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Os
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2012-Jun-7 10:56 am
Frontier Has to Do SomethingVerizon is laughing at you for buying their damaged goods.
But you don't have wireless to fall back on. If you keep riding the copper pipe with 3 Mbps DSL, you'll be in bankruptcy sooner than a newspaper.
Of their markets, the only places that might see a FTTN deployment are Rochester and Charleston/Huntington that I can think of. Beyond that, their larger markets I believe are covered by FiOS builds by VZ or too small to do much of anything with in a CEO's eyes. |
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I would like to know what the plan is for all the fiber that they have laid in the central WI area. It's been sitting in the ground for a year now. They put it on all of the county highways so it wasn't a cheap endeavor but trying to get any information out of them is about impossible. |
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Sty
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2012-Jun-7 11:07 am
FrontierOne year and our county will be covered with fiber to the home...I will thoroughly enjoy canceling frontier..Haha |
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slimtim join:2002-12-12 Cleveland, TN
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Sty, Which county is that, and any homes for sale/rent? |
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to Os
Re: Frontier Has to Do SomethingAlso, AT&T has a lot of land line markets they would like to sell... maybe Frontier would be interested?
Looks like Frontier is building their business by purchasing all their stuff trough ebay. |
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wesm Premium Member join:1999-07-29 Seattle, WA
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wesm
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2012-Jun-7 1:22 pm
Most obvious statement ever..."'If we changed, we may have to change out set top boxes on [existing FiOS customers],'" Shassian said.
That would be an astounding undertaking. Frontier doesn't break out FiOS video customers, but their last quarterly report says they have 536,000 video subscribers, and since roughly 18% of their footprint can get FiOS, let's say they have 97,000 FiOS TV subs.
At an average of 2.5 (to keep the over/under clean) set top boxes per household, that comes out to 242,500 devices to replace assuming nobody gets pissed and quits or reduces service. At $50/box (a low number, but let's be generous), that is $12,125,000. Just for the boxes. Not to mention labor for employees to handle the install, additional customer support calls, etc.
My reaction: :O |
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Smith6612 MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY ·Charter Ubee EU2251 Ubiquiti UAP-IW-HD Ubiquiti UniFi AP-AC-HD
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said by wesm:"'If we changed, we may have to change out set top boxes on [existing FiOS customers],'" Shassian said.
That would be an astounding undertaking. Frontier doesn't break out FiOS video customers, but their last quarterly report says they have 536,000 video subscribers, and since roughly 18% of their footprint can get FiOS, let's say they have 97,000 FiOS TV subs.
At an average of 2.5 (to keep the over/under clean) set top boxes per household, that comes out to 242,500 devices to replace assuming nobody gets pissed and quits or reduces service. At $50/box (a low number, but let's be generous), that is $12,125,000. Just for the boxes. Not to mention labor for employees to handle the install, additional customer support calls, etc.
My reaction: :O My question to that is, even if they were to change out their video delivery method, don't the Set Top Boxes already do services such as On-Demand over MoCa/The Internet? Couldn't Frontier simply push a few software upgrades that disables the portion of the set top box that utilizes QAM and set it up instead to use strictly IPTV over MoCa (or Ethernet)? |
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Oh_No
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2012-Jun-7 2:58 pm
InterestingSo out of the 10 frontier customers that will qualify for Uverse, only like 3 of them will actually be happy with the serivce.
Frontier is going to fail unless they have very rich customers. ATT could offset the higher costs of rural areas with cities to charge 1 price. Now that Frontier has taken over all the high cost areas they have no cheaper areas to even out the costs, so that means frontier rates will be so high no one will be willing to pay or they will go out of business. |
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FRMFRTFIOS to Smith6612
Anon
2012-Jun-7 4:03 pm
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Re: Most obvious statement ever...When I left frontier FIOS they had 120k subs and the count was going down by about 1000 per month after they got hinkey about the press releases about FIOS.
The set top box hardware costs pale in comparison with the costs of the software lic that runs on the box and the Content Control plant, changing the plant headend to IP Multicast and the VOD systems.
$12,000,000 is about what the disk storage they are going to need across the 3 markets to keep the VOD system up to date. To switch technologies, lic the new GUI, expect a cost of about $1000 per sub uo front and $100 - $300 per year afterwards. |
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Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA
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said by Smith6612:Couldn't Frontier simply push a few software upgrades that disables the portion of the set top box that utilizes QAM and set it up instead to use strictly IPTV over MoCa (or Ethernet)? Probably not, if it was that easy Verizon probably would have already done it in the FiOS areas they still have. |
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Smith6612 MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY
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Great info to know. Thanks |
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jeezhow about a raffle for two cans and a string too? |
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Re: Frontier Has to Do SomethingLet it age like a fine wine and dig it out when you can't wait any longer. |
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will west virginia get u-verse vdsl?Will the customers in west virginia get this vdsl offering? I would jump in a heartbeat from comcast if they offered this for a reasonable price of course being west virginia I don't see them offering it here. |
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Would a community of 100,000 get U-Verse?After reading this, I am actually hopeful because why U-Verse is not perfect I would love to see someone challenge Time Warner in Terre Haute along with Comcast in Lafayette. Both communities are around a 100k but I think Lafayette would get it first because they have a major university and Terre Haute is just an old factory town. |
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Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA
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Re: Frontier Has to Do Somethingsaid by Intrepid1:I would like to know what the plan is for all the fiber that they have laid in the central WI area. Sounds like middle mile fiber. |
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XANAVirus Premium Member join:2012-03-03 Lavalette, WV
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Re: will west virginia get u-verse vdsl?Or FiOS. Suddenlink's great, but where are the other options? I'd love to have FiOS, and mainly for the higher upload speed. Why does no one offer anything higher than 1Mbit upload? People like myself, who do Let's Plays for YouTube (and so have to have a high upload), some of us use our university's Internet conection to do our uploads. But, it would be so much better if FiOS were here (I've already had a few complaints from my university). |
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mikedz4
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2012-Jun-11 12:38 am
We won't see FIOS probably in the near future. Heck we probably won't see this u-verse in west virginia either. |
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