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Comments on news posted 2012-07-30 07:52:53: While the cable industry likes to pretend that cable "cord cutters" don't exist (or that they're a lower class of human being), apparently the feeling is quite mutual. According to a recent survey released by deal-aggregation website TechBargains. ..

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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

hmm

MY problem is that with stars gone from netflix a lot of movies and programs got dropped from netflix. To gte what I want I would have to pay for a lot of service to get everything and that ends up just as much as my family cable package from cablevision.

Also cablevision recently rearranged their packages to give more of a choice and I got encore added for free.

I guewss for certain areas this works but I do not see cord cutting saving me money in the long run.


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27

1 recommendation

What really is sustainable

that is high priced? And who is doing this research? I thought cord cutters are non-existent and not a problem! (sarcasm)

Been a cord cutter. Not by choice. When individuals lose an income source, when families have to scale back (thanks to Parent's for their Great Depression frugalness), when gas prices and food prices escalate (domino effect),... one should look at what one needs versus wants. And having a service that flips channels, removes them/adds multiple ones on a monthly whim, raises prices annually (content not improved, but shuffled), analyzes viewer habits and creates packages catered to PROVIDER not viewer, has a model driven by content and ads (ads aimed at 5yr old mentality with wallet of 50yr old)

If costs were halved, we would definitely go back. But when (let's call it basic HD since SD is supposed to be gone...right?) a standard package has hidden fees and STB/DVR rentals... it adds up to more than $40/mth (more like $100-$120 depending on # TV's and size of family). For some, that $40+ can fill their gas tank, pay for new clothes (kids do grow), go toward school money for kids, treat family to a movie night... but when you see what is really on TV lately, and that most can derive entertainment from Redbox, network streaming, Netflix, Crackle, Hulu, it really adds up. Inflated prices, in a recession economy does not make sense for the consumer.

(Funny thing, kids go over their friends house that have TV... and their parents talk with us about it and say they want to do the same thing...but eventually whose family will be the remaining ones to send the kids over!)

Hey, it's like coupons: once you find the ones that save you $$ on what you purchase, you think you won't stop using coupons?
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n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

1 edit

One More Step

I am at broadcast basic now and with the excellent UHF antenna setup I have, I could probably cut cable altogether though I watch one or two exclusive cable channels. Probably one more price hike will do it.
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7
reply to majortom1029

Re: hmm

said by majortom1029:

I guewss for certain areas this works but I do not see cord cutting saving me money in the long run.

Everyone doesn't fit the same profile. Some people cut the cord but expect to find substantially the same content elsewhere (network's site, Hulu, season episodes on DVD with Netflix once they are delayed, etc). Others may get what they can from freely available sources, and just settle for other content to fill the available time void. And finally, some will just say screw it and do something more productive with their time.

We cut the cord several months ago. We don't currently pay for any additional subscriptions (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime). Kids already played video games a decent amount of time, so any subscription during that time is wasted. And the amount of reading the family does as a whole as skyrocketed. If a greatly discounted package became available we might consider it, but I doubt we'd resubscribe at this point.

rtalcott

join:2003-12-02
Albuquerque, NM

cut the cord decades ago

I cut the cord decades ago...didn't see any point in the content then and still don't and that was before I had the Internet to play with...

bemis

join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA

I will not pay again until...

They lower the price of cable to be basically the infrastructure cost--cost to maintain the physical plant and rent out the equipment, then I will consider having it back in the house... I'm thinking ~$20/mo for what is now ~$60/mo.

Otherwise, the only way I will take it back is when they allow you to choose the channels you want in an ala carte fashion so that you can build your own line-up. It's insanity to pay $xx.xx for literally a hundred+ channels you will never even tune to. Charge about a $1/mo per channel.

There only a handful of shows that I like. I dislike the idea of disrupting an environment that might allow some of those quality shows to be produced (i.e. declining revenue forced them to focus on the absolute drivel that has the highest profit)... but at the same time, I'm not going to pay then $60-80/mo just so that I can watch SciFi channel.


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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CUP of salt please, Karl

the problem with quote survey is their is then little context of how the survey was done.
»www.techbargains.com/infographic ··· he-cable

1640 people who took the survey, while being offered a $100 prize at a site dedicate to bargain hunters.
They claim/the results show 3 in 10 have cut the cord...sometime in the last five years, even if you thought all the answers are truthful, 30% seems more like the number who discontinued while moving, or unemployed (most were in the under 25 group) or living with other, or got no TV set or moving to tibet or ???.
True cordcutters (those with the income to support their longterm existing subscription that then CHOOSE to permanently quit AND use alternate sources to avoid commerial sources is more likely around 3% and 33% of that would be 1%. which probably is a realistic "I will never return!" number, for those that actual intend to follow through.
Lots of people skip breakfast and have this "Hey man! I'm fasting! additude, at least until they walk in to the sub shop at lunch. "hey man I'm starving, let's get a couple footlongs! )
temporary displacement is more common than longterm commitment.

sludgehound

join:2007-03-12
New York, NY

cut cord 6 months back

Agree with the cutter posters. Why bother. In NYC the better cable shows like Burn Notice or The Closer make it to local stations. CBS comedies & dramas do well enough. Internet for rest of giggles. Wouldn't go back, and less chance of TWC price cut than a newspaper doing so let along movie theaters.
eReading on Net is also a pleasant method of rounding out time. Rest on art-photo making to escape netness. Ah, netness I like that. Coined a phrase that captures the madness and intentness possible from this mixed blessing.


Edge1
But these go to 11.
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join:2006-03-01
USA
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 recommendation

Happy cord-cutter here

Cord cutter going on 3 months now. Its been fantastic and at a savings of $80-$100/mo. Over the air antenna (awesome picture - better than cable), Roku, Netflix, and Amazon Prime. The Roku and OTA antenna are up-front one-time costs, then Netflix plus Amazon Prime equates to about $13-$14/mo. No DVR needed really. Roku/Netflix/Amazon Prime content all can be re-played from previous stopping point. 98% of advetising is gone. I actually get annoyed watching OTA TV and having to sit through commercials. Never looking back. Comcast raped me long for enough. No more, and damn happy about it.


FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5

1 recommendation

reply to tshirt

Re: CUP of salt please, Karl

said by tshirt:

the problem with quote survey is their is then little context of how the survey was done.
»www.techbargains.com/infographic ··· he-cable

1640 people who took the survey, while being offered a $100 prize at a site dedicate to bargain hunters.

They claim/the results show 3 in 10 have cut the cord...

sometime in the last five years, even if you thought all the answers are truthful, 30% seems more like the number who discontinued while moving, or unemployed (most were in the under 25 group) or living with other, or got no TV set or moving to tibet or ???.

This SURVEY is patently absurd on its claim that 30% of cable customers have cut the cord. If that were even 5%, the cable companies would be going crazy to get customers back.
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GraysonPeddi
Grayson Peddie

join:2010-06-28
Tallahassee, FL

Tallahassee?

You can't get cable TV turned off unless Comcast wants to charge you $10 more per month.


norbert26
Premium
join:2010-08-10
Warwick, RI

provided but i dont use it

Basic old fashioned analog cable is with broadcast clear quam channels are provided here. I rarely use it instead i stream most of my TV viewing VIA netflix or other sources. That said most people around me are hooked into cable by need of an ISP and those happen to be the same CABLE TV providers. Many are forced to keep some sort of TV service by pricing / bundling practices that make stand alone internet not pleasing. Let's not forget to add in CAPS designed to protect cable TV revenue. In most markets / areas cable TV may be the only real choice for an ISP due to lack of alternatives . Even in areas that have FiOS as an option this is just another glorified cable TV provider and while they don't have caps NOW and were dangling sweet deals to hook people in after these sweet deals ran out folks were back and forth between the whatever cable TV company and FiOS. Thats not really cut cording its just going back and forth in circles. True cord cutting requires an alternate TV source(s) that will work for you AND your family and an alternate ISP besides cable OR FiOS. This only leaves DSL however many can't get desired speeds compared to cable. Only other option is a WISP and many can't get a good enough signal in their home OR don't even have a WISP in range for this to work. Cell phone internet is usually CAPPED so it would only be very last resort for most.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

I'd Consider It

FIOS is currently expanding its service footprint where I live. If it ever does make it to my house I might consider going back if I could get a good deal, and play Verizon and Comcast against each other to get the best deal.

But right now, I'm staying cable-tv-free.
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Squire James

@embarqhsd.net
reply to FFH5

Re: CUP of salt please, Karl

The survey said 3/10 of cable cutters won't come back. There's no indication in this statistic how many were cable cutters to begin with.


Ytsejamer1

join:2008-01-18
Somersworth, NH

Count me in...

I am one of those cord cutters and am very content. Both my wife and I have been reading books (imagine that!) more often to fill time. It's a little more mentally stimulating than a lot of the drivel on TV.

But aside from that, we augment our watching with a netflix and hulu plus subscription. Once I got Hulu for the wife, she was perfectly content to watch her network shows on her schedule. It's like having a network TV DVR really.

All in all, I'm very content without the $125/mo bill for TV.


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:5
Reviews:
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reply to pnh102

Re: I'd Consider It

And where you live counts too.
with out basic cable I get zero over the air channels, not even locals so limited basic which only adds $2.83 to my broadband total is a no brainer yes. So I'm not a cord cutter, but they aren't making much money on me either.


mob
On the next level..
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I cut the cord a few weeks ago

And I'm not missing it at all. The only thing I am missing are annoying political ads that repeat 2-6 times per commercial break (I live on the border with a "battle ground state" so the bombardment is sickening).

I am putting the money I save into something that's actually fun to do.

QLR

join:2009-06-23
Tallahassee, FL
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to GraysonPeddi

Re: Tallahassee?

I never thought that no one wouldn't honor a disconnect request! I am a Comcast user in Tallahassee as well. I am happy with the lower end cable package. Digital Economy isn't anything to write home about but the pricing (I was paying $30 before I bundled it with Internet) but the pricing isn't too bad IMO... The Internet pricing on the other hand...

Needless to say, I am at my price limit on the TV side.


FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to Squire James

Re: CUP of salt please, Karl

said by Squire James :

The survey said 3/10 of cable cutters won't come back. There's no indication in this statistic how many were cable cutters to begin with.

That isn't what the web site says. Who knows what they MEANT to say.


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spewak
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Elk Grove, CA
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The Cable companies will NEVER lower their prices.
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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to bemis

Re: I will not pay again until...

Regarding "quality shows", be careful with that line of thinking. That's why we still pay for public television. It's another "fine arts and entertainment" social program.


RockCake
Premium
join:2005-07-12
Woodbridge, VA
reply to bemis
ala carte will never happen.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

1 recommendation

reply to tshirt

Re: I'd Consider It

said by tshirt:

And where you live counts too.
with out basic cable I get zero over the air channels, not even locals so limited basic which only adds $2.83 to my broadband total is a no brainer yes. So I'm not a cord cutter, but they aren't making much money on me either.

Absolutely. I did "get lucky" with the off air stuff but I needed 2 antennas (one large outdoor antenna aimed towards DC and a smaller cannibalized dipole antenna aimed towards Baltimore) to get all of the off-air major networks. I might modify that second antenna with another home-made rig to get more channels out of Baltimore.

Only the fact that I can "geek it out" in real life is what makes such an arrangement workable. Otherwise, I'd have kept "basic cable" too.
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antdude
A Matrix Ant
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join:2001-03-25
United State
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·Time Warner Cable

I will have to get cable. :(

In my old house, OTA was fine and on the right side of the hills/mountains. The new house can't get OTA due to a big hill/small mountain blocking the transmitters. So my family has to get a TV service. Sure, I can use Internet but caps is a problem. And I don't know how good my cable's Internet is over there too in the rural/ranch area. Also, no DSL and FIOS even in Verizon area. Ugh!

Sukunai
Premium
join:2008-05-07
kudos:1

1 recommendation

Depends on what you need

I was paying 65 bucks to a cable company for what? Shitty programming in bundles THEY decide at times of day THEY controlled so they could tell me which shows I was allowed to watch and with commercials too.

Is Netflix everything? Of course not and only a complete idiot thinks it is everything ever filmed.

But Netflix is a mere 8 bucks, not 65 and considering how much it DOES have, and I can watch an entire series, if I want, when I want, show after show any order I want, and no commercials at all ever.

Yeah it hasn't got every mega film feature ever screened, oh the horror. It DOES have more than enough for an average individual. I certainly have no complaints.

My wife was watching Emergency and Mc Millan and Wife the other day. Yeah you can say 'that's old shit'. So, how is it worse than new shit? Because most TV is shit to someone eh.

I can watch my Netflix on almost any of my devices, I don't even need to be at home at all. Suck on that cable.

Cable TV is what is wrong with a lot of the entertainment world, and they are as clueless as is Hollywood when it comes to reality.

Fact you do NOT need cable, and you can't spin it any way that suggests we do.

I've watched a few films in our local theatre in spite of not wanting to, but really EVER film I have watched recently, has been about wanting to watch it with a friend or family, it had nothing to do with having no choice. I COULD always just say screw them and download it.

My mother still uses cable for 2 reasons. A she's 80 and too old and set in her ways and she doesn't have a computer or internet access nor does she plan to get them. That and she has a need to watch bloody soap operas.
I could always just get her a device for Netflix, ditch her phone and cable and save her the 130ish bucks a month she is paying out and only be paying the 70 I do for my own needs.

But she is suffering from apathy, and really that is I believe what keeps cable going, too many people with too much apathy to join me.

She might lose being able to watch her damned Soap opera, but like my wife, she'd just discover all the things she'd be too busy enjoying to care. My wife also whined about losing her drivel cop shows and soap operas. She hasn't complained since she converted though.

I'm currently enjoying all the shows I DID like from the past 30 years and doing it at my speed my way. It's no biggie if I can't watch the current season of Game of Thrones on Netflix. That's why I have torrent software installed.

Cable companies, not am I only not going back, but I'd not mind if you also went away.

desarollo

join:2011-10-01
Monroe, MI
reply to FFH5

Re: CUP of salt please, Karl

The total number of respondents seems to be a woefully insufficient sample to infer across the population of all cable and satellite subscribers. However, refining the population to be people who are bargain hunters who use the internet, I'm sure the survey has relevance.

30% of that population has cut the cord, and 30% of those people would never go back. If only we knew what percentage of the total cable/satellite subscriber base were represented by the population of bargain hunters who use the internet, we'd have some fine numbers.

The problem with cable TV is that the programming is abysmal.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
·ooma
·Verizon FiOS

1 recommendation

perspective...

I challenge you to go to tvguide.com and see which content you can really not live without ($$ PAYING FOR $$).. with more and more cable-tv channels moving to the internet streaming and more movie & music content available for free or low cost-- does a cable-tv subscription still become relevant?

Google Fiber will learn this in spades when people register for their FTTP service. If you have GIGABIT (or any reasonable high speed internet) won't you buy the internet only and source your Video over IP yourself as a cheaper overall way to save money?
The free tablet remote and simplistic VOD/video recording/shifting to various screen simplicity not withstanding can be done with a streaming dvr box on your own home network.. why pay $50 a month for the content when you don't have to?

You can regularly find 10 - 12 cable-tv subscription channels streaming online including news networks, local channels, channels from other countries (which you would not ordinarily have access to) and loads of music & audio resources. You can use an android app such as tune-in or a PC app such as radiosure to play radio from around the world.. the expanded content from just 5-10 years ago is amazing... If you told me CNN & a dozen cable-tv channels would stream online for free 10 years ago, I'd say you were crazy..

Those 3/10 people know something the other 7 don't.. the tipping point is now (this year) not 5, 10 years in the future. Backlash against data caps from AT&T and Comcast will reach a head and change will come. After that, the floodgates of users using internet only video streaming (aka subscription cord cutting) will be into the millions instead of hundreds of thousands.. Yeah, consumers will get stuck with higher internet bills... sigh.. but saving $50, $100+ for content will probably be worth it for no caps, higher bandwidth and a cheaper video lunch..


franknalco

join:2005-01-27
Littleton, CO

more for less

I think the key here is that just a few years ago there wasn't any alternatives to getting cable. I basically had it by default. Now, I have options. I get Netflix, MLB.tv, and NBA Season Pass (more of the sports that I love than I ever had before), and an occasional rental from VUDU. I don't get anything I don't want, I get more of what I do, and I save some money. I am sure there are plenty of people who are happy with cable subscriptions and hundreds of channels, but at least some alternatives are popping up for the rest of us.


Uversefan73

@mycingular.net

I have uverse internet

If I knew I could get a la carte good selection of channels I like with decent video on demand for $30-$50 a month I'd take it but I won't pay over $60 off some garbage with 200 channels. One that boils my head some people pay >$100 a month for tv, that's crazy. Isn't just better to cut cord and instead go to a nice vacation for one week once a year?


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
reply to majortom1029

Re: hmm

Honestly, if someone came to my house , and I didnt have TV service, Id be embarrassed ! lol Sorry guys, "cutting the cord" will never be the "cool thing to do".

Aside from that, I need my YES channel and HBO. lol.