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| built for speed it always amazed me how some of these incumbents were bringing fiber to home and then offering such lackluster speed. Qwest brought fiber to my home 5years ago, and the top speed was 6/2. WTF? The pipe was loaded with video nobody subscribed to, and while the connection was rock solid, the performance was not fiber-tastic. I guess since the monthly fee was built in to my HOA dues, they didn't have to care. |
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| Rapacious ... Let's inflate our prices under the guise of speed increase. Rather than giving more speed at same price tiers, or cheaper pricing for previous tier, they rape us.
And the feds just nod like bobble-heads...throw more (tax $$$) at the incumbent duopolies to bump out national broadband (cough).
Hey, don't get me wrong, I love my FioS. But I'm on the lower end of the pole (pun)...I went for a cheaper tier because I don't need 35Mbps or faster...now why am I liable for Verizon's loss?
Why are any of us liable for this? Meanwhile, they aren't ripping out old copper plant for new! They are still raping DSL users (and not giving them the option of ftth). And still raping landline users.
I wonder if West Virginia will put those routers on ebay...at a loss 
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Re: ... I dont think they have to. The cheaper price point will do more than enough to keep them competitive while they figure out what they want to do with speeds. |
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 HarleyYacYacoPremium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
kudos:2 | reply to cableties
Re: Rapacious ... Just called to down grade... As I had errors with the website. .I'll try tonight or tomorrow, didn't have time ti wait.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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Re: ... »[Speed] Northeast speed changes coming.
Not quite what you're asking for, but it looks like an improvement over what Comcast had before, albeit only being rolled out (for the moment) in FiOS areas.
Comcast is now allowing eight downstream channels to be bonded in some areas, plus three upstreams (though generally one of those upstreams is a half-width, DOCSIS 1.1 channel so it adds only 10 Mbps of capacity). Total available capacity at that point is around 300 mbps down, 70 Mbps up. Funny how Comcast would have to use its entire capacity to match Verizon's 300M tier...my guess is that Verizon sped up its highest-end tier just so that Comcast couldn't exactly match it.
What *can* Comcast do? As mentioned above, increase Blast speeds to match 50M FiOS, and increase Extreme 50 speeds to 105M down to, at least somewhat, be comparable to the 150M FiOS tier. This leaves somewhat of a gap at the high end ($200/mo) so they could put a 200-250M tier there in areas where they have eight channels to bond, with more upload speed as well. I'll bet there will be a 250M down, 35M up tier for $200 coming within the next three or four months to areas with FIOS competition. Not sure what speeds will end up being on the new 50M and 105M tiers though; my hope would be that they would just inherit the 15/20M upload speeds from the current 50/105 tiers, but that's such a huge upgrade for Blast customers (4 Mbps up now) that I'm not sure if I see that actually happening. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Higher prices just like VerizonWireless then try to tell you what a "deal" you're getting.
Call me silly but Charter's 15/3 tier at $48 is better than FiOS 15/5 tier at $65 and that with phone service and a 2 year contract otherwise Verizon charges you $75. |
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Re: ... Good point - it was a theoretical question because I can't even make use of the 20/4 speeds I'm getting! I don't need that much bandwidth for everyday internet access. |
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| Nonsense I already have MORE speed than I need, and the price tag is high. Now I'm being charged more for something I don't want???
I want more HD channels. Where are they Verizon??? |
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| Is VZ really committed to FiOS? Seeing these price points and speed offerings, I'm not really sure this is an attempt to enhance FiOS, but an attempt to kill it.
Hear me out. To most people buying services, this kind of speed is not that important, if they even understand how broadband speed is calculated. 95% of the potential customers who are buying the 300/65 service are regular posters here.
But making their service less price competitive, I don't know how they can increase the take rate. That's the catch-22 for VZ here.
If they're not going to be promotional anymore in trying to lure customers away from the incumbent cable companies, then offering increased speed levels is not something that's mainstream enough to do it, IMO. And if that's the case, and they turn to a model similar to the other companies in not providing retention rates, then what's to stop people from turning back to Comcast/TWC/Cablevision/Cox?
It seems like a potentially divine set-up to say that nobody wants higher speeds (not because they don't, but because of the higher prices), to then claim that the market clearly wants 4G LTE and that we're not going to offer FiOS anymore.
I've always wanted to be able to get FiOS (I never will living here, even in a VZ ILEC area), but if there really is a premium price to have it, I'm not even sure I would prefer it to the cable company. |
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HarleyYacYacoPremium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Website crashes and Phone wait times are 20 min plus long! Guess I am not the only one trying to downgrade or eliminate services .. Net Talk here I come »www.nettalk.com/en
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Re: Nonsense You're getting more HD channels! Se habla Espanol? |
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Crusty
join:2008-11-11
Sanger, TX Reviews:
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Re: Website crashes and Phone wait times are 20 min plus long! To all of those that are QQ'n about these changes, there are PLENTY of us that are currently getting raped by DSL prices that would gladly take even the bottom tier speeds/prices.
Only if it (Fios) was in my area....or another provider for that matter. |
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join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA
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Re: Is VZ really committed to FiOS? I figure they're doing two things:
1) They're looking for the "premium" customer, or one who buys based more on features and less on price. This is the same dynamic with DirecTV versus DISH Network. DirecTV prices itself higher and, in return, has to deal less with customers who do things like don't pay on time. Verizon, I imagine has decided to stop competing on price and instead say "our stuff is AWESOME and those who know better will fork out for it." As long as FiOS has rock-solid reliability and sustained speeds, a (potentially) profitable minority will pay the extra bucks.
2) They've decided to really go after recouping the costs of the build-out. I mean, pedal-to-the-floor, paid-off-by-2016 fast. Shoveling more bits faster has a minimal incremental cost to a wired company, so if this can help them claim the need for higher rates, why not go for it? Verizon-the-landline company has been a break-even proposition at best for the past few years because of all the money they've spent on FiOS.
Plus, remember that the rates quoted above are outside of a regular bundle agreement, which Verizon really wants customers to take. Extreme HD + 50/20 is quoted at $104.99 for me, which is only $5 more than Time Warner Cable in the same market, with TWC offering half the transfer rate and fewer channels. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to osravens
Re: Nonsense said by osravens:You're getting more HD channels! Se habla Espanol?
In HD the Spanish almost sounds like English. |
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HarleyYacYacoPremium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
kudos:2 | reply to Crusty
Re: Website crashes and Phone wait times are 20 min plus long! Hi,
Understand, but I really do not need it. Service is great !! but in this economy I will live without it.
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| New speeds for Residential only Just chatted with a VZ rep in India. These new speed upgrades are not available for businesses at this time. |
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
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Re: Is VZ really committed to FiOS? There's only one problem out there. How many premium customers are there really? I think in the age of biennial rate increases, there's far more people looking to penny-pinch, question what services they need, and whether they need any of them all (cutting the "cord", going all wireless).
If Verizon is going to ignore these people, then they're going to struggle to find new customers and keep old ones.
Yes, DirecTV has a premium product. But they also send me a promo every week for $29.95/month service. If you want Sunday Ticket, Extra Innings, that's there for you. But they're still trying to compete, and be all things to all people. While you can question their commitment to mainstream HD channels (the same way you can with FiOS), DirecTV is not just saying "We're better, pay for it". A request that simple would easily fall on deaf ears. |
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wesmPremium
join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| DirecTV does offer cheap rates, but now they're only to two types of customers: Existing customers who are off contract, and new customers who pass a credit check. That $29.95 is usually only good for 6 or 12 months, but you've just agreed to a 24 month contract; that's where DirecTV gets sneaky.
To answer your other question, I guess Verizon thinks there are enough premium customers in its footprint to make the gamble worthwhile. My uneducated guess is that they're probably right, or that this is how they'll position themselves for people who do TV cord cutting ("run 12 Roku boxes at the same time!").
The thought occurs to me that it's funny how the most profitable FiOS systems for Verizon are the ones it no longer owns. The ones it sold to Frontier and FairPoint (along with copper assets it no longer wanted) recouped most of Verizon's capital expense outlay, tax-free no less. |
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