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Comments on news posted 2012-03-23 08:58:16: We've noted for some time that Verizon's FiOS expansion is over, with the exception of areas (mostly large cities) where they're still pursuing franchise build-out obligations. ..

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anon823

@mich.net
reply to PapaMidnight

Re: And that data usage...

Yea that's is part of my point... It's probably going to use at least 2GB for the movie, and probably have to be priced less than that to compete with the Kiosks...

I'd have to guess they are going to want to charge that bandwidth against you to try to push you into a higher data tier... Less tech savvy people might not be able to add up how much it's really going to cost them to use the service.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

1 recommendation

reply to anon823
said by anon823 :

"Monthly service starts at $60 a month but comes with a 10 gigabyte cap" »Verizon Announces Fixed Residential LTE Service

LOL. This is why I laugh at this joke called "Fixed residential LTE service". It's next to useless with these caps.


amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to PapaMidnight
said by PapaMidnight:

said by anon823 :

An HD movie shown at 1GB.

HD Movie at 1GB?! With what codec and compression settings?
Try 4 (for decent 720p). 2-3 conservatively speaking and compressed to hell with low-quality AAC audio.

No kidding. A standard single layer DVD is 4.7GB, and that's 480p. If an HD movie could have fit in 1GB, Blu-ray would have never been needed.


banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
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reply to 34764170
Exactly. Anyone who thinks wireless is a viable alternative to wireline service for home broadband is either living in a dream world or a very light user. With current wireless service caps, combined with the ever-increasing array of Internet-connected devices in the home, streaming video, et al., a 10GB monthly allowance is flat-out ridiculous.

Which is exactly why providers want everyone using it instead of wireline service. They stand to make huge profits on overage gigs, which they'll all charge a similarly unreasonable amount for.

It'll be a cold day in hell when I switch to wireless broadband for my entire home. Either that, or someday after I win the lotto and feel like flushing handfuls of cash down the latrine.
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"The counsel of fools is all the more dangerous the more of them there are." -Ólafr Höskuldsson

Telco

join:2008-12-19

1 recommendation

reply to serge87

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

It's time our nation start a national project to install FTTH, just like we did with roads, water, electricity etc.

Imagine the hundreds of thousands of jobs it would create alone.


Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
We "tried" and failed. I think the Broadband Stimulus was supposed to go towards some FTTP.


Smith6612
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North Tonawanda, NY
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reply to 34764170
But I'm not unfortunately . If I come across a capped connection I run it right to the point where the meter might think I've gone over and then shut the connection down. Aka, when I was stuck using a 3G connection with a 3GB cap. Blew through the cap in a few hours of normal usage.

Slow connections? I just keep them maxed until I get what I need done.


Verizon Rep

@comcast.net
reply to Smith6612
Not to mention that Ivan's replacement, Lowell McAdam, came over from the wireless side of the business. Any community that has been informed that they won't benefit from the fiber buildout should have the right, w/o the threat of Incumbent litigation, to provision municipal fiber.


S_engineer
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Chicago, IL

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reply to Telco
said by Telco:

It's time our nation start a national project to install FTTH, just like we did with roads, water, electricity etc.

Imagine the hundreds of thousands of jobs it would create alone.

That's good, but I'd take it several steps further....regulate it as a utililty. Install federal, or local pucs to regulate this utility per region. Define a cap as a price forcing the isps to justify cap range for in the given context of it's technology ( i.e. Fios vs Docsis 3). Extend this to wireless as well. All Pucs are to be made up of engineers with zero political affiliation. Also forcing isps to justify all price increases...not to just placate Wall Street. Now some will argue that this would be a socialist gov't take over, well...I hope you use that same argument for those that monitor communications.

Remember...if it's got a meter, it's a utility
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skuv

@rr.com
reply to Telco
Unless you are going to get private citizens to do it themselves without permits, it's not going to happen.

The telco lobbyists control this. If it's going to get done, it's going to get done under their terms and for their benefit.


aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to 34764170

Re: And that data usage...

said by 34764170:

said by anon823 :

"Monthly service starts at $60 a month but comes with a 10 gigabyte cap" »Verizon Announces Fixed Residential LTE Service

LOL. This is why I laugh at this joke called "Fixed residential LTE service". It's next to useless with these caps.

But is will also be cheaper than the Satellite broadband which is their competition.


ptrowski
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Putnam, CT
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reply to 45612019

Re: This is everything that's wrong with America.

said by 45612019:

You Americans are digging your own grave with your unchecked greed.

Have fun being a third world banana republic to the upcoming Chinese-dominated world, Americans.

Says the guy posting from New York, NY.
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"So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

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Telco

join:2008-12-19

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reply to S_engineer

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

We did it with the interstates, why not do the same with something as crucial as our data networks...

I noticed the Aussies are rolling out a national wholesale FTTH network. That way their government owns and control the underlying infrastructure, while much like a road, any number of businesses can utilize it and resell their services over it.

Once again government will have managed to create a significantly more competitive market than the private sector alone; which in reality, contrary to GOP rhetoric, for obvious reasons hates competition.

The fact is that the private sector does not have the stomach for long-term investments mandatory for projects like this.

This quarterly-driven outlook is also why the world has significantly overtaken us in infrastructure and large scale projects and quite frankly it's a weakness that countries like China are exploiting.

This private only policy post Reagan has failed America in every aspect.

Telco

join:2008-12-19

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reply to Smith6612
We have never tried anything like this on a national level, it;s all smoke and mirrors. The tools we have given the FCC for example are a joke and useless.

GOP voted against any broadband initiatives.


S_engineer
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reply to ptrowski

Re: This is everything that's wrong with America.

yeah, but it's recognized worldwide!


kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
reply to Verizon Rep

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

said by Verizon Rep :

Any community that has been informed that they won't benefit from the fiber buildout should have the right, w/o the threat of Incumbent litigation, to provision municipal fiber.

If building fiber in a community is such a sure thing (profit-wise); why don't you go buy a shovel, and start digging? Why does the government have to do it?

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY

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reply to ptrowski

Re: This is everything that's wrong with America.

He's a troll, not worth responding to.

Winston Churchill put it best: "Americans always do the right thing, after they exhaust all other options."

In spite of all the naysayers, we'll figure it out sooner or later.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to aaronwt

Re: And that data usage...

said by aaronwt:

But is will also be cheaper than the Satellite broadband which is their competition.

Sat broadband is a complete and utter joke.

tdar

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Satellite Beach, FL
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reply to Jeffrey

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

said by Jeffrey:

said by Tomek:

Companies are driven by profit. Investors want their low-tax income and care less.
I remember when verizon was defending FIOS push.
And now I can actually see the point. With the advent of mobile devices people are no longer connected at home.

We'll we're connected everywhere now, but if you asked me "Do you cancel your Fios or do you cancel your cell phone", I'm cancelling my cell phone. High speed internet connectivity in the home is extremely important to me.

Your comment shows just how out of touch Wall Street is. It's clear that you are willing to pay for both your Verizon Cell Phone AND your Verizon FIOS. Only a idiot or a Wall Streeter (sorry for the redundancy) would set up a situation were they receive one recurring revenue stream where they could have TWO.

tdar

join:2004-04-05
Satellite Beach, FL
kudos:1

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reply to Crookshanks

Re: This is everything that's wrong with America.

said by Crookshanks:

He's a troll, not worth responding to.

Winston Churchill put it best: "Americans always do the right thing, after they exhaust all other options."

In spite of all the naysayers, we'll figure it out sooner or later.

Except in Mr. Churchill's time you had time to make mistakes given the low level of competition, now not so much.

Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
reply to kontos

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

Because we want you to have to pay for our pornography downloads.

SLAMtech

join:2009-12-03
kudos:1

No more upgrades?

Does this also mean Verizon is not investing in any of there copper network? No VDSL2? I know its not ftth but with no upgrades at all cable will run the wireline business while Verizon will dominate wireless. Its a win - win for both companies and a huge loss for the consumers who actually pay for these services.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Telco

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

said by Telco:

We did it with the interstates, why not do the same with something as crucial as our data networks...

I noticed the Aussies are rolling out a national wholesale FTTH network. That way their government owns and control the underlying infrastructure, while much like a road, any number of businesses can utilize it and resell their services over it.

No thank you. I don't want to live in a country where the government can control Internet traffic. Look at Middle Eastern countries where the government can and does block or turn off Internet Access.

Heck, look at the SOPA/PIPA acts and tell me you want the US Government regulating things.

No F-ing way.


MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1
reply to Tomek
Sorry, but this seems completely off base, with incredibly stringent wireless teirs home broadband is more important that it was when smartphones came out, your never going to sit around and surf youtube and watch netflix regularly over a LTE connection unless the pricing changes drastically, even our tablets users have shown a clear preference for wifi only devices because cellular data is too expensive.

Not to mention simply physics, their will always be more bandwidth at cheaper prices over wired connections, it's simply a extremely less finite resource than wireless spectrum.

Stopping the FIOS rollout was about one thing short term investor thinking, which is why america is falling behind, short term quick buck thinking.


bbeesley
VIP
join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
kudos:5
reply to itguy05
said by itguy05:

I don't want to live in a country where the government can control Internet traffic.

While I would personally like to see some sort of effort to expand our broadband capabilities, I too have a strong distrust in having the government do it.

Our government has proven itself time and time again to be careless of our privacy and wasteful of our dollars

We need a solution but I just don't believe having the government implement and control it is an appropriate one.


kontos
xyzzy

join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY
reply to Angrychair
but, I'm only interested in your porn uploads!


S_engineer
Premium
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Chicago, IL

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reply to itguy05
Please...don't confuse our current gov't with effective gov't...if effective gov't had been in place SOPA/PIPA would have never reached the floor, and a law enforcement arm of the federal gov't (I.C.E) wouldn't be in servitude of the MPAA/RIAA.
And as far as controling Internet traffic, the gov't already monitors all traffic, outsources communication monitoring to ATT, Verizon, and others, and allows companies to datamine all of your personal information for the purpose of building aggregate personal profiles so you can be more efficiently advertised to. That's okay huh?
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ghfghfgh

@rr.com
reply to SLAMtech

Re: No more upgrades?

Verizon knows only one word---monopoly. They don't know how to compete in anything. They are dying just as Kodak did. You can't blame the Chinese on this. If they sold off just one FIOS build to somebody who was hungry, the buyer could teach Verizon how to run a business.

Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
reply to kontos

Re: "Wall Street punished us for investing in FIOS."

At least you're in the lucid majority when it comes to something.


alchav

join:2002-05-17
Saint George, UT
Reviews:
·ooma
reply to FloridaBoy
said by FloridaBoy:

said by S_engineer:

So anything that moves America forward, gets pushback from the new American aristocracy known as Wall Street. Chinese wages...here we come!

C'mon S, got to keep that stock price up!! Never mind a bigger payout later, we need cash now!!

Verizon took a big chance with FTTH, and they laid a lot of Fiber, but did you Guys buy it up? No, you want more competition and cheaper rates. Yes, Verizon is a Business and they need to make a profit to run this Business or they won't be around tomorrow. Verizon expansion may have stopped, but like any Business if you approach them with a sizable interest, I'm sure Verizon will listen.