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Comments on news posted 2012-06-20 16:38:03: A recent high court ruling in the UK has declared that all ISPs there must now block their users from being able to access The Pirate Bay. ..


FFH5
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How hard is it to add IPs to filter

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BT became the last major UK Internet provider to block subscriber access to The Pirate Bay. The ISP has gone further than other providers since it also restricts access to the new IP-addresses added by the deviant BitTorrent site in recent weeks.

Nevertheless, even these additional efforts were quickly neutralized. Immediately after the block kicked in Pirate Bay added a set of new IP addresses to allow BT subscribers access again –for now at least.
How hard is it for those blocking Pirate Bay IP addresses as well as DNS names to add new addresses - daily if need be?

BK3
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said by FFH5:



How hard is it for those blocking Pirate Bay IP addresses as well as DNS names to add new addresses - daily if need be?

Even if it took 0 time, all any user needs to do is change the DNS server that they use.

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I can see it now....DNS servers will have to be registered and approved with the government.

The Limit
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A really good example of why government intervention is worthless. Just thought I would point that out.

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Nothing strange here move along

YAY for censorship!

I mean NAAAAAAYYYY

Always humorous to see our Western Governments talk about how bad and evil those guys are over in the East while behind the scenes they're secretly saying, "Well, hey that's not a real bad idea." Hypocrites in every sense of the word.

Although I must admit. It's starting to not be so funny as the noose is tightening. Boiling the frog syndrome has been a success.
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Re: How hard is it to add IPs to filter

However, the government still gets to say "Yes, we have done all we can do to block it. Please make the check out to......."

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but not until today did the last ISP ...

Not blocked by my reasonably well known UK ISP(and I assume many others) at the moment.

For the record BT don't use simple DNS filtering, they have a "blocking" system called "Cleanfeed" that was installed for child porn. Of course it is still relatively useless against anyone who wants to visit TPB.

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Re: How hard is it to add IPs to filter

DOing this could also risk blocking innocent sites caught in the dragnet.

No amount of IP is ever worth protecting if the protection might harm other users.

Also any smart ISP will only go as far as the law requires, Why spend dollars above and beyond regulatory requirements for something that is a non issue to public safety.

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Thank you Karl in letting everyone know how they can BREAK THE LAW. Good job buddy. lmao.
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There's no point. It's still reactionary, and the ISPs will still always lose in the end.
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Re: Nothing strange here move along

The United Kingdom has never pretended to be a free country

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Re: How hard is it to add IPs to filter

said by FFH5:


How hard is it for those blocking Pirate Bay IP addresses as well as DNS names to add new addresses - daily if need be?

How hard is it to use Tor? Or one of the million free proxies?

Also the Pirate bay is fully indexed on a torrent file that you can download from a million different places.

Noah Vail
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said by ITALIAN926:

Thank you Karl in letting everyone know how they can BREAK THE LAW

The Law? We only had one and now it's broken?

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disseminating information is not a crime.
Kearnstd
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said by ITALIAN926:

Thank you Karl in letting everyone know how they can BREAK THE LAW. Good job buddy. lmao.

it is not the job of someone providing information to clip out parts that tell people who to bypass government filter requirements.

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Um, I don't see any law that's being broken here. Piracy wouldn't be an issue if certain players in the market would stop trying to twist laws to their benefit. Like I said before, let this free market that everyone seems to agree that exists, work. If they go out of business because of these claims of piracy being such a problem, then let the players of said market innovate. Government intervention or no government intervention, piracy will ALWAYS exist. It's been around since the dawn of time, in various forms, and government intervention has yet to put a stop to it. In fact, government intervention has only made it more of an attractive option.

Noah Vail
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said by ArrayList:

disseminating information is not a crime.

Until a Congressman is paid to pass a law that makes it a crime.

Isn't it great that ethics in the US are determined up by scumbags who bribe congressman with campaign contributions?

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Monumental point of order...

The court order does not apply to all UK ISPs, it applies only to some of the largest.

Unlike the US, anyone who can get service from BT (pretty much everyone in the country) can get service from a large number of ISPs, some of which are part of the court order and many are not.

My internet connection is not censored because my ISP was not targeted.
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