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Comments on news posted 2012-10-18 12:48:17: AT&T has started to publicly complain about Sprint's acquisition by SoftBank and Sprint's now controlling stake in Clearwire -- which will likely end in an acquisition. ..

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rrm

@tresourcegroup.com

ha ha@att

ha ha... damn att



WiFiguru
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Did...

Did AT&T forget that Verizon Wireless is 45% owned by Vodafone? Sounds like AT&T wants to eventually acquire Sprint when they start to crumble.


CSD8086

join:2004-03-12
US

Wasn't the old AT&T Wireless partially owned by NTT DoCoMo? Selective amnesia...


wingrider01

join:2006-07-25
Saint Louis, MO
reply to WiFiguru

ATT "whining" what about those other carriers that starting yelling when at wanted to buy t-mobile? Woult the author of this consider that "whining" also? They bith are doing the same thing so it should be



battleop

join:2005-09-28
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I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.
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mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

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said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Sure they can cry, but they're full of BS. ATT buying T-Mobile would have eliminated a competitor. The Japanese buying Sprint actually stregthens one. Big difference there.

SunnyD

join:2009-03-20
Madison, AL

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

That is all.


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

any day now..

so, in 6 months we're gonna see cheaper wireless rates?
believe that one and I've got a bridge to sell you..



FFH
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reply to battleop

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch. Sprint went to town on AT&T and made an enemy. Now AT&T is returning the favor. And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.
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vpoko
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reply to battleop

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to mogamer

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.


Network Guy
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reply to tmc8080

Re: any day now..

There are cheaper wireless rates already. Check SIMPLE Mobile, Straight Talk, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile, Cricket, and several others I'm sure I left out.

Now if you're looking to pay subsidy pricing for your handset AND get a $30 all-you-can-eat plan, you're sort of wishing to have your cake and eat it too.


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to FFH

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

said by FFH:

And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

I disagree. Huawei are Chinese known for many counterfeits. Japanese are an old good known trading partner known for some quality brands like Sony or Sharp.


FFH
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reply to vpoko

said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

It may. And this could be the group that kills it because Softbank is a foreign company that would own 70% of Sprint - just like it killed Huawei. And telecom is considered a national security industry.:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···-US.aspx

CFIUS is an inter-agency committee authorized to review transactions that could result in control of a U.S. business by a foreign person (“covered transactions”), in order to determine the effect of such transactions on the national security of the United States.

Who are on CFIUS committee:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···ers.aspx
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Telco

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reply to rrm

Re: ha ha@att

Not to mention, it's not their fault that no American carrier is smart enough to expand abroad.

Most of our monopolies fail to grasp that 95% of the World's population lives 'outside' America.

Then again, AT&T is a Texan company, which by nature is oblivious to anything outside that state.



SteelerRaw

@timet.com
reply to FFH

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Highly doubtful. The United States' relationship with Japan is significantly better than their relationship with China. Simply put, SoftBank is no Huawei.


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch.

Ahh sweet revenge. Before you embark upon journey of revenge, dig two graves. What would u do if your former "friend" of yours, leveraged against you using his father as a free lawyer to shut you up. Well there is a way to payback without involving them at all.


myosh

join:2001-05-03
Cupertino, CA
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

It may. And this could be the group that kills it because Softbank is a foreign company that would own 70% of Sprint - just like it killed Huawei. And telecom is considered a national security industry.:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···-US.aspx

Huawei is Chinese-owned. SoftBank is Japanese. Big difference since the US is on good relations with Japan. China... not so much.


myosh

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reply to chgo_man99

said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

But what mogamer said is true. AT&T wanted to eliminate a competitor in the U.S. market in buying T-Mobile. SoftBank does not operate in the U.S. so it's investment doesn't eliminate a competitor but instead is strengthening Sprint. While I understand why AT&T doesn't like it, as consumers we should be loving this deal.

Ripperjack

join:2012-01-12
Fredericksburg, TX
reply to Network Guy

Re: any day now..

said by Network Guy:

you're sort of wishing to have your cake and eat it too.

What's the point of having cake, if you can't eat it?


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reply to wingrider01

Re: Did...

said by wingrider01:

ATT "whining" what about those other carriers that starting yelling when at wanted to buy t-mobile? Woult the author of this consider that "whining" also? They bith are doing the same thing so it should be

Yeah, but the other carriers had good reason to "whine". AT&T acquiring T-Mobile would eliminate competition in the United States Wireless market. This Sprint/Softbank deal will grow competition within the US Wireless market.


Mizzat
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Not unlike Sprint

Gotta laugh as Sprint complains about everything every other competitor does.



Mike
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Looking at Softbank's site

Click for full size
I was looking up Softbank's Japanese plans to see what they offer and what they're about.

I noticed this. Anyone else have a minor case of dyslexia too?
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to myosh

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

true, but it still does not make att BS because it sought to eliminate competitor. Thats what business is about. Though of course, the deal att sought was unfair for us as customers.


firedrakes

join:2009-01-29
Arcadia, FL
reply to rrm

Re: ha ha@att

funny



footballdude
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reply to Telco

said by Telco:

Most of our monopolies fail to grasp that 95% of the World's population lives 'outside' America.

95% of the world's population can't afford $150 a month for phone service.
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rblizz

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reply to chgo_man99

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

Oh, they're free to whine, but there's no law against a competitor getting stronger -- and they know it. There are, however, anti-trust laws that keep one competitor from eliminating a viable competitor.

AT&T's attempt at FUD here will most likely be unsuccessful as it is obviously transparent and self-serving.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to wingrider01

Re: Did...

You missed a key point, neighbor. The T-Mobile situation was a takeover. The Sprint situation is a change in majority ownership.

One is like Wal-Mart buying Target vs. Samsung buying a majority stake in Target. Samsung is huge but as far as I know, they don't have a retail organization in the US. A Samsung acquisition of Target doesn't affect consumer choice even if they eventually rename it to Tarsung or Samget.


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to chgo_man99

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

True. ATT has been BS a long time.


mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
reply to chgo_man99

said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

Their press release was full of bs.