Gami00
join:2010-03-11
Mississauga, ON | its funny and sad at the same time. i'm glad they're doing it to apple.
but it is sad that it has now come to this in this silly patent wars.
the US patent system needs to be flushed and cleaned so that this doesn't happen anymore. |
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| What goes around comes around Apple should expect things happen to it as it does such things on to others. |
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Kamus
join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX | Are any of you guys surprised about this? I'm not surprised.
The consequences of this could mean that the next paradigm in personal computers comes from international companies as a result of all this patent madness.
The whole idea that apple "invented" the smartphone is an insult to intelligence. Anyone that knows anything about miniaturization saw this possibility long ago.
The iPhone wasn't "invented" in the year 2000 for a reason:
It wasn't possible back then. Just like it's not possible for them to "invent" a computer that fits in your blood cells at the moment.
But i can't wait for them to claim they were the ones that thought of it first once it becomes technically feasible. |
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| Good Let's ban all iPads, iPhones and Apple computers.
The world will be a better place without them. |
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| Clever ploy? I wonder if Google is just trying to do something so crazy as trying to get all Apple products banned to start the ball rolling on patent reform. |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to Kamus
Re: Are any of you guys surprised about this? said by Kamus:The consequences of this could mean that the next paradigm in personal computers comes from international companies as a result of all this patent madness. How do you figure? All the phones are already made in other countries, even for domestic companies. A foreign company needing to import a phone likely would have just as hard of a time if not harder time getting a phone distributed in the US then a domestic company.
The whole idea that apple "invented" the smartphone is an insult to intelligence. Anyone that knows anything about miniaturization saw this possibility long ago. |
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Re: Clever ploy? No. This is usually how patent wars are ended -- both sides sue each other over multiple patents -- once the potential for multi-year legal battles with multiple lawsuits from both sides becomes apparent, then both sides back off and cross-license the various patents and promise to not sue each other anymore. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to cdru
Re: Are any of you guys surprised about this? said by cdru:Apple never said they invented the smartphone. Their guff with Samsung is over design patents, how it looks as a whole. Ya.. Because Samsung's phones look EXACTLY like an iPhone. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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| said by Simba7:said by cdru:Apple never said they invented the smartphone. Their guff with Samsung is over design patents, how it looks as a whole. Ya.. Because Samsung's phones look EXACTLY like an iPhone. Apple has a 4.8 inch screen? The iphone looks like a toy compared to many of the other phones out there. |
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Kamus
join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX | reply to cdru
said by cdru:How do you figure? All the phones are already made in other countries, even for domestic companies. A foreign company needing to import a phone likely would have just as hard of a time if not harder time getting a phone distributed in the US then a domestic company.
I realize they are made in other countries, and yes i also know it's easier to ban imports than domestics.
Now, Lets fast forward just 7 more years, and technology allows for new products that aren't possible today. You have the means to bring this product to reality. Where do you go?
My guess is you wouldn't even try to test the legal system of the U.S. Instead, you could just target the rest of the world for your market. China should be just as big as a market as the US by then, if not bigger. and well, then there's the rest of the world.
If you start to really think about what is really going on here. It's companies fighting for the "ownership" of consumers.
We've already seen what the government is willing to do for the likes of the MPAA, and we're about to find out what it's willing to do for Apple.
And sure, i understand that their "guff" with Samsung is about the look and feel of the competition. Well, at least that's the reason they give. When in fact we all know the real reason is that they have a formidable competitor that is beating them everywhere else in the world.
I guess the only thing we can do is /popcorn. and watch this charade go on. |
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Re: Good said by osravens:Let's ban all iPads, iPhones and Apple computers.
The world will be a better place without them.
I've said the same thing about Windows for years. It (and Microsoft) is a plague on the world. |
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| Lawyers are the ones making money No mater who's suing who. The outcome of the lawsuit is lawyers. They are the ones making money. This is what America is all about. FREEDOM TO SUE!!!!!! |
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Re: Are any of you guys surprised about this? said by aaronwt:Apple has a 4.8 inch screen? The iphone looks like a toy compared to many of the other phones out there.
Really? I know someone with a 4.8 screen phone and the thing looks freaking huge. Not something I'd want to carry around. Heck, when I had my Treo 650 it was considered a brick compared to other phones of the time.
I'd settle for a 4 inch screen but in reality the high resolution of the iPhone has made it less painful going back to a smaller screen than I thought it would have been. |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | reply to Anon
Re: Clever ploy? hell.. Who needs to watch drama on Tv when you can look at the tech sector!!?! |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
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That generally is the end goal cross license after limit damage payments.
But Apple leans heavily towards the "take no enemies, have no friends" end of the spectrum, tending to push for the kill when the can and sharing ONLY when it's the last choice.
Sometimes it costs them access to more inovation, but when sucessful leaves them with no competition.
Funny how MS got the crap sued out of them by gov't (EU and DoJ) for attempting to do that only on the software side, but apple walks free with praise for doing the same thing with a closed hardware, O/S, software, and APP store device enviroment*.
*even though it pretty clear they alone did not invent/concieve/buy/own the IP behind the developed products. |
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Re: Are any of you guys surprised about this? said by cdru:Apple never said they invented the smartphone. Their guff with Samsung is over design patents, how it looks as a whole.
Yeah, like "an essentially rectangular device with evenly-rounded corners." C'mon. My Palm Centro meets that test, and it's certainly no iPhone. I doubt even Apple has so little shame as to accuse Palm of having copied them, being as the Centro and iPhone were introduced at roughly the same time.
Many of Apple's patents are nonsense. Unfortunately, for Apple, my guess is most of Motorola's are not.
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 tmh
@comcastbusiness.net | Thermonuclear war Apple wanted one, now they have it. |
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| madness Google is letting samsung use its IP attys. lol. The apple suit was just a way to whack at google via the No. 1 android maker. So two (or three) of the most profitable cos of all time »hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/···=DEFAULT are now fighting each other so the consumer can "win"?. I think not. Ok I claim a right to every idea ever thought of. Done. I win. Now pay me.
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Re: its funny and sad at the same time. said by Gami00:the US patent system needs to be flushed and cleaned so that this doesn't happen anymore. If PTO offices all over the world bothered doing obviousness and prior-art test instead of blindly granting patents and letting courts sort it out afterward, things wouldn't be that ugly.
Lowering the proof threshold for prior-art, obviousness, natural process and other patent invalidation motives would help clear a lot of this BS. |
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Cogdis
join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY | reply to itguy05
Re: Are any of you guys surprised about this? said by itguy05:Really? I know someone with a 4.8 screen phone and the thing looks freaking huge.
Which is why the lawsuits don't make sense. Nobody would confuse a Galaxy S with an Iphone. Apple does not have a patent on the color black. Actually I think Samsung did away with black for the S3 anyway... |
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