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Comments on news posted 2012-07-19 08:31:39: Reports recently surfaced that indicate AT&T is considering charging users to use Facetime over cellular, a shift from only allowing the video chat service to work over Wi-Fi. ..

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Count Zero
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Bastards

Between charging for FaceTime and releasing a very costly shared data plan I may pay the EFT to switch to Verizon this fall.

cool_coda

join:2004-09-08
Brownsburg, IN

who's going to pay

Seriously... it is a niche market for non-work related situations.

I'm sure my wife/kids can wait to see my ugly mug till I find wifi...


pnh102
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Duh

That means yes.

I'm honestly surprised that Apple isn't putting its foot down against this, especially since other users here have pointed out there are other alternatives (Skype) which will not incur such a fee.
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delusion ftl

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reply to Count Zero

Re: Bastards

They will probably include facetime over 3g on their share everything plans as a way to entice/force users over.

I do understand that around 10 maybe 20 percent of the US population really cant choose anything but vzw or ATT, but for the 80/90% they really ought to vote with their wallet and look to different carriers as a way to send a signal to ATT and VZW that they wont pay this.


spewak
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reply to pnh102

Re: Duh

said by pnh102:

That means yes.

I'm honestly surprised that Apple isn't putting its foot down against this, especially since other users here have pointed out there are other alternatives (Skype) which will not incur such a fee.

Skype? Apple has shown that it can sell a multitude of devices and that that is all it cares about. Putting it's foot down? That's rich my friend.
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thegeek
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reply to Count Zero

Re: Bastards

Why? So you can get a very costly shared data plan from Verizon instead? If network coverage doesn't matter you are better of switching to T-Mobile or Sprint if you want to save money.


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Both say it's too early.

Verizon and AT&T both say it's too early because they haven't come to an agreement on what each other will charge. You know they don't just make major changes like that without getting a behind the scenes agreement for the other to follow suit. They may be separate companies but the collusion is so bad between them that they might as well merge.


gballer

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reply to Count Zero

Re: Bastards

or Straight Talk which would use AT&T's network or T-mobiles.


pnh102
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reply to spewak

Re: Duh

said by spewak:

Skype? Apple has shown that it can sell a multitude of devices and that that is all it cares about. Putting it's foot down? That's rich my friend.

I don't think this is the Apple you're looking for.

Apple was probably the only device manufacturer that was successful in keeping phone companies from installing bloat and other crapware on their phones. It has no problem getting providers to agree to even the most draconian of terms in exchange for allowing said provider to offer the iPhone.

With these facts in mind, why would Apple allow for AT&T to hand a competitive advantage to other devices which can run Skype and do voice chats over data (not Wifi), but which cannot do FaceTime? I'm sure Google would *love* for AT&T to allow for them to say "hey if you use voice chat with the iPhone you gotta pay more but if you do it with any Android device, you don't."

I'm still convinced that a FaceTime fee will be imposed unless it is proven otherwise... that's just how the cellular industry rolls these days.
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Count Zero
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reply to thegeek

Re: Bastards

Network coverage is very important to me. AT&T and Verizon both have good coverage around me, both have LTE too now, but Verizon has a little better indoor coverage in my hospital.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

It doesn't matter if they charge or do not charge....

....most people will still pay for it and will NOT cancel their service or lose their precious iPhones. They could charge double for iPhone service and people would still be lined up around the block waiting to be signed up just to get the latest iPhone even if all it does is improve the buttons.

Pay full price for an iPhone and then try and take it to another carrier? HA! That's a whole different argument that only a few people would do but not the majority.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI

3g unrestrictor

seriously, been using it for over 2 years, and facetime over 3G works flawlessly. Its just another way to extract more money from consumers wallets.

openbox9
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reply to cool_coda

Re: who's going to pay

said by cool_coda:

Seriously... it is a niche market for non-work related situations.

I agree. Do that many people really video chat with their mobile devices?

openbox9
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reply to pnh102

Re: Duh

said by pnh102:

It has no problem getting providers to agree to even the most draconian of terms in exchange for allowing said provider to offer the iPhone.

Did you miss out on some of the silliness that AT&T forced on the Apple customers during the first three years of exclusivity? While Apple may be able to extract big chunks of money out of the carriers for its "must have devices", it doesn't have the carriers by the throats.
said by pnh102:

I'm sure Google would *love* for AT&T to allow for them to say "hey if you use voice chat with the iPhone you gotta pay more but if you do it with any Android device, you don't."

Just wait


jgkolt
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facetime charge for unlimited customers

Just speculating, but i bet the facetime charge is for unlimited data users. i bet the share everything style plans allow it for free, but use up the data faster which is what the carrier would want. increased usage that is billable.


mob
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reply to openbox9

Re: who's going to pay

said by openbox9:

said by cool_coda:

Seriously... it is a niche market for non-work related situations.

I agree. Do that many people really video chat with their mobile devices?

I saw people trying to be very conspicuous about it a few times when it was new. Other than that? Can't recall a single time when I've seen people using video chat.

Now I have seen a bunch of d-bags with laptops using Skype in public places....
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openbox9
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said by mob:

I saw people trying to be very conspicuous about it a few times when it was new. Other than that? Can't recall a single time when I've seen people using video chat.

I can't recall ever seeing a person video chat with a mobile device. Maybe it's a college/high school thing?


mob
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It was at the airport, she looked like she was in her 40's or older.



aztecnology
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

I agree. Do that many people really video chat with their mobile devices?

When my wife was in Europe for 2 months we skyped & facetimed every day from our iphones...
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openbox9
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reply to mob
Hmm, so a Mom trying to act cool with her kids?


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