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Comments on news posted 2012-06-20 08:39:26: An anonymous tipster (so take that for what it's worth since we've been unable to confirm this with any of our usual sources) insists in our forums that there's a suite of speed hikes coming -- at least for Comcast users in the Northeast. ..


amarryat
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Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Comcast needs new infrastructure or they'll never be able to offer fast upload. They'll have to invest the billions that Verizon invested a few years ago.
Joe12345678
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

fios was a new build out. Comcast just took over older cable systems that where build some time ago.

anononon
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Didn't that also happen to Vz, except they chose to reinvest in their infrastructure (at the time) instead of buying a TV network. Vz's facilities are twice the age and better maintained. Now its just about hoarding the mist money possible.

JigglyWiggly
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

and here i am in the west coast
ffs

battleop
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That doesn't matter right now because the overwhelming majority of their users are not going to sustain these speeds. They are updating their networks similar to how businesses use just in time inventory.

NickD
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My wi-fi router can't seem to go above 20 mbps, so a Comcast speed increase won't make my network faster. When connected directly to ethernet, I get 35 mbps down 10 up.

amarryat
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Marshfield, MA

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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by NickD:

My wi-fi router can't seem to go above 20 mbps, so a Comcast speed increase won't make my network faster. When connected directly to ethernet, I get 35 mbps down 10 up.

You need to get an "N" wifi router.

An
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buy a Gb router...and you gotta remember wifi is half duplex so theres always loss.

tc1uscg
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by An :

buy a Gb router...and you gotta remember wifi is half duplex so theres always loss.

For me, my bottle neck was my cables and my CC phone/modem. I dumped the phone service months ago and CC refused to give me a new modem. So, I just said, screw you, I'll go get my own SB6121 docis3 and swapped out my cables to 6e's. Already got a giga router and 802.11n router (Dlink DIR655 and matching AP). I'm paying 40 right now for 25/4 and I'm happy with the speeds. Bottle neck is gone.

jmn1207
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This is what pains me from moving into an area that had FiOS to an area that only has Comcast available. My Slingbox can't keep up now with the meager upload that Comcast offers, at all but the most expensive business tiers.

I see 35/6 on speed tests with an ok latency, but even as the only person that uses this connection, the uploads just don't cut it. I can't imagine how this might impact a family or a group of users trying to share the same connection.

My Verizon HTC Rezound can get steady LTE upload speeds at a faster rate than my home connection.

My download speed is plenty fast enough already, but an increase in my upload speeds would be the most beneficial to me.
quintin3265
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State College, PA

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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Two points:

1. It doesn't matter what Comcast increases their speeds to, because they still have caps. Who cares if you have 50 down when you just hit the cap faster?

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

AnonFTW
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by quintin3265:

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

Google what a Slingbox is. It's nothing like Netflix.
itguy05
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said by quintin3265:

Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

That's not true. I've got Netflix on my AppleTV and have watched it pull around 8-11Mbps when streaming HD content. This was verified with my FIOS routers bandwidth page. IIRC it was while streaming the TV show Flashpoint at 1080.

So yes with an adequate connection Netflix will stream tons of data and I'm tankful I'm on FIOS.
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said by quintin3265:

Two points:

1. It doesn't matter what Comcast increases their speeds to, because they still have caps. Who cares if you have 50 down when you just hit the cap faster?

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

#1 ) Grow up. This topic has been beaten to death already for years! ..and it talking about hitting caps that much faster isn't going to change. Maybe people want to just get what they already DO, done FASTER.. Just because your car goes faster doesn't mean you're going to drive any further.. it just means you have more power and the ability to go faster. So drop the years old crap already.

2) Listening to your #2 pretty much says you don't know what you're talking about.. I get streams at about 10mb.. not sure what your problem is.

If you don't want the extra speed then tell them not to upgrade you at no charge.
tmc8080
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CV, join the party..

hey, if Comcast can boost 50mbit tier to 100, why not cablevision? Optimum boost @ 100+mbits would be great, of course that means docsis 3 bonded upstream channels for higher upload too.. 100/8 would be too asymmetric. 25 or more on the upstream!

Chris 313
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Re: CV, join the party..

They already do at 101/15. »www.optimum.com/home-int ··· rnet.jsp
tmc8080
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Re: CV, join the party..

said by Chris 313:

They already do at 101/15. »www.optimum.com/home-int ··· rnet.jsp

Well, technically the price will be more for that speed.. Comcast price is $65 for the 50 which will boost to 105... the OOL Extreme 101 is $99+ w/ a $300 installation fee which is not justifiable w/ Verizon breaking new speed barriers.

Having 100mbit speeds for $45 - $65 would be a big shift in the cost per (download) megabit!

Chris 313
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Re: CV, join the party..

Yes, I agree, having 100 for the base price would be awesome. It'll happen, just give it a few more years. I was robbed of the chance since Comcast hasn't even upgraded to D3 here yet so I don't have anything faster then 16/2 since last year. But I waited 5 years for 50 to become affordable and look, it's coming. And when it finally gets to me, it'll probably be faster then the 50 they're rolling out now.

dvd536
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said by tmc8080:

hey, if Comcast can boost 50mbit tier to 100, why not cablevision? Optimum boost @ 100+mbits would be great, of course that means docsis 3 bonded upstream channels for higher upload too.. 100/8 would be too asymmetric. 25 or more on the upstream!

Cablevision doing 15mbps WITHOUT upstream bonding!
ihatedslr
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Double speed

I've seen Comcast TV commercials in NJ that state two tiers will soon have double the speed at no additional cost.
Wilsdom
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Re: Double speed

They plan to start charging by gigabyte, so if you actually make use of the the bandwidth it will be at a huge extra cost
ihatedslr
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Re: Double speed

I'm ok with that.

gate1975mlm
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said by Wilsdom:

They plan to start charging by gigabyte, so if you actually make use of the the bandwidth it will be at a huge extra cost

No there not!

Not until you go over the 300GB Cap anyway.

And that cap maybe even higher once they finalize everything.
nanoflower
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Re: Double speed

Given how slowly they have moved in the past I wouldn't look for the 300GB monthly limit to increase for at least five years. Currently that new limit puts them ahead of anyone else in the USA that has a monthly limit, and it still is a low enough limit that it will keep the cord cutters that move to Internet downloads to a minimum (which is the main purpose of the limit.)
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But we're talking about 100Mbps here. 300GB can be burned through in hours, so that cap has a loooooooooooong way to go before it is even close to appropriate. Well, it wouldn't actually be that hard--they could just replace "GB" with "TB"

AnonFTW
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Re: Double speed

said by Wilsdom:

But we're talking about 100Mbps here. 300GB can be burned through in hours, so that cap has a loooooooooooong way to go before it is even close to appropriate. Well, it wouldn't actually be that hard--they could just replace "GB" with "TB"

Who is going to deliver you 300GB of content in "just a few hours?"
BosstonesOwn
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Re: Double speed

akamai ? l3 ? Limelight ? IBM ? At&t ?

Should I continue ?

My Company had vpn concentrators on gig links , id appreciate the ability to work from home when I need to do big software installs. Instead of having to go into the office all the time, ohh wait the 300 gig limit still limits me to a couple big installs from home on friday and saturday nights.

gate1975mlm
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Faster speeds are always welcomed!
gate1975mlm

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The faster speed should also help online video to load faster.
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said by ihatedslr:

I've seen Comcast TV commercials in NJ that state two tiers will soon have double the speed at no additional cost.

I just heard the same thing but on the radio

dvd536
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Ahhhhhh

More token downstream boosts that'll go largely unused.
how about more upload[which always can be used!]

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gate1975mlm
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Its 100% True speed upgrades are coming very soon!

I was just listening to local radio station 94WIP Sports Radio here in Philly and they just had a brand new Comcast commercial talking about the new speed upgrade coming very soon!

Blast becomes 50
Extreme becomes 105

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Does this effect Buisiness Class?

Any word if these changes would also affect Premium and Deluxe Business class subscribers also?

IowaCowboy
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In an area where FiOS ain't available

Springfield, MA is in the Northeast but we cannot get FiOS. AT&T U-Verse is available about a 15 minute drive from our house just south of the border in Enfield, CT. Too bad Verizon couldn't sell their Western Massachusetts assets to AT&T so they could expand their U-Verse into the Springfield area.

Hopefully we'll get the better speeds as Comcast has D3 in our area and we've had it since late 2008 as we were one of the first areas to get D3.

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Camaro
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Westfield, MA

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I was told

At my local best buy that's what I was told when I was checking out new cable modems and got swarmed by the workers. Those speed's are dead on from what I was told, so who knows I'll believe it when I do some speed test's

IowaCowboy
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Re: I was told

Make sure you buy a D3 modem. I have a Motorola 6120 but you'll have to get the 6121 because the 6120 is discontinued. I frequently shop at the Best Buy at Holyoke Mall and they're always sold out of the 6121 modems. They always have a boatload of 5101 modems in stock but I have a gut feeling that Comcast is soon going to declare all D2 modems to be end of life soon (which means they'll no longer support them). My 6120 works good for me though although I have thoughts of getting the 6121 but the folks in the Comcast HSI forum on this site said that the 6120 and the 6121 are basically the same thing except for a few minor tweaks.

Camaro
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Yup same location I did, I have a Arris WBM760A and they also say it is compatible, thanks for the advice though.

sherman06810
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Business Tiers

If the rumor is true, will I see an increase from 22/5 to 50/5 on my business class tier?

gate1975mlm
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Re: Business Tiers

It is true!

Here is the radio commercial!

You may need to turn up the volume a little

NetFixer
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Re: Business Tiers

said by sherman06810:

If the rumor is true, will I see an increase from 22/5 to 50/5 on my business class tier?

said by gate1975mlm:

It is true!

Here is the radio commercial!

You may need to turn up the volume a little

FYI, Your radio commercial is an Xfinity commercial, and Xfinity residential service != Comcast Business Class service.

Comcast Business Class service speed tier changes are glacial compared to Xfinity residential speed tier changes, and since business class customers also have very restrictive contracts, any speed tier changes for individual customers is sometimes postponed until contract renewal time.

Morac
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How about upload speeds?

Blast is currently 25/4 (30/6 if you count Powerboost). According to the Comcast shop web site (at least for my area, I have channel bonding) Extreme 50 is 50/15 and 105 is 105/20.

Does this mean Blast will now be 50/15?

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compuwizz
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Caps

Thanks for the upgrade, however we'll just reach our caps faster ...
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DSLR Next

DSLR and Karl will be next for posting illegal recordings of radio stations. Great job there Karl!

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graycorgi
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When will we get DOCSIS3?

So now a good portion of Comcast can get 105mbps, over 13x the maximum speed of 8mbps available in Johnson City. Almost all of Comcast can get significantly faster speeds than our region.

Are we ever going to see upgrades out here?

Landmine
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Placerville, CA

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West Coast Love?

So when is this rolling out to the west? And when will it matter to business class?

I've emailed my Rep and I'll post answers if I get any.

Xman78
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Beat the cap

Depending on how you use your internet, if like most who worry about the cap it's about netflix and things like that, comcast has a deal where any video watched through Xboxes doesn't count toward the cap, so you can watch all the netflix through 105 speed you want and be cap free.
Xman78

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Re: Beat the cap

After researching more I guess its just the xfinity tv app that is cap free via xbox, but still better than nothing.

mmm
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mmm

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confirmation

I tried talking to a few representatives at Comcast to see if they could provide a more definitive timeline of when this increase will happen, but got shuffled around and never reached a solid answer. I'll try calling my local Comcast office tomorrow when they're open to see if they can provide any additional insight.

bryanmm29
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comcast speeds

they were just here the other day and the worker said in 2 weeks we will be getting a speed boost so we shall see

test
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test

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Re: comcast speeds

Which state are you in? I imagine they'd just do it for all of New England in one shot who knows.
Jerkface
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heard this on TV

i live in NJ and heard this on a TV ad. 07/06/2012.

kjarrett
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Re: heard this on TV

said by Jerkface:

i live in NJ and heard this on a TV ad. 07/06/2012.

Same. Searching and a tip from a friend led me here. Fingers crossed that it happens soon!