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Comments on news posted 2012-07-05 08:53:55: Late last year, law enforcement in Estonia shut down a massive Internet traffic hijacking scheme that used the latest versions of DNSChanger Trojans to hijack search results while blocking victims from visiting security sites. ..

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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Why is this news?

Why is this news other than it's a waste of my tax dollars?


CurGeorge8

join:2005-05-02
South Park, PA

This should have been killed long ago

The part that makes no sense is why the FBI kept this illegitimate online at all. They should have immediately shut the dns servers down. Yes, millions would have lost "functioning" internet, but those same millions would have also received a hard lesson in basic computer security & owner responsibility.

Now, we have those same millions of users who are still none the wiser. They will keep ignoring AV updates, installing freeware, and being generally irresponsible.

The dns servers were illegal. They should have been shut down immediately. There was no need for these to stay online.


CurGeorge8

join:2005-05-02
South Park, PA

On another note .... why was the government able to keep these servers online, which were 100% illegal, yet they had to shut down megaupload.com immediately?



silentlooker
Premium
join:2009-11-01

Takes 10 sec to bypass

It takes about 10-15 sec to bypass and get back online. So good luck to FBI.


Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

reply to CurGeorge8

Re: This should have been killed long ago

said by CurGeorge8:

The part that makes no sense is why the FBI kept this illegitimate online at all. They should have immediately shut the dns servers down. Yes, millions would have lost "functioning" internet, but those same millions would have also received a hard lesson in basic computer security & owner responsibility.

Now, we have those same millions of users who are still none the wiser. They will keep ignoring AV updates, installing freeware, and being generally irresponsible.

The dns servers were illegal. They should have been shut down immediately. There was no need for these to stay online.

I hope the remaining losers suffer a hard lesson on Monday as their internet access stops. Their ISPs will be getting calls to fix them. I hope the fix involves a costly visit to fix their PCs. Maybe they will learn something if they have to pay for it.
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join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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reply to silentlooker

Re: Takes 10 sec to bypass

said by silentlooker:

It takes about 10-15 sec to bypass and get back online. So good luck to FBI.

to us that know computers, yes, DNS changer was more of a nuisance in its heyday than a threat. For those who dont know computers, or didnt care because their internet still "worked", they are about to get slapped in the face. Seriously, with Fortune500 companies still suffering from infections this long after, it really shows incompetence. The FBI should have shut them down after 1 week, and set a warning up that week so as to tell everyone that they were infected. Why the hell has my tax dollars been used to pay for illegitimate DNS servers? This is a waste, and should never have been done.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

Shut it down

I do not care if it takes the NYSE offline for an hour, if you do not take away the tit the kid never gives it up. And right now all these infected are still sucking the FBI DNS tit.

Okay I know a home user might not know, but a fortune 500 not fixing it is just 100% pure lazy. If their IT department cannot fix it in the window they have had than they deserve to have a whole building lose internet. At the enterprise scale couldnt they have even in stages simply reimaged the infected machines if it would be faster than actually cleaning them?
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stevek1949
We're not in Kansas anymore

join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA

reply to CurGeorge8

Re: This should have been killed long ago

said by CurGeorge8:

On another note .... why was the government able to keep these servers online, which were 100% illegal, yet they had to shut down megaupload.com immediately?

From the AP news story:

The problem began when international hackers ran an online advertising scam to take control of more than 570,000 infected computers around the world. When the FBI went in to take down the hackers late last year, agents realized that if they turned off the malicious servers being used to control the computers, all the victims would lose their Internet service.

In a highly unusual move, the FBI set up a safety net. They brought in a private company to install two clean Internet servers to take over for the malicious servers so that people would not suddenly lose their Internet.

But that temporary system will be shut down at 12:01 a.m. EDT Monday, July 9.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

reply to silentlooker

Re: Takes 10 sec to bypass

said by silentlooker:

It takes about 10-15 sec to bypass and get back online. So good luck to FBI.

bypass what?! this comment makes no sense.


Duramax08
Win8 sucks
Premium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

Nope, but it has party van written all over it.



morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
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Rip the band aide off or pull it slowly for months?

I understand the reasoning behind this, but the FBI shouldn't have done this. The responsibility is end users and their ISPs to resolve any connection issues.


Harddrive
Proud American and Infidel since 1968.
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2

FBI Cyber Division...

Helping home users and IT admins to remain utterly stupid.




stevek1949
We're not in Kansas anymore

join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA

reply to morbo

Re: Rip the band aide off or pull it slowly for months?

said by morbo:

I understand the reasoning behind this, but the FBI shouldn't have done this. The responsibility is end users and their ISPs to resolve any connection issues.

It's a damned if you do or damned if you dont kind of issue. If the FBI just pulled the plug, we would be hearing screams and gnashing of teeth that they should have notified everyone affected on an hourly basis, if they put up a saftey net to let the users get their act together, it's a my taxes and end users thing.

We all pretty much know that there are end users that will not take any responsibility or are not even aware that they have an issue until all of a sudden, they can't get to their favorite site on the interwebs.

Just let them pull the plug and let the chips fall where they may.


morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
00000

It's not the FBI's job to manage end user internet access. The FBI should stick to their role, and let users and ISPs deal with the mess.

Edit: I agree end users won't know and will complain, but don't they always?



drew
Automatic
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6

reply to Harddrive

Re: FBI Cyber Division...

a/s/l?


silentlooker
Premium
join:2009-11-01

reply to brad

Re: Takes 10 sec to bypass

said by brad:

said by silentlooker:

It takes about 10-15 sec to bypass and get back online. So good luck to FBI.

bypass what?! this comment makes no sense.

dns server. FBI going to block dns server.

sgip2000

join:2004-05-05
Hillsboro, OR

reply to drew

Re: FBI Cyber Division...

LOL...Haven't seen that in a while.


newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1

reply to stevek1949

Re: Rip the band aide off or pull it slowly for months?

said by stevek1949:

Just let them pull the plug and let the chips fall where they may.

Agreed.

This is the only way to INSURE these borked machines get fixed ... better for us, better for them and better for the intertubes as a whole.


Napsterbater
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reply to silentlooker

Re: Takes 10 sec to bypass

said by silentlooker:

said by brad:

said by silentlooker:

It takes about 10-15 sec to bypass and get back online. So good luck to FBI.

bypass what?! this comment makes no sense.

dns server. FBI going to block dns server.

Try reading the article.... They are going to shutdown DNS server THEY are providing.
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silentlooker
Premium
join:2009-11-01

said by Napsterbater:

Try reading the article.... They are going to shutdown DNS server THEY are providing.

Same thing, it takes 10 sec to change the one your computer is using. The virus will still be in computer and all user needs to do is change dns address.

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