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Re: I was wondering forget about wireline tech jobs...... |
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said by en103:When AT&T / Verizon would do that.
They've been selling off POTS like rats sinking a fleeing ship.
The price is decent - $20/month unlimited or $10/month 'add a line' to existing wireless.
Only caveat gotta be somewhere where AT&T doesn't have POTS.
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The offering, dubbed A&T Wireless Home Phone, became available in late July in “select domestic markets where we do not offer traditional landline service,” an AT&T spokesman told Telecompetitor today.
Verizon started out the same way with their home connect box. Karl even did the news article about it so he should know plenty about it. As time went on verizon expanded into other territories now anyone can get one in or outside of territory.
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Re: Only $20? $60? Exaggerate much? My POTS bill works out to ~$26, nearly half of which can be blamed on the Government:
Phone company charges:
Residence-1 Party Flat Rate: $14.93
Taxes/Government Fees:
Federal Tax: $0.78
FCC Line Charge: $7.22
USF Recovery Charge: $1.13
State Gross Receipts Tax: $0.37
Sales Tax: $0.21
Telecom Relay Service Tax: $0.08
E911 Tax: $1.50
Total Taxes: $11.29 (43%)
Total Service: $14.93 (57%)
Total Bill: $26.22
Mind you, I don't include long distance in that as I rarely make long distance calls, and I found a low cost/no-monthly free (Google 'Telna') carrier for those. Nor do I pay for unnecessary features like call waiting or caller ID. My POTS line exists solely for emergencies and for close friends/family to contact us. Nobody else has or needs the number. |
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ncbillPremium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to Simba7
Re: I was wondering Voice-only.
Plus I'm sure it's a compressed, low-quality codec.
Very little bandwidth to worry about.
My questions are : taxes, and can it back-feed a house's regular phone lines? |
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Chicago, IL | reply to Simba7
said by Simba7:said by 25139889:asa they should be able to get away with dumping pots and moving it to a new technology. the copper lines are 60+ years old in most areas, and need to be replaced anyway. So why spend the $$$ and replace them when you can move those customrs to a wireless technology? I've been saying for YEARS that smart companies would get rid of the last mile networks and move to wireless. ITS CHEAPER and easier to maintain. BAD IDEA. I can easily see multiple cell towers getting overloaded if everyone switched to this. Sure, replacing copper is a no brainer.. But we need to replace copper with.. FIBER! Having everything wireless is a recipe for disaster. Not to mention the spectrum needed to handle this endeavor would be enormous. Good idea.
It is cheaper to add another transmitter than to run copper wires.
I am sure this device will have a GPS lock just like with the cell repeater, or it will be locked into one cell tower only.
The whole point is they dont have to build up their entire mobile network to handle more mobile phones.
These will be fixed in one point, so they only have to expand 1 cell tower to service them. This is fixed point wireless not mobile.
I would not be surprised if the cost to run these wireless lines will be well under $1 a month over a 5 year period. They will get at least $19 profit per month per line. |
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said by ncbill:My questions are : taxes, and can it back-feed a house's regular phone lines?
if they made it the same as verizon's home connect box, it should be able to. Their home connect box looked no different than a ooma telo with an antenna on it. |
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Re: This is old news said by rody_44: 911 doesnt use the gps built into your phone. If you have a signal they can find you.
That depends on the carrier and the capabilities of the E-911 call center: What is a GPS-capable phone, and why is it so important for E911?
If you are in a high population density area with multiple cell towers communicating with your phone, then perhaps the E-911 call center can locate you using cell tower triangulation. If not, then they may only be able to make a guess as to which county you are calling from based on the location of the single cell tower to which you are connected. Not all of us live and always remain inside heavily populated urban areas.
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Re: landline Well I guess when the time comes they can reclaim it then, because I'm not giving it up, also not going to port, heard way to many horror stories and with how many people in the family are ill right now and old, i could not be down for more then an hour. |
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Canada
kudos:1 | reply to Simba7
Re: I was wondering said by Simba7:Sure, replacing copper is a no brainer.. But we need to replace copper with.. FIBER! Having everything wireless is a recipe for disaster.
Not to mention the spectrum needed to handle this endeavor would be enormous.
Agreed. Especially once you start talking about replacing DSL. The amount of wireless bandwidth (spectrum) required would be enormous unless they were to put cell sites at every city block. Might as well just run fiber everywhere.
Fiber is a high initial cost to build the infrastructure, but once it's in place the bandwidth is plentiful and dirt cheap. |
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Re: Interesting -- but it is the worst of both worlds "The advantage of POTS service is that you don't need power for it to function."
Agreed - that's why I still keep an old "turn the dial" phone around. (In the past, I was really good at just touching red & green together to dial a number). |
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Re: landline said by rradina:What will you do when the number of customers on copper drops far enough that the plant maintenance costs a fortune for those that remain? Maybe that's 10 years out but it's eventually going to happen. If you think the local PUC will prevent rates from doubling, rates are based on cost and if they show costs vs. revenue are out of whack, they'll get a rate increase.
I'd say 20 years not 10 and I probably won't be around in 20 years. Even if the rates go up (I doubt double in my remaining lifetime), I still would keep my landline. In fact, my landline company notified me on this month's bill that my unlisted, unpublished service monthly fee was more than doubling in price beginning next month. (I can't imagine why that service I have had since 1976 at a fixed monthly fee is suddenly more than doubling in price).
I have no interest in ever owning a cell phone because I value my privacy. I will get a cheap, prepaid cell phone only for emergency calls if, during my lifetime, public phones disappear. Plus, I pay my credit cards via my landline which is much more secure than a cell phone for that purpose or even my computer. My ISP offers joke phone service ....joke because there is no battery backup so no way to reach 911 during a power outage (we have quite a few of those). I don't even use cordless phones for years now because of the privacy issues with them and the fact that you had to keep a corded phone on hand for use during power outages anyway so why not just use the corded phone which has much better sound quality and better speaker phone.
I would spend less money if I switched to my ISP's Mickey Mouse phone service because of package deals but I know from others that unlisted, unpublished numbers with them is a joke and there is no battery backup. My local phone company's motto is "Always On" as a constant reminder that the cable company's phone service is not always on. Plus, who wants one of the monstrosity modems that is necessary if you get phone service from the cable company? I like my Surfboard modem very much and also do not want to go through the crap my friend is going through currently in order to upgrade his internet speed with no DOCSIS 3 EMTA modem available.
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Re: This is old news There are a bunch of pay phones in our mall at three different locations. Plus, there is one outside the mall building on the front of CVS. There are a bunch at the main grocery store and more in the next small mall. There are two at the entrance to Wal-Mart across the street. Where there is a noticeable lack is in the new shopping center that has a new Safeway and Target. They get less of my business for this reason even though they are nice stores. I rarely need to use a pay phone (why would I need to use a phone, except in an emergency, when I am away from home) but I want them available if I did need one.
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Kalispell, MT | reply to treyatl2006
Re: All the disadvantages of wireless Technically you don't have a dry loop then, and you PROBABLY are paying a ton in taxes and bogus fees. See if you can get a true dry loop... |
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Re: I was wondering Theres going to be too much maintenance in fibre optics and they will probably be the hardest to find the defects. If you shine a light down a fibre optic and the light doesn't come out the other end it is broken. How do you replace it. They are far too tiny to take out mixed in a cable with possibly hundreds or even thousand of these fiber lines. better ways of transmitting across airways is better. You just need better towers and no operators and all. Think of air ways as walkie talkie systems. You go from person to simply by a dial or digital readout. If you dial the number 544-4103 a computer built in your phone or your own pc will look for this satellite say the 544 is the satellite then in will transmit to the person on this network. It's more complicated I know that this but it can be as simple as that. There really is no need for operators or telephone companies. We just need the government to put up a few satellites and we do the rest. No need for any telephone companies who fleece us like we are just born losers. |
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Billings, MT | Um.. Are you familiar with recent fiber technology? If there's a break in the line (or defect), they can find it rather quickly and can usually trace it to inches or less. Repairing it is easy too since most of the fibers in a fiber bundle have a color-coded jacket.
The main issue is spectrum. They want it all and the intelligent ones tell them to piss off. Would you like the entire spectrum to be utilized for phone service? Heck no. I like my OTA broadcasts, thank you.
As for "Walkie Talkie" systems, that's one particular frequency that's shared between everyone. If you get a few hundred on the same frequency, it's damn near impossible to talk *and* you get to hear everyone's conversation.
Wireless is *NOT* the future, as everyone thinks it is. Sure, it's convenient, but in the long run it won't be able to handle the traffic. As for satellite, are you at all familiar with technology? Do you realize the latency satellite has? I hope you like a 1-2 second delay in your conversation.
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Re: Interesting -- but it is the worst of both worlds isn't this redundant?a cell that only works when plugged into power.and trapped inside the house. |
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Re: POTS? no thanks... said by tmc8080:Try Ooma.. you can buy that for about $100 - $180 and pay $3 - $5 a month in voip fees, and just use your broadband. It will pay itself off in less than a year.
Currently, the best deal is at costco for $169.99
»www.costco.com/Browse/Product.as···&topnav=
Right now, the less you buy from AT&T or VERIZON, the better..
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