UK Government Pushes ISPs to Retain Data

Does anyone have the backbone to tell government?

These monitoring systems will be easily defeatable and I wish pols would just wake up and realize this.

Once the door is opened and mass surveillance becomes normal the system can be tightened as technology allows with no further discussion. The UK is also interested in repressing certain rights, and will catch people as long as they consider exercising rights as natural; to get them to take evasive measures is actually still success, since it indicates that they have internalized their disenfranchisement. At best they will have a false sense of security and incriminate themselves further, since government can always focus its vast resources and crush them at will.

And those bypassing the system in some way will stand out like a red flag. Then the govt will turn their other tools on those people.

how do you figure? Unless they plan on banning any form encryption(NOT LIKELY), it is too easy to defeat these black boxes.

and you think the government couldnt just get the records from your end or the destination end? encryption is useless in the day and age that the NSA needs simply send a "national security" letter to the destination website, or pull the "terrorist" card on you and seize your computer for the encryption keys.

They're just following Orwell's manual...

After all it's been a few hundred years since England has told us what to do.

You mean reality? Since all those things have already happened and happen every day? Seriously, it's getting tiresome for people in denial to keep claiming that anyone that actually follows the news and knows what's going on is a conspiracy theorist.

Do you HONESTLY believe that the government doesn't do these things? Stop fooling yourself.

no, I know they do these things. I think people that think they can't defeat it are the people fooling themselves. This who thing is theatrics. They won't catch anyone with their little boxes.

...when I read that headline:

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