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Comments on news posted 2012-08-09 16:42:38: Telecompetitor directs our attention to the fact that AT&T rather quietly this week launched a new wireless-based landline replacement service rather-creatively named "AT&T Wireless Home Phone. ..

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en103

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I was wondering

When AT&T / Verizon would do that.
They've been selling off POTS like rats sinking a fleeing ship.

The price is decent - $20/month unlimited or $10/month 'add a line' to existing wireless.

Only caveat gotta be somewhere where AT&T doesn't have POTS.
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The offering, dubbed A&T Wireless Home Phone, became available in late July in “select domestic markets where we do not offer traditional landline service,” an AT&T spokesman told Telecompetitor today.

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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hmm

Thats actually not bad for say a senior or something. For me its not worth it because i already have something like 7k in roll over minutes. I very rarely call anybody.

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to en103

Re: I was wondering

ATT really hasn't sold anything. They're last buyout netted them a HUGE footprint.

VZ has been selling off their Potslines as they don't want them. instead their other company CellCo Partnership is actually bringing in the $$$$.

rebus9

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reply to en103

said by en103:

When AT&T / Verizon would do that.
They've been selling off POTS like rats sinking a fleeing ship.

The price is decent - $20/month unlimited or $10/month 'add a line' to existing wireless.

Only caveat gotta be somewhere where AT&T doesn't have POTS.

quote:
The offering, dubbed A&T Wireless Home Phone, became available in late July in "select domestic markets where we do not offer traditional landline service,"; an AT&T spokesman told Telecompetitor today.

Just give it time. Wherever they can replace regulated copper services with unregulated substitutes, it will happen.

Just follow the trail of money. (and regulatory loopholes)

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

asa they should be able to get away with dumping pots and moving it to a new technology. the copper lines are 60+ years old in most areas, and need to be replaced anyway. So why spend the $$$ and replace them when you can move those customrs to a wireless technology? I've been saying for YEARS that smart companies would get rid of the last mile networks and move to wireless. ITS CHEAPER and easier to maintain.


rebus9

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said by 25139889:

get rid of the last mile networks and move to wireless. ITS CHEAPER and easier to maintain.

And UNREGULATED.

As an aside... I find it telling, that they claim to have a capacity crisis to justify putting caps on their "unlimited" data plans, yet turn around and try to push everything onto their wireless network.

Hmmm. As I said, follow the money.




IowaCowboy
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This is old news

They have been selling wireless home phone at the AT&T store at Holyoke Mall (Holyoke MA) for about 5-6 months now.

I had the home phone connect from VZW and I broke the contract as I got an alarm system and wireless home phones will not work with alarm dialers.

I went with Verizon landline for a few months and it was costing me $65 per month so I went back to Comcast for home phone since the alarm company said it did not make a difference (just as long as it is wired properly) and since Comcast offered a sweet deal on a triple play.

Wireless home phones are another gimmick from the cell companies. They are basically a cell phone and they give a false sense of security because 911 calls will be treated like a cell call (no or limited location information) whereas a landline (either traditional or facilities based VoIP like Comcast or Time Warner) will give exact location.

I would not trust my family's safety on a cheesy VoIP or landline replacement service like Vonage or Magic Jack. Either traditional phone service or a facilities based VoIP service fits the bill because they have Quality of Service standards and have battery backup.

They should have a warning on any VoIP or home phone replacement plan that it should not be relied on for emergency communications.

What really bothers me is that my neighbor has kids, has an inflatable swimming pool, and no home phone (cell only household). Imagine if one of the kids drowned (hope it does not happen) and they found their cell battery was dead or try telling a 911 dispatcher where they are located. 911 calls in this area are answered by the state police and transferred to the local jurisdiction. 911 calls from a wireline phone are answered by the responding jurisdiction.
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CXM_Splicer
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reply to rebus9

Re: I was wondering

True. I wonder if they will start forcing people to the unregulated service like Verizon is doing.


jjoshua
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Only $20?

Sure... What's the cost after fees and taxes?

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to rebus9

Re: I was wondering

Nothing new. Ohio already has UNregulated voice services once its bundled with LD or anything else- and bundled means ON the SAME bill. VZ and AT&T asked the PUC that over a year ago and got it. It's the issue in other states as well. The same as they can pull their wireline services with a 90 day notice to the state PUC.

WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
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Drop Fit Replacement?

Will it work for fax machines and dial-up modems?

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: This is old news

alarms still dial out?


WiFiguru
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reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

Wireless home phones are another gimmick from the cell companies. They are basically a cell phone and they give a false sense of security because 911 calls will be treated like a cell call (no or limited location information) whereas a landline (either traditional or facilities based VoIP like Comcast or Time Warner) will give exact location.

Actually the devices have built in GPS to support 911 on exact location of the device... just like cell phones. If you made a 911 call in your house with a cell phone, they would know exactly which part of your house you are in because of GPS.


BF69
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Camden, TN

reply to WHT

Re: Drop Fit Replacement?

Unsupported services
AT&T Wireless Home Phone may not be compatible with all services including home security systems, fax machines, dial-up internet service, DVR services, medical alert services (e.g. Life Alert), or credit card machines. The service cannot be used to make 500, 700, 900, 976, 0+ collect, operator assisted, or dial around calls (e.g., 1010-XXXX).


IowaCowboy
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reply to WiFiguru

Re: This is old news

If the GPS actually worked, then the 911 calls from my cell phone or any other cellular device would go to the Springfield (MA) 911 call center as opposed to the Massachusetts State Police Barracks in Northampton and have to be transferred to Springfield. I have called for emergency response on my cell phone quite a few times. I have the direct dial number to the Springfield Police dispatch (as well as the Police direct dial numbers for jurisdictions I frequently visit) as I can get through quicker than dialing 911 as I can bypass the Northampton State Police barracks.

Dial 911 from a landline, they have the exact location of the emergency and the call is automatically routed to the responding jurisdiction.

If you ever have an emergency at a public place (such as a mall or bus terminal) and there is a payphone nearby, then call 911 on the payphone because 911 dispatchers will get the exact location of the payphone and calling 911 on a payphone does NOT require a coin deposit because 911 is a free call under federal law. I only suggest this if there is a payphone plainly visible near the site of the emergency, don't waste time trying to find a phone booth if you have a cell phone and the payphone may or may not be working.
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tkdslr

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Been there done that..

Already have a similar solution.. Cost me around $48 in hardware and ~$6.60/mo.

Tracfone w double minutes, w376g($30) + 1 yr service(800-1000minutes)($80)
Siemens Gigaset One Blue Tooth gateway. $18.. (Officemax closeout)

I have text messaging when needed, caller logs, 7 day battery backup(cell phone).
All the features listed by At&t.. caller-id(numbers only), call waiting..

Plus the Gigaset one/(Xlink BTTN) links up to three cell phones to your home phones. Long distance+60 countries calling just uses normal air time.

I use Skype on my PC to dial toll free numbers.. (no charge)..others 0.02$ min..


IowaCowboy
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reply to 25139889

Re: This is old news

Alarms do dial out unless you want to pay 3x as much for the hardware and 2x as much for the monitoring. My alarm company quoted me $545 to install a radio box (monitoring fees would still be the same as the alarm company uses it's own mesh network) but I decided just to go the Comcast Digital Voice route as they offered my a triple play bundle for about $25 more than my double play (internet and phone) vs $140 for the double play and another $65 per month for home phone with Verizon.
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firephoto
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Brewster, WA

reply to en103

Re: I was wondering

Verizon probably made this secret deal with AT&T to come out first on this plan so they don't seem as scumbag themselves for deploying in all the areas they used to serve with landlines.

Also their price will be the same with different words to describe the level of service. And not collusion. Never. Not even close. Competition!
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djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: This is old news

ADT quoted us only a few dollars more per month for wireless monitoring. I don't remember what the equipment charge was though.
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JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

reply to tkdslr

Re: Been there done that..

but what if a nuke goes off
your phone won't work ;'(

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