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Comments on news posted 2012-06-21 16:34:04: Fears of a UN-managed Internet have again reached a fevered pitch, some of the worries based on little more than hot air and scare mongering from partisans, and some it based on actual reality. Countries do want a less U.S. ..


zipjay

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this is all i have to say...

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihq9W9Rl ··· 9W9RlNOE

especially near the end of the video this pertains to
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FFH5
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3rd world telcos want to tax US content companies

This is nothing but a 3rd world grab of US content company money to subsidize their failing 3rd world telcos that have lost all their revenue due to apps like Skype.

etaadmin

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said by FFH5:

This is nothing but a 3rd world grab of US content company money to subsidize their failing 3rd world telcos that have lost all their revenue due to apps like Skype.

Who exactly constitutes the 3rd world? Name a few countries... and do you know who founded skype?


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reply to FFH5
I agree, the UN was originally established to bring countries together. Over the years it has become a source of revenue for elitists. Time for the UN to be dismantled as it really has not contributed anything good over the last 15 years.


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said by etaadmin:

»www.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/techn ··· nted=all

What is really at stake, some analysts say, is money.

Robert M. McDowell, a member of the Federal Communications Commission, told a U.S. House committee last month that he was aware of treaty proposals that could enable foreign telecommunications companies to levy fees on Google, Facebook, Netflix and other U.S. Internet companies that are heavy users of bandwidth. This would be “devastating to global economic activity,” he said.

The European Telecommunications Network Operators’ Association, a lobbying group based in Brussels, has called for the treaty to permit the management of telecommunications traffic.

The treaty “should acknowledge the challenges of the new Internet economy and the principles that fair compensation is received for carried traffic and operators’ revenues should not be disconnected from the investment needs caused by rapid Internet traffic growth,” the operators’ association said in a submission to the I.T.U.

Thus the real conflict is not over governance of the Internet, some analysts say, but over the division of the spoils, with international telecommunications operators trying to use the I.T.U. to extract revenue from American Internet companies.

When outrageous per minute charges for voice calls became moot due to VOIP and apps like Skype, these gov't controlled monopolies lost a ton of revenue. They want to get all that money back in new rules mandated by the ITU.

So this isn't about net neutrality, or UN takeover of the internet. It is all about the grab for money by the gov't controlled telcos who saw all their revenue disappear.
»oinsurgente.org/2012/06/20/the-u ··· er-grab/


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You can check out these outrageous proposals by the 3rd world here:
»wcitleaks.org/
»jerrybrito.org/post/24541436396/ ··· eaks-org

Especially check out the tariff issues:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/WCIT1 ··· 0etc.pdf
Where it starts getting sticky for data movement.

Measure IP traffic flows and use the results in connection with billing.

Latest draft of suggested changes:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/T09-C ··· SW-E.pdf
Alternate draft:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/CWG%2 ··· TD62.pdf

milkman82

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How Dare they!!!

Such arrogance this UN has! You watch REAL news stories that interview places like Liberia and their people tell you. The UN is worthless! They do nothing to help. They just suck up money for their own elite group.

Down with the UN! Butt hurt Anonymous where are you now when we need you?


treichhart

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I tell the UN and NATO GTFO of US Internet Stuff!!!

I would tell UN and NATO/ETNU get there dam high horse and go f there selfs they need to start paying us for there bandwidth hog's!!! Because UN/NATO already taking over US we dont need them take are Internet now either. SO we need to stop these morons!!!

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Will not work

This idea will work out just like the crowd that awards the Olympics, the group that runs the footbul World Cup or UN Committee for Human Rights a few years ago. The US was kicked off but likes of Libya and Syria were OK. Not that our country is exempt from corruption but in most of the other countries in the world corruption is the only thing that functions well.
The comment that all the poor countries want is the money from the rich countries to pay for their systems in on the money. That money will be wasted for the same reason they don't have a good system now.


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*Chuckling...*

I can do with out the 'net if needed. Inconvenience? Sure. But, free WiFi is everywhere.

Bring it on. See my dollars disappear.
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