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Comments on news posted 2012-06-18 08:13:03: According to new data recently crunched by consultant Chetan Sharma, there's a notable shift among United States consumers away from two-year contract wireless plans -- and toward more cost-friendly prepaid options. ..

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RR Conductor
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Who is Chetan Sharma?

Who is he?



cableties
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»chetansharma.com/bio.htm

Reads like auto-credentials.

Hey, Karl, you need to rename this site, Karlbode Consultants, LLC!


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ABC87243

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Greed!!!

Two reasons why users shifting away from Contracts to Prepaid plan
1. Bad economy
2. Greedy CEO and executives. Switching unlimited data plan to Everything Plan.

As you already know, CEO and executives will raise rate on Prepaid plan when more users switch to this plan. We are the looser no matter what



mech1164
I'll Be Back

join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ

Nessecites

With the economy going the way it is people are reevaluating their expenses. First thing to go the phone bill. When a person does the numbers they can save a boatload by buying the phone outright and getting a better prepaid plan. If the MNVO is working well where you live then why not use them. More then likely they are using the same network you are already on. I myself don't talk alot so the $30.00 walmart plan (100min talk, unlim text and data) is a steal compared to my former $90.00+ monthly cell bill.

But to each his own. I'll take the savings thank you.



88615298
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West Tenness

1 recommendation

reply to ABC87243

Re: Greed!!!

said by ABC87243 :

As you already know, CEO and executives will raise rate on Prepaid plan when more users switch to this plan. We are the looser no matter what.

While I'm sure that was a typo it does describe what our rectums will be once these cell companies get done with us.

ncbill
Premium
join:2007-01-23
Winston Salem, NC
reply to mech1164

Re: Nessecites

Absolutely, have the same TMO prepaid plan and love it.

$30/month, no extra fees/taxes, for 5GB 3G data is a bargain compared to contract data plan prices.



franknalco

join:2005-01-27
Littleton, CO

For now

Hopefully at some point technology will make the airwaves the fattest pipe around, as data speed through the ether at multi-gig speeds. Then maybe we will see wireless data become commoditized and prices fall through the floor the way they are doing in the b2b wireline data sector. Hopefully....


Telco

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reply to ABC87243

Re: Greed!!!

I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .

I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.

If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months.



aciddrink

join:2000-08-26
reply to ncbill

Re: Nessecites

Nice, my Verizon contract is up in less than 1 month, and I planned on switching to either the t-mobile or att prepaid.

I'm tired of paying $90/month for a phone that I barely ever use anymore.



88615298
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West Tenness
reply to Telco

Re: Greed!!!

said by Telco:

I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .

I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.

If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months.

The problem with Straighttalk and others is they have limited phones. Heck I've got to drive 20 miles to get a Straighttalk phone that will actually work on Verizon's network because all our Wal-Mart will carry is phones that work on at&t and at&t only offers EDGE in my area which makes the unlimited data pretty useless.

And they have ONE phone. Overall it's bit better than my LG Ally I have( mostly ) but it's also $179. I can upgrade with Verizon in 2 weeks and get a Droid Bionic which is a 4G phone for $30 which includes the upgrade fee. So that's $149 more plus tax which brings it to $163 difference. So I'm not sure where the savings are.


88615298
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reply to franknalco

Re: For now

said by franknalco:

Hopefully at some point technology will make the airwaves the fattest pipe around, as data speed through the ether at multi-gig speeds. Then maybe we will see wireless data become commoditized and prices fall through the floor the way they are doing in the b2b wireline data sector. Hopefully....

Do you think it cost these companies $10 per GB to deliver data NOW? If they actually charged what data was, heck charge DOUBLE actual cost, prices would be much lower.

With Verizon's new Share Your Wallet plan 1 GB cost $50, 10 GB cost $100. Somehow it costs Verizon $50 to deliver 1 GB but then another $50 to deliver 9 more GB? Does not compute. And we all know it doesn't cost Verizon anywhere near $100 to deliver 10 GB of data. If you need more than 10 GB you can purchase 2 extra GB for $10. So that's 5 per GB. And you know they are making mad profits on that. So if they are making huge profits at $5 per GB then 10 GB should be no more than $50 not $100.

amungus
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reply to 88615298

Re: Greed!!!

I find this part of their service (and other prepaid) very curious - how do they decide who gets what type of service??

CDMA has FAR better coverage here, but how would I know what ST uses here without checking each phone etc?

Device compatibility is a huge mess.
CDMA phones should work with any compatible carrier - there's no reason Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellular can't all "get along" - they already do. GSM is obviously a little different - plop a SIM card in, and you're good.



jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR
reply to 88615298

just get a straight talk sim and a AT&T or Tmobile phone and your set.



Frank
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reply to 88615298

said by 88615298:

said by Telco:

I switched because it made a lot of sense and freed me up from contracts. I have both pageplus and straightalk .

I save about $431 over the equivalent 24 month AT&T service. More importantly, I am able to purchase a new iPhone every single year and not be in a contract.

If I did not purchase a new phone every year, I'd save about $1K over 24 months.

The problem with Straighttalk and others is they have limited phones. Heck I've got to drive 20 miles to get a Straighttalk phone that will actually work on Verizon's network because all our Wal-Mart will carry is phones that work on at&t and at&t only offers EDGE in my area which makes the unlimited data pretty useless.

And they have ONE phone. Overall it's bit better than my LG Ally I have( mostly ) but it's also $179. I can upgrade with Verizon in 2 weeks and get a Droid Bionic which is a 4G phone for $30 which includes the upgrade fee. So that's $149 more plus tax which brings it to $163 difference. So I'm not sure where the savings are.

two things

1) you can order the phone from thier website and they'll ship it to you.

2) are you factoring in what you will be saving per month into figuring out where the savings are?

for example, you might be paying more for the phone now but in the long run after two years of saving like $20-$30 a month doesnt it work out in your favor?


88615298
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reply to amungus

said by amungus:

I find this part of their service (and other prepaid) very curious - how do they decide who gets what type of service??

CDMA has FAR better coverage here, but how would I know what ST uses here without checking each phone etc?

Device compatibility is a huge mess.
CDMA phones should work with any compatible carrier - there's no reason Verizon, Sprint, U.S. Cellular can't all "get along" - they already do. GSM is obviously a little different - plop a SIM card in, and you're good.

Verizon and Sprint use difference frequencies.

If you look at the name for most basic phones they will end in a -G or -C. The G stand for GSM and the C stands for CDMA. As to which CDMA is uses then you have to delve in a bit deeper.

On the smartphones I know they work on Verizon because they have this underneath the phone description


merc669
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Lexington Park, MD
reply to aciddrink

Re: Nessecites

I am in same situation with my wife and me. Together we are paying around 200 to Verizon. I can cut that cost to around 75 a month with Straight talk. Her contract expires in Aug, mine in Apr of next year. But I will just pay the ETF in Sept. I calculated it out that I would save a whole lot more for the duration just paying the approx 190 for the ETF compared to the approx 90 for one phone for the remaining time. My problem is finding the best one. So far it seems Trac or Straight seems to be the best for what we need (Voice and Text). I figure I will buy two unlocked phones (good for text and voice only), a sim and a plan and I should be good. At least this is the plan....



88615298
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reply to jchambers28

Re: Greed!!!

said by jchambers28:

just get a straight talk sim and a AT&T or Tmobile phone and your set.

T-Mobile service does not exist in my area and at&t offers only EDGE. So what would be the point?


jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

U said straight talk offers a limited amount of phones. I was letting you know about their sim card offering that this in no longer the case. In your area it would be pointless.



88615298
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reply to Frank

said by Frank:

two things

1) you can order the phone from thier website and they'll ship it to you.

I know that but I think it's so stupid that the walmart 2 miles from me only offers at&t straight talk phones and at&t doesn't even have 3G here let alone 4G. What good is unlimited data on EDGE?

2) are you factoring in what you will be saving per month into figuring out where the savings are?

for example, you might be paying more for the phone now but in the long run after two years of saving like $20-$30 a month doesnt it work out in your favor?

I'm on a family plan and my portion works out to be only $8 more per month on Verizon. I think $8 is worth the extra features on the phone and the fact I can access 4G speeds. Or will shortly when it gets here.


88615298
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reply to jchambers28

said by jchambers28:

U said straight talk offers a limited amount of phones. I was letting you know about their sim card offering that this in no longer the case. In your area it would be pointless.

I'm know about their sim card thing. Net10 has a bring your phone thing too for GSM phones. If either offered the same thing for CDMA phones I'd might think about switching to them. No reason why they couldn't offer a program on a CDMA phone that is out of contract.


michieru
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reply to ABC87243

Point one is invalid.

If the economy was bad we would see more people flock towards post-paid plans because the cost of paying a phone up front is too steep for those who have cash in the bank.

Point 2 is valid but not quite.

Yes CEO and executives are greedy bastards morally. They own the network and can charge as much as they see fit, so they are not greedy bastards economically. So therefore we are upset morally but in the real world all that matters is gains and losses and so it's business as usual and hence therefore we cannot be mad because it's capitalism....without morals.



IowaCowboy
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I'll stay with postpaid

I'm happy with my Verizon iPhone. Coverage is good, price is right, and I have good call quality that is comparable to a landline. Cell phone is about $118 per month (900 minutes, 250 texts, unlimited data, and 2 GB of tethering capability) and home phone (also through Verizon) is about $65 per month (unlimited local and long distance with call waiting, call forwarding, caller ID, and non published service). Home phone is necessary for alarm system and E911 capability.


Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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is it really surprising?

With postpaid prices only going up, and a number of MVNOs jumping into the prepaid market(omg, causing competition *GASP* sort of), its not wonder people are ditching postpaid and going pre-paid. Look at it this way: Post paid for an Iphone4 on AT&T runs about 90 per month with 2GB of data. Prepaid for "unlimited" data on some carriers can get as low as $40 per month. Seriously, with the economy in a slump, this really isnt a surprising shift.


Chubbysumo

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reply to 88615298

Re: Greed!!!

said by 88615298:

I'm know about their sim card thing. Net10 has a bring your phone thing too for GSM phones. If either offered the same thing for CDMA phones I'd might think about switching to them. No reason why they couldn't offer a program on a CDMA phone that is out of contract.

But, they do. You just have to go in and activate it on their network if you have an old one laying around...


King P
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reply to aciddrink

Re: Nessecites

Consider Red Pocket Mobile too. They are an AT&T MVNO with some pretty good prices/plans and are prepaid.

Plus, you get HSPA+ access, if AT&T has it in your area. Any AT&T Sim Locked phone will still work, because it's still AT&Ts network.

Lots of folks I know using the Lumia 900 on it. I might be ditching my T-Mobile prepaid to move to them, unless T-Mobile refarms my area soon.

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franknalco

join:2005-01-27
Littleton, CO
reply to 88615298

Re: For now

Pricing is a usually a market driven force and not always a factor of margins or costs. Diamonds are found in the dirt, and sell retail for thousands of dollars, a nice mark-up if you can get it. T-shirts cost probably less than a dollar, and yet some sell for nearly $100. I used to buy a pair of jeans for $15 and am in shock to see some sell for over $200. Wireless broadband costs will come down only as a result of competition. Either more companies enter the wholesale market (which is doubtful considering the cost of entry), cost to deliver the service falls dramatically and someone hungry for market share cuts prices (read sprint or t-mobile), or there is a paradigm shift (like universal wi-fi availability for free). I personally feel that it is the second of the three (and there may be more drivers as well - like consumers turning to alternatives such as prepaid) that is the most likely. That only arises with fatter bandwidth and lower costs.


Chubbysumo

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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: I'll stay with postpaid

said by IowaCowboy:

I'm happy with my Verizon iPhone. Coverage is good, price is right, and I have good call quality that is comparable to a landline. Cell phone is about $118 per month (900 minutes, 250 texts, unlimited data, and 2 GB of tethering capability) and home phone (also through Verizon) is about $65 per month (unlimited local and long distance with call waiting, call forwarding, caller ID, and non published service). Home phone is necessary for alarm system and E911 capability.

on prepaid, you can get unlimited everything(in the same manner that verizon offers) for $45 per month. Paying more than double that is a rip off, and you should know it.


aciddrink

join:2000-08-26
reply to merc669

Re: Nessecites

I am also considering Virgin Mobile, which uses the sprint network. They have decent phones and pretty high coverage. The only thing holding me back on Virgin is that Sprint is constantly rated the worst mobile network.

One good resource for doing research on both phones and carriers is www.howardforums.com. Their forum section is huge and full of info.



axiomatic

join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX

Prepaid enables consumer choice.

Prepaid enables consumer choice. I think that is the most basic facet of this 25% shift.



PGHammer

join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
reply to 88615298

Re: Greed!!!

Both TRACFONE and NET10 (and the lifeline partner Safelink Wireless) resell/reuse T-Mobile GSM in this area - and coverage is a definite issue; I have *dead spots* within my own house compared to CDMA (VZW) and W-CDMA (Sprint). It's not a *phone* issue (my current phone is a SAMSUNG *candybar* GSM phone - similar in features to the NOKIA *Shorty* that is still offered by Virgin Mobile USA's prepaid plan); however, it is likely that T-M's non-prepaid/non-reseller phones are *not* GSM-only. I'm hoping to find a T-M phone that someone wants to get rid of (since my Safelink SIM card would indeed fit) so I can do a straight handset switch and compare phones heads-up.