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Comments on news posted 2012-08-31 08:53:11: HBO is finally allowing users to view their broadband streaming content without having to subscribe to traditional cable. Unfortunately, it's only happening in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark. ..

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LightS
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join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

Speaking of a walled garden...

I wish that big corporations were in it with us, instead of looking from the outside in.

I like HBO Go. Don't have a subscription, but I know people that do & it's pretty good.

mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

Testing the waters

HBO is just testing the waters here. But this is a hopeful sign for people wanting a shake-up of the current delivery model.

I've said it before, the only services that can truely start a major shake-up in content delivery are HBO and ESPN. Once either one, or both, of these services have a subscription model not dependant upon the cabelco/telco/satcos, everything will change.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Interesting

I'm not sure what to think here... HBO is more or less "stuck" with its current business model:

1. It becomes a radically different business when you have to do billing and content delivery all by yourself.

2. If you offer an easy-to-use alternative, more people will drop cable... the cable companies upon who you depend for 100% of your current customers won't be thrilled with that.

3. It stinks even more when you have very popular content:

»gizmodo.com/5916885/more-people-···s-on-hbo

The problem of course is that as so many people pirate HBO content, they will be less inclined to be drawn into a legitimate alternative that will cost them more money they are paying now.
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AnonFTW

@rr.com

said by pnh102:

The problem of course is that as so many people pirate HBO content, they will be less inclined to be drawn into a legitimate alternative that will cost them more money they are paying now.

I cut the cord but pay for most of the services that offer compelling content. The rest I download from alternative sources. I'd pay $9.99 a month for HBO during the Game of Thrones season rather than pirate the episodes. Pirating can be a much more difficult and laborious process than opening an app and clicking "Buy" or "Rent."

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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reply to mogamer

Re: Testing the waters

I think youre dreaming. Its gonna be a long , LONG, time before HBO offers this in the states. Im thinking, 134 years.

HBO should be offering this in the UK. Every daughter, husband and grandmother torrents Game of Thrones in that country.


Morac
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join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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We'll never see this in the U.S.

The cable companies wield way to much power to allow HBO to offer themselves as a stand along service.

Comcast won't even allow HBO to offer their HBO2Go service on Roku (Comcast blocks it), for reasons I can't begin to fathom. Comcast does allow HBO2Go on XBox360, but Microsoft probably threw a pile of of money at Comcast to allow it.
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ITALIAN926

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reply to AnonFTW

Re: Interesting

See, for people overseas with no other options, I can almost sympathize with. You are choosing to engage in illegal behavior. You dont get to pick when , where, and how you can follow the law. Holy shit I hope you get a $100,000 bill in the mail.

"AnonFTW" using a roadrunner email, lol , I hope the RIAA/MPAA subpoena this website for IP addresses of users LMFAO.


spewak
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Testing the waters

said by ITALIAN926:

I think youre dreaming. Its gonna be a long , LONG, time before HBO offers this in the states. Im thinking, 134 years.

Those are my sentiments exactly. They are being douche nozzles and dangling the stand alone subscription in our red, white and blue faces! Asses
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kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL

reply to pnh102

Re: Interesting

Point #1 has never stopped anybody from trying. #2 is the real problem, and if cord-cutting reaches critical mass, cableco's and content providers alike will have to seriously consider the options they now consider taboo.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

reply to ITALIAN926

said by ITALIAN926:

See, for people overseas with no other options, I can almost sympathize with. You are choosing to engage in illegal behavior. You dont get to pick when , where, and how you can follow the law. Holy shit I hope you get a $100,000 bill in the mail.

"AnonFTW" using a roadrunner email, lol , I hope the RIAA/MPAA subpoena this website for IP addresses of users LMFAO.

Way to be Judge Dredd there... why do you presume that the previous poster is pirating content simply because he/she said "alternative sources?"
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD

reply to kaila

said by kaila:

#2 is the real problem, and if cord-cutting reaches critical mass ...

Therein lays the rub. Cord-cutting is still a very, very, very small segment of the population. If the current rate of complete subscriber dropoff continues, it will be decades before cord-cutters are a large enough market for us to be taken more seriously by content providers.

The other problem is this. Most of us who cut the cord did so for financial reasons. We *don't* want to pay a lot of money for content. That's not exactly a major incentive for content providers to come jumping.
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ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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reply to pnh102

quote:
I'd pay $9.99 a month for HBO during the Game of Thrones season rather than pirate the episodes.
Cmon man.

mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Testing the waters

said by ITALIAN926:

I think youre dreaming. Its gonna be a long , LONG, time before HBO offers this in the states. Im thinking, 134 years.

I think that it will be in less than ten years. Still a long time from now, but it will happen in our lifetimes.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD

reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Interesting

said by ITALIAN926:

quote:
I'd pay $9.99 a month for HBO during the Game of Thrones season rather than pirate the episodes.
Cmon man.

I'd rather pay $9.99 a month for HBO than pirate the episodes too.

I do not pirate the episodes though.

This kind of thinking makes me wish our civil court system was set up so that the plaintiff would have to prove that the defendant is liable for what is claimed in the lawsuit, instead of the current system that enables someone like you to make spurious claims, and then the defendant must prove that he is not at fault.
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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to mogamer

Re: Testing the waters

And here is the rub with that:

What's different this time around is that Scandinavia is a market where HBO doesn't have to protect an entrenched business model as lucrative as the one in the U.S., where a standalone product would jeopardize its deals with distributors from Comcast to DirecTV

Emphasis added by me.

HBO could easily offer all their material standalone. They simply choose not to because of the above.

sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
11111

Sign up requirements?

Just wondering if you could get a VPN or Proxy server in those countries to have access.

talz13

join:2006-03-15
Avon, OH

reply to AnonFTW

Re: Interesting

It can be difficult, but some programs make it as easy as:
1. Type in the name of a show
2. Select the one you meant from the list
3. Hit "Add Show"
4. Get new episodes downloaded automatically from that point onwards

praetoralpha

join:2005-08-06
Pittsburgh, PA
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reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

Cord-cutting is still a very, very, very small segment of the population. If the current rate of complete subscriber dropoff continues, it will be decades before cord-cutters are a large enough market for us to be taken more seriously by content providers.

All it takes is some marketing douche to say that cord cutters are the hot new customers, it will be big enough immediately, regardless of how few of them there are. No decade needed.


BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Skippy25

Re: Testing the waters

said by Skippy25:

And here is the rub with that:

What's different this time around is that Scandinavia is a market where HBO doesn't have to protect an entrenched business model as lucrative as the one in the U.S., where a standalone product would jeopardize its deals with distributors from Comcast to DirecTV

That's the point it wouldn't. I mean yes cable companies would get mad but they have ZERO reason too. They wouldn't lose a thing. So if cable companies wouldn't be stupid then HBO could offer this without worries.

Listen cable companies offer HBOGO for free if you pay for HBO. Typically $15 a month. If HBO sells HBOGo standalone at $15 a month. Why would a person stop getting regular HBO and just go with HBOGo? You're paying the same price but getting LESS.

If they want to argue that potential HBO subscribers would go with HBOGO instead the same point applies. Why would they? Either way they get HBOGO for the same price but getting it through cable gives you access to regular HBO. Once again why pay the same price and get less.

If they want to make the case that some cable customers may cut the cord if they can get it stand alone. A) I doubt that happens much B) They continually state that cord cutting doesn't exist. People who have cut the cord aren't going to go back to cable just because you're forcing them to get HBO via cable. Otherwise they wouldn't have cut the cord. They either do with or they illegally download HBO shows.

mdurkin

join:1999-08-11
San Bruno, CA

I don't think HBOGo requires any relationship with ISPs

HBOGo certainly requires a subscription to their traditional channel, but I don't think there are any deals required with your ISP. I used HBOGo without trouble until I dropped Dish and thus my HBO subscription recently, and my ISP most definitely has no deal with HBO. The HBOGo website only makes mention of participating TV providers, no references I see to any requirement for your ISP.

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