 FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | the report defines an HD stream as 2 Mbps I'd be curious to see what a real HD stream would use. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | More than 1/5 If you take into account the people that can't stream because they don't have cable or DSL available to them it's closer to 30%. |
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BobAccount deleted
join:2012-07-22
New Jersey | reply to FBGuy
Re: the report defines an HD stream as 2 Mbps 8 Mbps |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to FBGuy
Netflix uses around 5 Mbps |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Bob
Only Vudu actually uses bitrates that high and you'll pay extra for that too. |
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said by FBGuy:I'd be curious to see what a real HD stream would use.
It depends on the codec and compression.
19MBps is the maximum that broadcast HDTV can use and they use a less efficient codec (MPEG2). Blu-ray Disc (BD) can use more than that. Streaming tends to use less because of home internet connections typically being lower bandwidth. It is a chicken and egg scenario. |
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BobAccount deleted
join:2012-07-22
New Jersey | reply to BF69
I guess I was approaching it from the standpoint of: What connection speed is required to be able to receive any true HD stream? |
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| it doesn't matter With usage caps and CATV protecting legacy business models it doesn't matter here in the U.S. . Solve that problem first then go from there. |
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SukunaiPremium
join:2008-05-07
kudos:1 | reply to FBGuy
Re: the report defines an HD stream as 2 Mbps Looking at the map it is hardly shocking the states that have the least broadband correspond nicely with Canada's northern wilderness.
Hardly shocking eh. Why would there be a lot of broadband in places where there is a lot of no one around. |
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 juilinsandarTexas GoonerPremium
join:2000-07-17
San Benito, TX | Surprising that California isn't green with silicon valley and many hollywood entertainment companies, one would think they'd have great HD streaming.
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | 18% Lack Adequate Bandwidth for HD Stream Are you surprised by the study's findings that about a fifth of the United States is not capable of seamlessly streaming HD content?
No, not at all, in fact I was suprized we do so well. |
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| Greedy Corporate Greedy + High price = Low bandwidth |
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| These reports are still BS. These test what users subscribe to not what they can subscribe to. Therefore these "state of the internet" reports are BS.
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pandoraPremium
join:2001-06-01
Outland
kudos:1 Reviews:
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Re: More than 1/5 said by BF69:If you take into account the people that can't stream because they don't have cable or DSL available to them it's closer to 30%.
I read the report, while households and corporations are mentioned. The methodology doesn't appear to exclude cell phones or Wi-Fi at a hotel. It also doesn't appear to consider some users may want less than 2Mb speed if they primarily surf or watch low res flash videos.
If at phone user has less than 2Mb of download capability, is it really a crisis? Do I expect my local Motel 6 to provide me individually with 2Mb reliably?
I'll try to link a copy of the report. I wish the methodology was better described, and that non-landline based access were explicitly excluded. Inclusion of Wi-Fi in hotels, and potentially corporations (or even homes) can skew the data badly. This is not taken into account as best I can tell.
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| What is recommended overhead... when you have 2-4 family members streaming...? 30Mbs?
-computer software updates
-appliances on network
-i devices (phones, tablets)
-gaming consoles
Adds up fast, especially with 2 or more in the household using netflix, hulu, amazon, youtube, news and weather sites,
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aerithPremium
join:2008-12-31
Milpitas, CA | reply to juilinsandar
Re: Surprising that California isn't green To me, I am NOT surprised that California is not in "green", when it comes to HD streaming, especially with Netflix in "rich" Los Gatos, CA.
In Netflix's Los Gatos area, the only two options are Comcrap, which is terrible, and Verizon, but no FIOS.
Los Gatos was an ex-GTE market, until Verizon bought out GTE.
Even though one can buy a Lamborghini in Los Gatos, Verizon will not deploy FIOS over there, yet Verizon will deploy FIOS in more crime-ridden Long Beach.
The broadband status in most of the SF Bay Area, is very poor, at best, and as I said in another topic, there will be no true fiber optic solutions, for maybe now forever, because stupid Google didn't want to start in Mountain View.
I am definitely considering a move to Long Beach, and getting out of this SF Bay Area broadband hellhole. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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Re: More than 1/5 said by pandora:
If at phone user has less than 2Mb of download capability, is it really a crisis?
Of course not! It's still in development mode (and really always will be) and I suppose "streaming HD video" is a better metric than say "can send 230k emails(spam) per hour"
But no crisis exists just because every household nationwide can't YET stream HD or or play games or the equivilent measure of USEFUL stuff.
but when they change the measurement method and unit size every year it is hard to look and see we',re better off then we were 4 years ago, and last year and are excelerating the rate of improvement. |
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Re: the report defines an HD stream as 2 Mbps 200mb/s |
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Re: What is recommended overhead... gigabit and you're done |
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Tulsa, OK | in other news of the obvious This map overlays almost perfectly with a state population density map...with South Dakota being an outlier.
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