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Comments on news posted 2012-08-16 12:27:25: As had been expected, both the Department of Justice and the FCC today stated they'd be approving Verizon's massive spectrum-sharing and co-marketing arrangement with the cable industry. ..

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Madness
Like a flea circus at a dog show

join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
kudos:1

Did we not see that coming??

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

hmm

typo ?

"allowing them to go back into DSL markets they gave up on in order to sell those users more expensive DSL services"

should read " allowing them to go back into DSL markets they gave up on in order to sell those users more expensive 4G services" ?

Great all but cements my future of moving on out of this country once my contract is up with my current employer. who wants to be owned by corporations.
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mech1164
I'll Be Back

join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ

Yep

To quote Spaceballs. "Oh S*&^ there goes the Planet"

Nothing like being bought and sold by Govt. It's the best Govt money can buy and here is the proof.


tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
Reviews:
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The big push has been..

...wireless, wireless, wireless, and this gets that done, including big help for T-Mo*.
As far as wireline, FTTH is over budget in many areas and cable is the next best thing.

My son will be SO happy, his new T-mo galaxy blaze 4g* gets little to no 4g at home, because of T-Mo limited towers and spectrum, this should let them finish the array.

*it switches to the home WiFi (something the virgin mobile phone he tried first wouldn't do) so he still gets all he needs at home, and once over the hill towards the city and at work he gets awesome service.


Alex J

@ecatel.net

Danger Will Robinson

So we're going from overpriced DSL vs. overpriced cable to just even more over-priced cable, with overpriced LTE bundled in. Great news! (for cable)


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

So better cable squat on the spectrum?

Yes that is so much better. Big picture people. See it. Sigh.


kingdome74
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join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
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Yay!

Another reason for Verizon raising their rates. Too bad because their ruinous pricings are going to kill them in the long run.


Mojo 77

@apexcovantage.com

reply to BF69

Re: So better cable squat on the spectrum?

Yeah brainiac, clearly the takeaway here is that people wanted cable to squat on that spectrum. You're such a big picture thinker.


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
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reply to kingdome74

Re: Yay!

said by kingdome74:

Too bad because their ruinous pricings are going to kill them in the long run.

Really!?? more people seem to signup for wireless everyday with V and T being 2 of the top carriers. In reality they seemed to have judged the market pretty well, profitable prices but low enough to keep the network near capacity.


Rob
In Deo speramus.
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:3

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Curious..

Historically speaking, has the government approved more mergers/arrangements between mega corporations closer to election times?

Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

reply to kingdome74

Re: Yay!

kingdome74, I like your avatar. Would love to see a larger version of it.


IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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·Verizon Broadban..

If the DOJ was really doing its job

If the DOJ was really doing its job, Verizon would be required to upgrade all of its markets to FiOS and be prohibited from divesting any of it's landline business and possibly be required to buy back divested markets. I bet Verizon would walk away from the deal if those conditions were a requirement.
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Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

reply to Rekrul

Re: Yay!

said by Rekrul:

kingdome74, I like your avatar. Would love to see a larger version of it.

»4.bp.blogspot.com/_TXTMeZrDibs/S···irls.jpg

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osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

Why Bother?

If the default answer is going to be approval, why even have regulators if they're not going to do their job?

As I've said numerous times, government is the only one who can fix this, because the companies won't do it themselves, that's for sure.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·ooma
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

+4 years, I told ya so!

Wirless is not going to be this big profit making machine they're expecting.. when you sell a product that commoditizes similar to the way gasoline is sold in this country, on the consumption and commoditization models supply and demand become disconnected to the pricing models. This has ways of exploding into very bad ROI.

The blow won't be as bad, since Verizon and AT&T plan on dumping the union labor force anyway... so there will be hundreds of millions of dollars saved axing middle class jobs in favor of 3rd party contractors who pay slave wages(aka minimum) and no benefits.

Did I mention those who buy data on the consumption gouging model are fools? Yep, you are!


tmh

@comcastbusiness.net

Anything that gives T-mo bandwidth works for me.

WooHoo!

ikyuaoki

join:2011-04-12
Wichita, KS
Reviews:
·Cox HSI

cable wins in USA...

...I told you so also that DSL or fiber connectivity is very limited in the geographical areas. more cable are wired available over the USA right there. have a nice day that i proved i'm right

Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

reply to Linklist

Re: Yay!

Thank you.

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: If the DOJ was really doing its job

Government should tell companies *not* to do bad things. I disagree with government telling businesses they must spend money on certain things, and go after certain markets and customers.

What if Verizon says they are going bankrupt and can't pay their workers, do we force the managers and employees to work without pay? Extreme example, but there are some things government should not do.


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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reply to IowaCowboy
And under what existing regulation could you force any privately owned business to invest many billions they do not have and likely could not borrow for those purposes as a condition of expanding a seperate PARTNERSHIP they also own PART of ????

while your at it make all cattle ranchers give away prime beef to everyone, and exxon can give free gas to fill our free chevies.

Of course all of these companies would walk away from such diadvantages.
the DOJ's job is not to kill deals, it is to examine them for deficiencies and can only REQUEST conditions/agreement in cases where it is most likely to result in an illegal practice with the assumption that the parties intend to act legally.
In this case the FCC has push the spectrum owner to move forward and either use the spectrum for mobile or trade/sell to someone who will.
in this case we have the cableco's release spectrum they have decided not to develop, whcih will be bought /split/traded to allow both verizon and T-mo plenty of new spectrum in useable blocks with the intention of rapid rolling out more wireless services
which meets the FCC's request.
a win for everyone.

seperately we have the 2 largest wireline telcos admitting that the wirelines are no longer affordable to maintain and currently ubiquitous FTTH is not economically viable so the are perparing with their wireless partners to provide wireless service at first outside their wireline areas, that could (if permited) meet their wireline/safety net obligations within their wireline areas as well as quickly rolling out LTE wireless broadband to MANY more areas.

None of this is perfect* but remember PERFECTION is the enemy of GOOD.

we could quickly have pretty GOOD wireless coverage for many, or we can insist on PERFECTION, and watch nothing at all happen for many years.


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