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Comments on news posted 2012-09-21 16:38:17: After several years where the term MVNO was synonymous with total failure (it still may be), we've seen a flurry of new MVNOs in the last six months emerge that are intent on price disruption. ..

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TingTing

@sbcglobal.net

So...

When will I have an opportunity to bid on their office supplies and furniture when the company goes under in 2 years?


Network Guy
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New York
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·Optimum Online

1 recommendation

Not Solavei, but SIMPLE Mobile

I just bought an unlocked LG phone to try out with SIMPLE Mobile, another T-Mobile MVNO.

Yes, their 3G service is unlimited. What they don't tell you about this 3G service is that is throttled to 300kbps/120kbps.


Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 recommendation

What's the advantage?

T-mobile already charges 49.95/month for their own tier one provider service when you bring your own device.

Why should I go with an MVNO and get no roaming or any of the other small perks that come with using a tier one provider when the price is the same?


robertg1234

join:2004-04-19
Palo Alto, CA
reply to TingTing

Re: So...

Auction houses (especially office/industrial) are as rigged as the MVNO itself. With even more hidden fees than the carrier!



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
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Evanston, IL
reply to Angrychair

Re: What's the advantage?

they pay for referrals.



IowaCowboy
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I'll stick with Verizon

I'll never do business with an MVNO. I will only do business with tier 1 providers (that actually own and control the infrastructure). I have had US Cellular (when I lived in Iowa, Cingular/AT&T, and Verizon. I like Verizon the best but was forced to do business with Cingular/AT&T because Verizon had good coverage in Iowa but had very spotty coverage when I moved to Springfield, MA so I did business with AT&T for a while until Verizon could fill the dead spots in Springfield (which they did and now they have better coverage than AT&T) and now I finally was able to add Mom and Grandma to my Share Everything plan because they use the phone for mostly talk.

Can't wait to get the iPhone 5 (which ill probably get in December as I am elgible for an upgrade at the end of November). I am glad that the iPhone 5 has LTE and we have plenty of LTE coverage in the Northeast.
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SysOp

join:2001-04-18
Douglasville, GA
reply to Angrychair

Re: What's the advantage?

Tmobile $50 unlimited prepaid is only 2G data.



tiger72
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reply to Network Guy

Re: Not Solavei, but SIMPLE Mobile

Cool Story, Bro



SysOp

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Douglasville, GA

1 recommendation

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: I'll stick with Verizon

off topic much?



IowaCowboy
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Must be an ADHD moment...

Some posters above were discussing why do business with the MVNO in question when the host carrier charges the same for the exact same service (which I based my comment on) so I thought I'd share my experience with cell phones and providers. I have no experience with MVNO carriers but I have heard of them coming and going like here today gone tomorrow one hit wonders in the music industry. I have been using cell phones since 2001 and the carrier (Verizon) that I had in high school (I graduated in 2002 and hid a Verizon prepaid phone in my pocket since we were not allowed to possess them in school) is still around today and is better than ever with their LTE network. In the 10 years since I graduated, many MVNOs have come and gone (like Chumbawumba and 'NSYNC in the music world) but Verizon is still strong today. I have had AT&T for about six years but I think that Verizon has much better phones. When I left VZW for then Cingular, I felt like the phone I bought (an LG L1400) was a downgrade from my LG VX6000 on VZW. I had to switch do to Cingular because of poor VZW reception but I am back on VZW today. Phone quality is no longer an issue as I have been using the iPhone since 2009 and plan on buying the iPhone 5 in December.
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broccoli

join:2007-11-29
Portland, OR
reply to SysOp

Re: What's the advantage?

There are no '2G-only' T-Mobile data plans. You are free to use whatever is avaliable, whether it's GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSPA, HSPA+, as long as you subscribe to data.



SysOp

join:2001-04-18
Douglasville, GA

Sorry. *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds

After that you get throttled to 120kbps aka 2G speeds.


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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pricepoint

$49, $50.. is not a market disrupting pricepoint.. and unlimited still has a limit ring to it when the carrier involved is tmobile.. who charges alot more for unlimited data.. upwards of $70+ on a smartphone plan last time I checked.

cingular offers this around the same price.. and are more aggressive in offering deals than a tmobile mvno.



ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN

This the one?

I wonder if this is the plan wherein Unlimited = 5gb?



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
reply to tiger72

Re: Not Solavei, but SIMPLE Mobile

Yes, it was; and it serves as a notice to those seeking to hop aboard without knowing what they're getting into.


elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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·EarthLink

Fail...

If the service is truly unlimited (no caps, throttling, tethering or hotspot restrictions, no Simple-Mobile redefinition of 3G/4G), then it will be an overnight success ... until a few months later when it crashes and burns as the data-hogs latch on and drag response time down to "2G" speeds for all.

If it isn't truly unlimited, it will remain unremarkable, and fail to attract customers.


BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

More aggressive pricing

Same terrible T-Mobile coverage. T-Mobile and Sprint could be free, and they will wouldn't compete with AT&T and Verizon's networks.



fuziwuzi
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Atlanta, GA

1 recommendation

said by BiggA:

Same terrible T-Mobile coverage. T-Mobile and Sprint could be free, and they will wouldn't compete with AT&T and Verizon's networks.

There you go again, spewing the same crap that everyone has debunked again and again. I have to give you credit for being persistent... persistently wrong, nonetheless. Are you still mooching off your Mom?
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Lone Wolf
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SimpleMobile

For only $40 monthly I use SimpleMobile, another TMo MVNO.

No problems, great coverage and I'll never go back to paying full price when I can get everything I need for $40, no tax, no FCC fees, only $40 unlimited.

I can remove the SimpleMobile SIM card from my Android phone and drop it in my Samsung Galaxy Tablet and have a giant NAV system with phone service for the road.

»www.mysimplemobile.com/
Love it!
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cehanis
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Renton, WA

1 edit

Well... As a long time DSLR member..

I can say I first learned of this back in early July. Signed an NDR after a long discussion with an acquaintance (who is a sports star you would all recognize). Started service during the beta about 4 weeks ago.

I left Sprint after 12 years, the last two being miserable. Solavei is for real. Yes there has been some small challenges during beta, but none were show stoppers, for example I needed to manually setup the APN as their push to the device didn't work on my phone. Took about 45 seconds and it's been perfect since.

If you do the research there are some big, big names involved in this. Jim Ryan left a very high ranking position at ATT Wireless to come to Solavei. John Rittenhouse former Wal-Mart COO is the COO at Solavei. Several key, high ranking, executives from T-Mobile are on the executive team.

Bottom line this isn't your average MVNO. Toss out the psuedo MLM money making opportunities and it's still a great value at $49 a month (I'm getting full speed data here in Seattle, averaging about 14Mbps downstream on my Samsung Galaxy Note).

I've taken advantage of the bring your friends feature and just had my first deposit on the Visa Debit Card they issue. In the past two weeks I've ported my 2 son's phones and my wife's. After our time at Sprint they are ecstatic with the service.

So far so good.



tiger72
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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: I'll stick with Verizon

said by IowaCowboy:

I have no experience with MVNO carriers but I have heard of them coming and going like here today gone tomorrow one hit wonders in the music industry.

Considering MVNOs are month-to-month and are typically replaced by something *better* than the MVNO before it, I don't really get the big deal?

MVNOs ride on the exact same network. Typically the only difference is a general lack of customer service. When I figure that the only time I ever called the cell company was over billing disputes, then going to a prepaid model made perfect sense. No more billing issues means no more service calls for me. Bing-bang-boom. In Solavei's case, they ride on T-Mobile but actually have a superior roaming agreement for ATT than T-Mobile and other MVNOs offer.

Personally i'm not interested in Solavei's pyramid model. But no tier-1 carrier provides the same packages as the MVNOs do. Sure T-Mobile has a $50 tier, but it's 100MB of 3g. All of the other MVNOs offer 2GB of data for the same price-point. Simple Mobile offers 2GB on T-Mobile. Straight-Talk offers 2GB on TMO or ATT. Boost/Virgin are unlimited (but Sprint's network is crap now, so good luck hitting even 2GB in a month).

I'm glad to hear that Verizon works wonders for you. For others, paying $100 for the same effective service that costs $45 elsewhere isn't very attractive. For some of us, saving $1300 over 24 months means something.
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tiger72
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reply to tmc8080

Re: pricepoint

said by tmc8080:

$49, $50.. is not a market disrupting pricepoint.. and unlimited still has a limit ring to it when the carrier involved is tmobile.. who charges alot more for unlimited data.. upwards of $70+ on a smartphone plan last time I checked.

cingular offers this around the same price.. and are more aggressive in offering deals than a tmobile mvno.

got any examples?
There's quite a comprehensive thread at XDA on MVNOs which could use your insight on ATT mvno's with "more aggressive" offerings.
»forum.xda-developers.com/showthr···=1455014
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tiger72
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reply to fuziwuzi

Re: More aggressive pricing

said by fuziwuzi:

said by BiggA:

Same terrible T-Mobile coverage. T-Mobile and Sprint could be free, and they will wouldn't compete with AT&T and Verizon's networks.

There you go again, spewing the same crap that everyone has debunked again and again. I have to give you credit for being persistent... persistently wrong, nonetheless. Are you still mooching off your Mom?

BWAHAHAHAHA too true
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mustang0328

@verizon.net
reply to Lone Wolf

Re: SimpleMobile

Ive been a tmobile customer for 10 years and always liked there service. recently they tried to bully me into giveing them direct debit access to my bank account for payments even though i have a good payment history. I switched to simple mobile and i cant figure out why i didn't a while ago. It get the unlimited everything for much less then I was paying for half the service from tmobile. Only thing im going to miss is the wifi calling tmobile had.



Cabal
Premium
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reply to Network Guy

Re: Not Solavei, but SIMPLE Mobile

It won't stay that way. Simple Mobile is now owned by TracFone (America Movil).
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dragger
Premium
join:2002-06-19
Festus, MO

It's no longer 2005

I've been enjoying the new competition in the cellphone market, so I clicked on the link for Solavei. Down for Maintenance it says. Poor timing at best.

I had heard all the stories about T Mobile but then I started checking the latest comments on the net. Most people were having pretty good service.

They DO have a good, cheap BYOD plan, though it's only available on the internet and you can't be much of a chatterbox. You get 100 minutes of talk but text is unlimited as is data. The only kicker is that after 5 gig of data a month you get throttled. That hasn't been a problem at all since I would rather use my plasma than squint at a 4" screen on my phone.

So I paid $350 for a Galaxy Nexus, and Jelly Bean was pushed about a week after it got here. I pay $30 a month, or actually 28.50 if I use a third party refill card with a discount.

It's painless and cheap.


TuxRaiderPen

join:2009-09-19
reply to fuziwuzi

Re: More aggressive pricing

said by fuziwuzi:
There you go again, spewing the same crap that everyone has debunked again and again. I have to give you credit for being persistent... persistently wrong, nonetheless.
TMobile coverage and sproostgin coverage is HORRIBLE..

Tmobile should rename to TMetro.I would loose coverage on a route I travel daily for work for over an hour. Which VZW quite nicely covers very well. No need for an external antenna, amp, or foil...

This is most decidely a rural area, and if VZW and before the acquistion AllTel could cover it then so could the others... The towers were/are there, yeah the leases for space were probably not that great, but when your hurting for coveage you pay till you invest (oh theres a concept) in your own.. There won't been any NIMBY nazis in this area.

Sproostgin.. NOPE, not *natively*, the only coverage is via roaming on VZW and if your on the boost or virgin MVNO's NO COVERAGE, period till you get back to native sprint.

At least sproostgin's coverage map is more accurate then Tmobiles. And not trying to stretch it and hide the dead zones.. Tmobles is so dependendt on perfect conditions its pathetic... Real world phones from Tmobile and sproostgin don't work. VZW does. All in an area Tmobile is saying is "Satisfactory" only if your cheating with an external amp, antenna, on a spectrum analyzer, v. a phone with no real antenna, 1/2 the sensitivity, 1/3 the selectivity thats behind a body mass which just loves to absorb RF...

Same goes for sproostgin in a urban area.. their MVNO fails to cover an area that is not rural... major holes... sprint customers get coverage by...wait for it... VZW! mvno's suckers...

All you have to do is a look at coverage map for Tmobile and notice all the white areas v. their blessed magenta (or green in their online case) or sprint in many areas their *NATIVE* coverage is a joke, and were it not for roaming there would be no coverage, and compared to VZW who has native coverage there.

Tmobile and sproostgin MVNO's may work if you never ever stray from native coverage of the mother ship.. but for most thats not the case and will find out what a crock these 2 networks are...

You want coverage, you get VZW, period. You want 3rd rate coverage you get crApTT, you want 5th rate coverage take your pick from MetroPCS, sproostgin, Tmobile, cricket and any one else.

Cell phone coverage stating "coveraging 96% of the US..." yeah thats 96% of the population, thats WORTHLESS! If you covered 96% of the US you would have spend more in WV on cell sites alone than you spend on 5 states combined to get that level of coverage. Even VZW doesn't cover as much of WV as they should, but its better and has been for decades than any of the others.

Coverage costs, and yes VZW has made some crap moves in re data and some other items, but if I have a phone it better work when I need it or theres not reason to have it.. Tmobile and sproostgin fail that test.
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reply to dragger

Re: It's no longer 2005

said by dragger:

I've been enjoying the new competition in the cellphone market, so I clicked on the link for Solavei. Down for Maintenance it says. Poor timing at best.

The site is up now and with a little bit of Googling you'll find the poster that claimed how great the service is, actually is an employee.

"Solavei Mobile Service Powered by Relationships" is an MLM (Multi Level Marketing) scheme. The board of directors is loaded with employees of a company called Motricity that trades for $.54 on NASDAQ.

I think you're smart to stick with TMo because your plan sounds right for you.


fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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Atlanta, GA
reply to fuziwuzi

Re: More aggressive pricing

If you don't investigate coverage for YOUR needs before getting service, or utilize the 14-30 day return policies, then you don't deserve any sympathy. There are places where Verizon has no signal, would you still claim that people there should buy Verizon just because you get good service from them?

T-Mobile has given me excellent service for going on 9 years now. I travel a lot all over the US and have not had any issue with service, except in a very rural area where my parents live. But guess what, my brother using his AT&T iPhone also gets no service there. It is what it is. I'm not going to change my provider, which gives me great service 99.9999999% of the time simply because in one location that I visit for maybe 4 days every 2 or 3 years has no signal. Especially since I get unlimited anytime calling, unlimited text, and unlimited (truly unlimited) data for $60/month. And I have an unlocked phone that also works with foreign SIMs when I'm in China, Japan, Europe... even getting HSPA+ high-speed data in China.

So, it's great that you get good service with Verizon and you're happy with it. But, your experience doesn't mean everyone should get the same thing. I'm happy with my service with T-Mobile, it works exactly the way I want and need.
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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reply to TuxRaiderPen

said by TuxRaiderPen:

said by fuziwuzi:
There you go again, spewing the same crap that everyone has debunked again and again. I have to give you credit for being persistent... persistently wrong, nonetheless.
TMobile coverage and sproostgin coverage is HORRIBLE..

Tmobile should rename to TMetro.I would loose coverage on a route I travel daily for work for over an hour. Which VZW quite nicely covers very well. No need for an external antenna, amp, or foil...

This is most decidely a rural area, and if VZW and before the acquistion AllTel could cover it then so could the others... The towers were/are there, yeah the leases for space were probably not that great, but when your hurting for coveage you pay till you invest (oh theres a concept) in your own.. There won't been any NIMBY nazis in this area.

Sproostgin.. NOPE, not *natively*, the only coverage is via roaming on VZW and if your on the boost or virgin MVNO's NO COVERAGE, period till you get back to native sprint.

At least sproostgin's coverage map is more accurate then Tmobiles. And not trying to stretch it and hide the dead zones.. Tmobles is so dependendt on perfect conditions its pathetic... Real world phones from Tmobile and sproostgin don't work. VZW does. All in an area Tmobile is saying is "Satisfactory" only if your cheating with an external amp, antenna, on a spectrum analyzer, v. a phone with no real antenna, 1/2 the sensitivity, 1/3 the selectivity thats behind a body mass which just loves to absorb RF...

Same goes for sproostgin in a urban area.. their MVNO fails to cover an area that is not rural... major holes... sprint customers get coverage by...wait for it... VZW! mvno's suckers...

All you have to do is a look at coverage map for Tmobile and notice all the white areas v. their blessed magenta (or green in their online case) or sprint in many areas their *NATIVE* coverage is a joke, and were it not for roaming there would be no coverage, and compared to VZW who has native coverage there.

Tmobile and sproostgin MVNO's may work if you never ever stray from native coverage of the mother ship.. but for most thats not the case and will find out what a crock these 2 networks are...

You want coverage, you get VZW, period. You want 3rd rate coverage you get crApTT, you want 5th rate coverage take your pick from MetroPCS, sproostgin, Tmobile, cricket and any one else.

Cell phone coverage stating "coveraging 96% of the US..." yeah thats 96% of the population, thats WORTHLESS! If you covered 96% of the US you would have spend more in WV on cell sites alone than you spend on 5 states combined to get that level of coverage. Even VZW doesn't cover as much of WV as they should, but its better and has been for decades than any of the others.

Coverage costs, and yes VZW has made some crap moves in re data and some other items, but if I have a phone it better work when I need it or theres not reason to have it.. Tmobile and sproostgin fail that test.

YMMV. Verizon is shit in the middle of my city. Dropped calls. reception crap. Garbled voices.

ATT, TMO, and Sprint are all better (although my ATT line drops calls, it's still better than VZW here, lulz).

To play off your words, this is most decidely an urban area, and if TMO, ATT, and Sprint can cover it then so could VZW... The towers were/are there, yeah the leases for space were probably not that great, but when your hurting for coveage you pay till you invest (oh theres a concept) in your own.. There aren't been any NIMBY nazis in this area.

Again. YMMV. Not sure why people rag on TMO so much. So it doesn't work for you? Whoop-de-fkin-doo. They don't force you to use their network. From your hatred, you make it sound like they raped your mother, buried her in a ditch, then raped her again.

VZW doesn't work for me. And FOR ME, ATT still drops calls, Sprint's data is slow, and T-Mobile's the only reliable service for my personal needs. Y.M.M.V.
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"What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning."
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