market wise available, we have cablevision or FIOS, and they seem to for the moment be keeping each other from going to capped internet, also the speed war FIOS and Cablevision plays helps the speeds we get, but they don't compete on the most important aspect price, with the exception of promotional pricing to lure subscribers away from each other.
I know it's not going to happen, the US being in the political climate where Verizon and AT&T have bought congress, but a national FIOS network that each company could offer services on would really level the playing field and create more competition, it's also simply a more efficient and effective way to deploy broadband nationwide.
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| |said by HaloFans:Love the sarcasm. LOL
With giant corporations laying down a reliable infrastructure servicing Americans, what appears to be the problem? Everyone has Internet right? You guys should be thanking these giant corporations for building infrastructures for you to use.
In fact, people should be writing letters to Congress stating their disapproval with local community fiber wiring projects and contempt at Google for implementing an anti-competitive infrastructure for home consumers. Why are people trying to solve a problem that's already been solved? Are you people anti-American?
America has the best Internet compared to its Canadian brethren and brothers in the polar north and south. Appreciate and pay more of your hard earned money to honor these beloved corporations for serving America proud. Bend over Americans and cheer for your corporate heroes!
In all seriousness though, America does need a vast improvement to it's infrastructure for Internet access. A those giant corporations need to "give back" to support the needs of the next decade.
We do need much more competition and much better rates.
For those of you who frown at this, consider the folks who don't live in major areas. Consider the folks that are truly limited to only TWO isp's and both refuse to fix\upgrade your town/towns.
with the way the use of the internet is growing, and will continue to grow, unless something is done to address the lack of connectivity, reliability and throughput, the issues we see today will only get worse....much worse. Put it in perspective: Can you think of a single person over 18 and under 30 in your life that isn't connected to the interweb in one way or form? Exactly, the "need" and "use" will be much much heavier in years to come.
Paying $60 a month for 1.5-2mb connection is ridiculous. However, to stay connected to my family, friends and work, I must continue to pay.
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said by brianiscool:I dont want a free FCC router that puts more against my cap...
For the free router : ) Let me know when I can keep it after you're done with the broadband tests.