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Comments on news posted 2012-10-09 12:36:49: An insider at Charter Communications tells Broadband Reports that the company will soon start charging a $200 "activation fee" for the company's 100 Mbps tier. ..

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88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to cork1958

Re: $100 install fee back in time

said by cork1958:

I think it was the year 1997, I had to pay a $100 installation fee for their original 256/128 plan! 3 days later, they dropped that fee!

I just can't believe some of these insane things Charter is pulling off!!

Yeah like lowering prices and adding tons of HD. Man they are fucking rip off artists!

watts3000

join:2002-01-21
reply to google2

Re: No problem

This is nonsense I'm on a 100 meg now I own my modem and I pay around 82.00 a month with wire maintenance.


grayem

join:2000-09-22
Saint Louis, MO
Reviews:
·Charter

modem fee

New customers must use Charter modems, and there is a modem fee; its just included in the price. There are no promo prices for Internet only... in effect the prices have been raised to cover the modem cost by forcing customers into the 30 Mbps tier at full price. Charter is not giving anyone anything for free. Not that they should, but the CEO is not paying for the modems out of his personal bank account, the customer is.



AVD
Respice, Adspice, Prospice
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1
reply to Bhruic

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

said by Bhruic:

Is "you can afford to pay it" the metric that we are now using to determine if something is priced fairly?

just half of the supply and demand equation that sets prices in a capitalist market.
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--Standard disclaimers apply.--


neumannu47
Premium
join:2002-08-14
USA

I'd pay the activation fee

I'd pay $2000 activation fee for 100 Mb. Since I'm on Time Warner, I doubt I'll see speeds like that in my lifetime.

Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Netflix need to team up to provide 1Gb symmetrical service nationwide and render the TV cable companies to irrelevance.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
reply to limegrass69

Re: Cheap

But CV's $300 install tier is $100 per month instead of $110, and upload speeds are 15 Mbps instead of 5 Mbps.

So you break even after 10 months and get much higher upload speeds on CV. I'd take that over Charter's tier any day.

The corollary to this is that I'd stay on the 30/4 tier if I was in Charter-land, despite the fact that I've been known to pay $115 per month for 'net service (Comcast 50/15).


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to 88615298

Re: No problem

How do you figure?

Expand your moderator at work

Bhruic

join:2002-11-27
Toronto, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to 88615298

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

You've rather missed the point. If all the people paying $110/mth now could afford to pay $1000/mth, would that justify Charter in making the price increase? The issue isn't what people can afford to pay, it's what people are willing to pay.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to 88615298

Re: $100 install fee back in time

$50 is lower than $29? I know, I know, 120x the download speed, but prices have crept upward.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to grayem

Re: modem fee

The flip side of this is that $50 per month is less than TWC charges off-promo for Standard service in many areas, and that's before TWC's modem rental charge. The 30/4 tier is actually a decent deal all told, comparing with TWC and Comcast.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000
reply to 88615298

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

You seem to have forgotten that people are entitled to 100Mbps and therefore the $200 activation fee is just a money grab by Charter.

root@battleop# killall -HUP sarcasm
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I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.


UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY
reply to limegrass69

Re: Cheap

said by limegrass69:

Well, that's cheap compared to the $300 activation fee charged by Cablevision for a similar tier of service (Ultra)!

Rutledge is following what he helped implement at Cablevision prior to him leaving, but figures in Charter areas $200 is enough to slow demand for the tier.

Telco

join:2008-12-19
reply to neumannu47

Re: I'd pay the activation fee

100% agree. It's the only way anyone can break this cable stronghold on America.


Telco

join:2008-12-19
reply to cork1958

Re: $100 install fee back in time

256/128? is that a joke...

A cable company actually launched those speeds?


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to 88615298

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

Well, kind of if after you buy the 250K Lamborghini it costs you $100K/month to maintain it.


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to iansltx

Re: No problem

Probably because Charter is going to start channel bonding on the upstream side to provide faster speeds. 5Mbps upstream smells like a single channel.


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to Telco

Re: $100 install fee back in time

I never had 256/128. I've been with Charter since July 2000 and I started with 512/128. At that time I believe they also offered a 1.5/256 plan but it was significantly more than I wanted to spend and a whole lot more than DSL prices of that time. They might have offered a lower tier but I don't recall.

(The only reason I remember how long I've had Charter is because shortly after they offered HSI, I joined this site.)


big_e

join:2011-03-05
reply to Bhruic

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

As long as it benefits a corporation, or the wealthy the answer is yes. But when it comes to taxes, or anything that will benefit the poor or middle class the answer is no.



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to rradina

So someone paying $1320 a year for 100 Mbps internet can surely afford a ONE TIME $200 fee.



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

1 recommendation

reply to Bhruic

said by Bhruic:

You've rather missed the point. If all the people paying $110/mth now could afford to pay $1000/mth, would that justify Charter in making the price increase? The issue isn't what people can afford to pay, it's what people are willing to pay.

No YOU miss the point.

A) Things are priced based on what people are willing to pay.

B) Charter doesn't have to justify it's costs. Not to you or anyone else. Charter could charge $1000 for installation. Guess what, no one would get that tier then and then Charter will adjust pricing accordingly.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to iansltx

Re: No problem

said by iansltx:

How do you figure?

As of December Charter is no longer obligated to provide analog TV. Once they switch to all digital they will have more bandwidth. Bandwidth they can use for upstreaming channel bonding.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to iansltx

Re: $100 install fee back in time

said by iansltx:

$50 is lower than $29? I know, I know, 120x the download speed, but prices have crept upward.

Where do you get $29.

Old pricing for 30 Mbps

Own modem $58 a month
Rented modem $65 a month

New 30 Mbps pricing INCLUDES modem $50. So you save either $8 or $15.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to Telco

Back in 2001 we had 128 kbps/128 kbps from Charter for $20 a month. Which I though was awesome compared to old dial-up at $22 a month.



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to grayem

Re: modem fee

said by grayem:

New customers must use Charter modems, and there is a modem fee; its just included in the price.

No it's not. If so they REALLY lowered the price of internet. Old 30 Mbps pricing with modem rental was $65 now it's $50. So if the modem fee is "hidden" in the price then Charter lowered the internet pricing by 26%.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to 88615298

Re: $100 install fee back in time

I was talking about 256/128 service


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·ooma
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

too much..

There is no justification for a plain old docsis 3 installation at any speed it supports currently (upwards of 300mbits down). What might be worth paying more for is a symmetric 100+ megabit tier with QOS and a conditioned line. AFAIK, NO cable company using docsis technology offers symmetric tiers..


mj3431

join:2003-04-21
STL, MO
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to 88615298

Re: If you can afford the 100 Mbps tier

You're assuming that everyone is getting the service at the standard rate. I'm currently getting 100M for $60/mo as part of my bundle. When the promotion ends I'll surely go back to 30 instead of paying nearly double just to keep this package.

This way they'll be able to charge the $200 "activation fee" to discourage people like me from taking advantage of great pricing in the future. Funny thing is Charter called me and offered me this spectacular deal, which I verified here on the direct forum before proceeding back in March.


grayem

join:2000-09-22
Saint Louis, MO
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to 88615298

Re: modem fee

[rant]
We've had this stupid argument before, you refuse to acknowledge the concept of de-facto, I insist that my bill is going up significantly for the first time in years. Despite what Charter states is the list price you continue to say my bill is getting cheaper.

Lets examine the concept of de-facto:

I own a used car, and a new law is passed in my state suddenly ruling that I can only buy a new car. The price of this new car is reduced to twice the price of a used car and 1/3rd the sticker price of the regular new car price. In the end it would cost ME more money. In this case BF69 would say that I am saving money because I suddenly get to pay for a new car at a lower price, even though I would never buy a new car without this new law.

Starting in 3 months my bill will go up to 47.50 or so from 29.99 for 15Mbps (the used car) Or I can pay extra for the new higher speed which I could care less about. (30Mbps = the new car in my analogy).

This costs me more money and I will have to use a modem from charter even though I already bought one that works great. (I am out more money here)
.
Every promo in the past was extendable or renewable or whatever and therefore the defacto price was never full price. Many businesses do this and say the regular price is higher than the sale price, but never sell the item at full price. Its a gimick and here is an example: Harbor Freight has had a sale on large tool boxes since they began selling them. The "regular" price is $200+ more than the perpetual sale price.

That's how the concept of de-facto works, and that is something you are welcome to ignore. Keep waiving the "I love Charter" flag and I will keep bitching about the new minimum speed. I am especially sad that the elimination of the 3Mbps tier is gone and how it disenfranchises low income residents that are being further pushed away in the digital divide.
[/rant]



jeffro

join:2007-04-20
Bay City, MI

Uh no.

$200 just to provision a damn modem? No way. That's nuts. It isn't like Comcasts new service that needs to run fiber. Its simply someone clicking something on a computer screen.