jacourPremium
join:2001-12-11
Matthews, NC | What, me worry? Meet the Alfred E. Newman of the communications industry. |
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| it'd be funny if... google came out and said, we have plans to deploy to all major cities within 10 years or something... see what Verizon, TWC, and Comcast do then... even if google doesn't it'd in the end after saying it, it would still whip them up into an oh crap what do we do frenzy |
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 ChiyoSave Me Konata-ChanPremium
join:2003-02-20
Charlotte, NC
kudos:1 | Sadly I think she is right. I think we are stuck with what we have and won't be seeing any national fiber deployments anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong but we'll see.
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Bhruic
join:2002-11-27
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | Sad I like how it's not "we can compete on price", or "we can offer a better service". I mean those would be obvious lies, but still, that they don't even bother to try and promote their own services is pretty damning. |
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| Google Fiber The important issue of Google Fiber isn't the amount of direct competition it poses to TWC but rather the demonstration of what is possible and what dinosaurs the incumbents are. |
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Re: Sad Disruption is a biatch. You have to dismiss, because it's light years better--until it really starts hurting. Then you pay off your local congress or legislature to erect artificial barriers.
In my area if you pay more than $100 for a 3-play you are a sucker. TWC just threw me a deal for $89 for a year, a free home DVR and 3 months of pay channels. Of course we have robust competition and I have FIOS. My brother who lives in a TWC-only area pays $160 for the same gig minus the whole home DVR, it would be $200/mo.
TRUE competition in open markets is better for everyone...Of course the weak companies die, but that is what should happen, not kept afloat by government regulation and protection.
I imagine if Google said Baltimore, Buffalo, Boston..I'm here Verizon wouldn't take a dump... I guess VZ doesn't like B's.... |
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| heh Eighth competitor?? Can he really say that with a straight face? |
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4 | Come on, Google (and others)! Spread your fiber and cause some competitions! |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to Bhruic
Re: Sad I think she's saying Google is providing service at a loss. Of course the first location will cost more as they learn the business. It's a good question for Google. If they can't break even, it makes no sense to expand.
They only need to break even, to drive down competitor prices and get more people online, viewing ads. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | reply to Chiyo
Re: it'd be funny if... KC will demonstrate, at the expense of Google shareholders and taxpayers, once again, that only a minority population is willing to pay the price for fiber speeds.
Google is not offering a competitive product.
Time Warner has little to worry about unless Google un-bundles its TV tier and substantially lowers prices. |
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| these things start small.. yeah, and California's getting hit with the highest gasoline prices in the country.. no wonder they're pushing ethanol, natural gas, electricity and hydrogen..
when the incumbent monopoly & duopolies break the last straw, there will be a reckoning.. and while it's doubtful it will come from google fiber (they've as much as said they won't take it nationally) there are alot of geographies which are very complacent about utilizing 50 year old copper and letting customers suffer from no competition and decades old technology while collecting higher and higher tolls for what services they can provide on antique equipment (some of which is DSL) |
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Re: Sad Yeah, they don't really care about the product at all, just their profits. TW could probably roll out 100/15 for half the cost of Google Fiber, but since there is no pressure they are happy to pile up the money. Now that DSL is giving up in most areas they're actually more likely to degrade service. Rolling back to 5mb/s is probably too shocking and might get government attention, but metering could be a great opportunity |
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Re: it'd be funny if... Please ship me some of what you are smoking as I want to go through life being as delusional as you. |
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 El QuintronResident Mouth BreatherPremium
join:2008-04-28
Etobicoke, ON
kudos:2
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| said by Skippy25:Please ship me some of what you are smoking as I want to go through life being as delusional as you.
It's called "shill-weed" and it only grows in corporate boardrooms and PR offices. The stuff is garbage anyways... 
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oratam
join:2007-12-21
Stockton, NJ Reviews:
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| heh I love how people say Google is not going to make money. I wonder how valuable the data will be to advertisers who can not only see where the commercials are being seen as well as well as dictate where the commercials are being shown. With google's advertising background as well as profiles they developed over the internet to tailor ads to the specific customer, they can extend this considerably to the television commercials. That is a premium market that they could charge more to advertisers. I believe the only reason they haven't announced nationwide expansion is to limit the fallout until they establish the foothold. Do see any phone company not opening up the war chest to fight them?
The next part is when they establish how much of a boon and economic growth develops from the fiber. How many companies come to the area to cut down on bandwidth costs. How many startups open up because of it. How many people move to the area. Do you think any politician will not turn down a chance to add that economic growth to his or her proverbial resume. |
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Re: it'd be funny if... Really? How much will 10/1 internet and basic digital cable cost you from TWC? I bet you more than $120 unless you're on a yearly promo. |
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Re: heh Google will also be able to cross-reference viewing habits with other services, searches, wallet, g+ etc. They could sell data to advertisers that people watching xyz show is also buying these products from G Wallet or is searching xyz things.
They could come up with a method for advertisers to launch a website on the remote (Nexus tablet) when the TV ad appears, allowing viewer to impulse buy directly from tablet using G Wallet. That's far more powerful for advertisers than what trad broadcasters can do. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | reply to elray
Re: it'd be funny if... said by elray:Google is not offering a competitive product.
You either smoke some good shit or have some serious mental issues. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to elray
You do realize that the so called fibre costs are about what tw charges for 50mb right? |
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 alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | reply to neufuse
said by neufuse:google came out and said, we have plans to deploy to all major cities within 10 years or something... see what Verizon, TWC, and Comcast do then... even if google doesn't it'd in the end after saying it, it would still whip them up into an oh crap what do we do frenzy
Google did say that years ago, and to this day they still don't have a good Plan for Fiber deployment. Verizon is the only one that has a good Fiber Plan, and now they are even going to raise their prices. If you want lots of Fast Bandwidth, Verizon is about the only show in town with good FTTH. Google still doesn't have a Plan for that Last Mile, and all you guys here think just drop the Fiber from the closes Pole! That's not a Plan, that's ugly disaster waiting to happen! |
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